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Jacqueline Avant, wife of 'Godfather of Black music,' killed in home invasion

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More of the glorious benefits of the 2nd Amendment and NRA. Thank you very much.

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More of the glorious benefits of the 2nd Amendment and NRA. Thank you very much.

I see, let’s make excuses for a thug that decided to from what we know so far wanted to burglarize this family. No one told this guy to do what he did. The NRA and 2nd amendment have nothing to do with this.

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Jacqueline Avant died after being shot by a burglar, who also opened fire on a security guard, according to tabloid website TMZ.

Another tragedy,

Some far leftists might blame the gun and not the criminal though.

Desert TortoiseToday  08:08 am JST

More of the glorious benefits of the 2nd Amendment and NRA. Thank you very much.

I'm guessing the criminal was not a card carrying NRA member, although the criminal who drove his car into a crowd of people in a parade had a drivers license.

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RIP. Sounds like she was a great lady. This article doesn't mention it but in a statement from the families:

"Jacqueline was an amazing woman, wife, mother, philanthropist, and a 55 year resident of Beverly Hills, who has made an immeasurable positive contribution and impact on the arts community. She will be missed by her family, friends and all of the people she has helped throughout her amazing life.”

the security guard needs to be fired. Or investigated.

If only she'd been exercising her Second Amendment right to bear arms, perhaps she could have defended herself.

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Yeah right! Weakest comment of the day for sure.

the Second Amendment DOESN'T give people the right to keep and bear arms in defence of their lives and property?

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It was once said American sidewalks were paved with gold. These days they are paved with guns.

Utter nonsense

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"Police units arrived and discovered a victim with a gunshot wound," a press release said. "The suspect(s) were no longer on the scene. Beverly Hills Fire Department paramedics transported the victim to a local hospital. Unfortunately, the victim did not survive.

Kudos to the police who try to contain crimes such as these.

zichiToday  08:53 am JST

Another day, another shooting, just another sad American figure to add to this year’s gun homicide.

It was once said American sidewalks were paved with gold. These days they are paved with guns.

Non-US citizens have difficulty understanding the reality of living in the US and have an irrational fear of guns, while overlooking more dangerous elements of society.

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tell that to the family and friends of the gun homicide victims.

Don’t even start to generalize that victims of gun homicides are anti-gun, don’t even go there unless you have proof.

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cracaphat,

Yeah right! Weakest comment of the day for sure.

the Second Amendment DOESN'T give people the right to keep and bear arms in defence of their lives and property?

Weak comment yet no rebuttal. curious.

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Detailing the two leading causes of the number of easily accessible firearms in the US is not making excuses for anything;

Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with the people that were killed. Take the gun component out of it. They could have easily broken in an stabbed the woman to death, that’s another possible scenario. Remember Charles Manson and what his followers did? You’re making the usual weak gun arguments to bolster your weak argumentative points.

it’s offering a highly likely to be valid reason why these “thugs” had firearms in the first place.

Nice try as usual. Blame the gun, not the person wielding the weapon.

The original poster wasn’t generalizing that victims of firearm homicides are anti-gun. That’s not even a logical inference from the post.

I disagree.

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Again, it has absolutely nothing to do with the people that were killed. Take the gun component out of it. They could have easily broken in an stabbed the woman to death

Bass is correct. America doesn't have a gun problem. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. America doesn't have a gun problem it has a murderer problem. They are a particularly murderous people, who just happen to have open access to the tool that they can easier enact their murderous desires with. But the guns are just a tool, the real problem is that the American psyche has romanticized murder in their media, and given them the tools to see out their fantasies.

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BigYen,

But there’s nothing wrong with American gun laws.

California has the strongest gun laws in the US. As well as the federal baseline, they have:

Universal background checks

Extreme risk protection orders

Domestic violence gun laws

Assault weapon and magazine restrictions

Waiting periods

Strong concealed carry law

Minimum age laws

Open carry regulations

Safe storage laws

Community violence intervention funding

Lost & stolen firearm reporting

Ghost gun ban

Gun dealer regulation

Local authority to regulate firearms

State firearm sale records retention

Gun violence research funding

i'd genuinely like to know what other laws they can have. and please don't talk about guns coming in from other states because carrying ANY firearm (and ammo) purchased out of state into California, through private sales OR licensed dealers, is illegal.

www.californiacarry.org/out-of-state-purchases.html

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Never heard of this ‘online media’ referencing KABC before today but it’s indicated may be the gun owner’s mishandling of her own firearm during the break-in? - Posted 5 hrs ago:

https://olxpraca.com/clarence-avants-wife-jacqueline-avant-shot-herself-during-a-home-invasion-in-beverly-hills/

“*Clarence Avant’s wife, Jacqueline Avant, shot herself during a home invasion in Beverly Hills” **- *

Ghulam December 2, 2021 Beverly Hills, California. “According to a source close to the family, the wife of a famous music artist was killed in a robbery on a house in Beverly Hills on Tuesday night.Jacqueline Avant was fatally injured in the incident, which was reported to the Beverly Hills Police Department shortly before 2:30 am. Officers arrived at a house on the 1100th block in Mightor Place to find a victim suffering from a gunshot wound.

Authorities said she was taken to hospital where she was pronounced dead.

Avant, affectionately called “Jackie”, has been well known and respected for her philanthropy over the years.

Her husband, Clarence Avant, was recently inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was also the hero of the 2019 Netflix documentary The Black Godfather, which highlighted his influence in the music industry.

AIR7 HD news video showed a broken sliding glass door in an Avant home. Local residents expressed regret and concern at the fatal burglary.

“It was terrible. There is something else every night. Someone needs to speak, ”said neighbor Rebecca Cohen. “It’s just awful, it breaks our hearts. They are a great family. “No one was detained in connection with the crime, and there was no description of the suspect or suspects.

“I am heartbroken by today’s morning news of this tragic and shocking murder,” Rep. Karen Bass said in a statement. “Mrs. Avant has been a force of compassion and empowerment at local and national levels for decades, and has served as a model for helping those who need it most.”

Beverly Hills police officials are expected to provide more details on the investigation at an afternoon press conference on Wednesday.” - 2021 KABC Television, LLC

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Some LA media (not TMZ) have reported: “Clarence Avant’s wife, Jacqueline Avant, shot herself during a home invasion in Beverly Hills” -

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- “Jacqueline Avant was fatally injured in the incident, which was reported to the Beverly Hills Police Department shortly before 2:30 am. Officers arrived at a house on the 1100th block in Mightor Place to find a victim suffering from a gunshot wound.” -

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i'd genuinely like to know what other laws they can have.

California has unsecured borders with each of the neighboring states.

If you want to look at whether or not gun laws are effective, the neighbor to the north is a better comparison, as people can't just bring guns over the border unchecked like in California. Especially since the gun laws in California are exceptionally weak when compared to gun laws in Canada.

Nowhere in the US is a checkpoint for the effectiveness of gun laws, as the gun laws in every state of the country are weak. The only way they can look strong is in comparison to other states, as they are clearly weak when compared to any other first-world nation.

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snowymountainhell,

Wow. if it turns out to be true I will rethink my comment from 08:22

If only she'd been exercising her Second Amendment right to bear arms, perhaps she could have defended herself.

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There are millions of families of victims of gun homicides who are anti-guns.

And millions that are pro-gun, if they weren’t it would be a lot easier for Democrats to take them but knowing that a large block of their very own constituents are gun owners, they are not about to alienate them.

Then it would not be a gun homicide. You can "whatabout" all day long

You can blame the guns all you want as well and this is why no one is listening to the media because at the end of the day they could care less about these people, they ONLY care about is confiscating all guns and that’s just pure fantasy.

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California has unsecured borders with each of the neighboring states.

so, secure the borders between California and the rest of the United States? Secession?as I said, transfer of any firearm into California is already illegal.

Especially since the gun laws in California are exceptionally weak when compared to gun laws in Canada.

How so?

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?? - These photos show a significant amount of glass and a curtain cast ‘outward’ on to a mat ‘outside’ the home, onto the patio:

https://www.tmz.com/2021/12/01/clarence-jackie-avant-shot-killed-home-invasion-robbery/ -

From the AFP article above:

- “TMZ said at least one burglar had got inside the luxury home before opening fire.

It published a picture showing broken glass of a sliding door at the spacious compound.” -

Could be a point of ‘exit’, rather than ‘entry? - Still, there doesn’t appear to be any ‘visible’ shoe prints in all that glass. - (Just sayin’ ; )

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BigYenToday  12:06 pm JST

You can list all the gun laws and restrictions you want, the death tolls from guns speak for themselves. Your nation is awash with guns. You worship guns.

The death tolls related to guns, which are less than those automobile related (BAN CARS!), are generally caused by criminals.

Is there a country without criminals?

Anyway, as the US is the most worshiped nation, guns are not going away, and the left needs to recognize the problems with crimes, as opposed to guns, knives, and awls.

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BigYen,

you didn't answer my question. why do I seldom get a straight answer? come on. what more gun laws can California make?

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zichiToday  12:20 pm JST

The majority of American households do not own a firearm. 70% of households do not own a firearm. More Republicans (41%) than Democrats (18%) own firearms.

Do you also play Ring-a-Ring-Roses?

Thanks for the stats rainman. More guns are owned in the US than automotive vehicles yet more deaths are motor vehicle related.

Go dig up some more stats.

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Americans treat each other with such disdain and are so untrustworthy towards each other they need guns to protect themselves from other Americans.

While the US has things to laud and applaud, the way it treats itself is not one of them. Their gun laws are centuries out of date and will be their ultimate downfall. They dont need to worry about China or Russia, when they kill more of their own people each year than most wars have done.

Not a good example to the world on this issue.

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The majority of American households do not own a firearm.

You checked?

70% of households do not own a firearm. More Republicans (41%) than Democrats (18%) own firearms.

Yes, and Democrat leaders are not going to do anything about confiscating guns, Beto O’Rourke is campaigning on wanting to take firearms away from people, this guy will never be elected to anything even remotely close, he just killed his chances just by saying that garbage, you have a lot of liberals that own guns and if Democrats want to get elected to anything ever again, they need to stop waging jihad against law abiding gun owners, because it’s never going to happen.

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