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Why wouldn't we? At least under the current Marcos administration they are asking nicely and the SCS is a vital waterway for international commerce.

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What does the next president have to say about this?

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RedemptionToday 04:15 pm JST

What does the next president have to say about this?

Biden and Harris are quite clear on their support for the Philippines :P

7 ( +15 / -8 )

Good. China be steaming...

-13 ( +4 / -17 )

Why would the U.S. defend Philippines?

1) Because defending a law-abiding nation from authoritarian aggression is the right thing to do

2) Because the US is treaty-bound to

3) Because China is breaking international law

4) Because it makes strategic sense not to cede territory, or political influence, to an aggressive, revisionist China. This will only embolden it further

5) Because it makes economic sense not to allow China to control vital sea routes

How many reasons do you need?

15 ( +21 / -6 )

Defend the Philippines?

If the Philippines is attacked it would be because of the US and its bases lol

-12 ( +7 / -19 )

There were no US bases the previous administration and instead of attacking, China poured aid and investments into the country.

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what are you saying? Recently they told everyone about democracy. And now they suddenly started talking about personal interests, important trade routes, etc. that it was suddenly changed on the contrary.

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Isabelle, can I borrow your rose coloured glasses ?

The USA has a long and sad history of propping up dictators all over the world.

From the Shah of Iran, to the many Latin American dictatorships and everywhere in between.

Self interests of the ruling class decides US foreign policy , I'm afraid.

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GuruMickToday 07:07 pm JST

Isabelle, can I borrow your rose coloured glasses ?

The USA has a long and sad history of propping up dictators all over the world.

The USA's past actions have no bearing on China's current illegality and aggression.

What China is doing to the Philippines is wrong: it's as simple as that. You can dispute that if you want, but it's as clear as day to me.

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Who would defend the U.S. if it's attacked??

NO ONE,

America take care of your own FIRST.

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Beijing argues it has "historic rights" to the South China Sea, based largely on Chinese maps dating back to the 1940s that show a U-shaped dashed line that approaches the coasts of other countries.

Holy crep - do they hear themselves talking?! "Historic" rights........................... from the 40s?! That's not even as old as my grandma! Lol

That's some "historic" history right there, not!

To start with, the Nine-Dash Line was just a made-up line, made by someone in China after WW2. Before that, it never even existed - and ever since, there's still no legal or historical reference basis to it. To use a ridiculous line made up by someone (who nobody even knows up to this day!) as a national policy is a clown move

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Because it thrives on war

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There were no US bases the previous administration and instead of attacking, China poured aid and investments into the country.

Yeah right!!!!

Over a 32-kilometer stretch north of Manila where a Chinese state company is building a US$503 million railway to boost transport links to the Philippine capital, the impact of Chinese aid money on development in the poor South-east Asian country is easy to miss. There is hardly any.

https://www.realityofaid.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ROA-SSDC-Special-Report8.pdf

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The Philippines have no strategic value to the US ,just like Japan

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

And, the winner of the most misinformed comment of the year goes to...

The Philippines have no strategic value to the US ,just like Japan

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And, the winner of the most misinformed comment of the year goes to...

The Philippines have no strategic value to the US ,just like Japan

It is pretty bad.

I think you may have won it one year for calling Taro Aso the envy of western democracies though ;).

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Who would defend the U.S. if it's attacked??

NO ONE,

While NATO represents 31 allies to the United States, there are many other allies stretching from the Middle East to the Indo-Pacific. Each ally, is important to U.S. defense.

America take care of your own FIRST.

When standing together with allies, everyone is "your own". Something authoritarians dont get and will not replicate.

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ianApr. 12 05:37 pm JST

Defend the Philippines?

If the Philippines is attacked it would be because of the US and its bases lol

A criminal attack is still a criminal attack.

There were no US bases the previous administration and instead of attacking, China poured aid and investments into the country.

Yes there have been futile attempts by Xi to cover up the damage his belligerence causes.

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GuruMickApr. 12 07:07 pm JST

Isabelle, can I borrow your rose coloured glasses ?

The USA has a long and sad history of propping up dictators all over the world.

From the Shah of Iran, to the many Latin American dictatorships and everywhere in between.

Self interests of the ruling class decides US foreign policy , I'm afraid.

We've also removed a lot of disgusting communists who would still be in power if not for us.

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The USA has a long and sad history of propping up dictators all over the world.

From the Shah of Iran, to the many Latin American dictatorships and everywhere in between.

Self interests of the ruling class decides US foreign policy , I'm afraid.

Like it or not it's THE WHOLE TRUTH !!!..

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Good. China be steaming..

No, a dog barking doesn't scare a lion.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Every power has a limited time..

Russia, which is more than twice the age of the United States, definitely has very limited time remaining. Putin will get his wish in being the last ruler of Russia before it ceases to exist. Then the world will be better off. Then Kamchatka can be returned to Japan, it's historical owner.

By chance, did you know that in 1920 Lenin sought to provoke a war between the United States and Japan by offering a 60-year lease of Kamchatka to American capitalists to exploit? Ultimately, the USA foolishly rejected the offer. When WWII happened, the USA would have been given permanent ownership of Japan through its saving of Russia from annihilation, as historically happened, but then the USA would have handed Kamchatka back to Japan because the USA has never been as greedy as Putin.

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History give me the reason..

Every power has a limited time..

China is thousands of years old - its time as the "Middle Kingdom" at the center of the world has passed centuries ago

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The U.S. has no territorial claim over the waters or features, but regularly conducts patrols there.

lol.

Marcos dramatically changed course when he took office, publicly standing up to Chinese actions in the waterway and giving the United States access to more Philippine military bases.

Duterte said in April 2024, the Philippines fought hard to take back strategic sovereignty from USA in 1999 but Marcos leads the country back to become again a US vassal by creating tension/conflicts in SCS.

The Philippines will either be a U.S. or a Chinese vassal or pro U.S. or pro China. That is the fate of countries like Japan and the Philippines.

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quercetumToday 06:19 am JST

The U.S. has no territorial claim over the waters or features, but regularly conducts patrols there.

lol.

Nothing surprising about that as it is China's illegal actions that necessitate US patrols.

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"Disgusting communists " comment shows a shallowness of thought.

People organising trade unions in latino agricultural nations probably never read Marx....but got wacked anyway....as did an Arch Bishop

Google "the disappeared " in most Central American nations.

Google Argentina and Chile military juntas.

Nasty business

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GuruMickToday 06:30 am JST

"Disgusting communists " comment shows a shallowness of thought.

Communists ever give up power from native movements or allow democracy? QED

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Maybe stop labelling " communists " and think that this is a label inaccurately applied to shut discussion and smear.

Communists are not some fog like entity that emerges over a nation installing an ideology.

And people in many Latin nations elected "leftist" Governments, only to have US backed military coups overthrow them.

I know...I travelled extensively in Latin America at the time of military dictatorships....in Chile, Peru, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil etc.

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GuruMickToday 06:52 am JST

And people in many Latin nations elected "leftist" Governments, only to have US backed military coups overthrow them.

I know...I travelled extensively in Latin America at the time of military dictatorships....in Chile, Peru, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil etc.

And thankfully none of those countries is cursed like Cuba is. Was it the result of the US? We can only conjecture.

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I see many US citizens travelling to Cuba for medical attention.

Cuba, a small nation that ousted US mafia control, has been subject to US led trade sanctions for decades.

Bully boy tactics...

AND...you''ve never been to Cuba have you ?

SO the basis of your assumption is....baseless.

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And US involvement is not "conjecture " when documents on policy are made public after a number of years.

I see I'm wasting breath here.

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GuruMickToday 07:25 am JST

I see many US citizens travelling to Cuba for medical attention.

Cuba, a small nation that ousted US mafia control, has been subject to US led trade sanctions for decades.

Bully boy tactics...

AND...you''ve never been to Cuba have you ?

SO the basis of your assumption is....baseless.

I know they have trouble keeping the lights on, and not just because of a transformer malfunction. If they need US trade to survive, they should be thinking about how they can remove their dictator. The US is under no obligation to trade with anyone, particularly countries with no property rights.

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Kinda a dodgy situation as sometimes the Philippines leaders will flip-flop between USA or China

Basically doing whatever to get ahead

Will be interesting if Trump does become president what the China relationship will be

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Mr GoodmanToday 12:30 pm JST

Will be interesting if Trump does become president what the China relationship will be

We already know Trump is in the bag for China with the TikTok situation.

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