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Under the WhistleBlower Act it is illegal to attack the WhistleBlower and he is entitled to 10-20% of all assets recovered. When you look at all the fraud being committed here one can easily assume that WikiLeaks will be around for a long time and suing many entities for a long time. -Plus you have all the globalist money like Soros behind Wikileaks (attack Hillary, make Obama look good).

Mostly globalist factions fighting amongst themselves.

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they say, the devil(china) u know is better than the devil(USA) u dont know.

From now,I will choose communism over democracy. Wikileaks will prevail.

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communism over democracy. Wikileaks will prevail

There's a paradox for you!

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In the long run, Wikileaks will cause more damage than benefits with the publication of the cables: expect some sort of official internationa joint-action that will affect the wat we use the internet. IMO, the publication was just like reading out loud personal letters relatives write one another. What's the use?

Democracy can not mean embarassment.

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correcting "international joint-action that will affect the way we use the internet"

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lostinnagoya

so democracy means secrecy?democracy means the breach of international procedure by Hillary?

Those documents are not personal letters.They are government docs which means the public has the right to it.

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Speaking to a joint session of Congress on January 18, 1918 as to the principles of peace for the end of World War I, President Woodrow Wilson stated as the very first point of his Fourteen Points: “Open covenants of peace, openly arrived at, after which there shall be no private international understandings of any kind but diplomacy shall proceed always frankly and in the public view.” He was obliged in part to do this because the rush to war in 1914 had been secured by secret alliances, published by the new communist government of Russia by the time of Wilson’s speech, against Germany by “democratic” France and Britain with the Russian Tsarist dictatorship, agreements which would have been widely opposed by the working class in the period before the spark of war was ignited.

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Not everything civil servants do is insidious and conspiratorial. I for one would not want my private and/or business correspondence posted on this site. How many people are ready to say they could stand up to the entire cyberworld's scrutiny? Assange is an egotistical, self-righteous twit who I predict will come to an ignominious end in the not too distant future.

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Beelzebub

Inter governmental cables is not private or a business correspondence.

Read the service he did to the Kenyans and u will know he is not an anarchist.

He is doing US a service by stretching the frontiers of democracy.

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Can't believe anyone would compare government docs to personal things. I am all for personal privacy, and even government secrecy under certain conditions, but open government obviously must take precedent. Just making any old doc classified, presumably because its embarrassing, simply won't do.

Would some of you please stop grabbing your ankles so quickly?

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I for one would not want my private and/or business correspondence posted on this site

Does your correspondence concern power plays resulting in mass deaths and massive financial losses? You probably shouldn't compare this with the small beans of your life as its effect on others is somewhat minimal.

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In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble.

Ron Paul

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hottomles: Just making any old doc classified, presumably because its embarrassing, simply won't do.

And publishing embarrassing personal opinions that one diplomat might have about a world leader just because it's embarrassing and sensational won't do, either. That has absolutely nothing at all to do with freedom or democracy.

What there needs to be is a compromise. Some things need to stay private. Some things should not. Would you agree to that?

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Interesting that what amounts to a champion of freedom of information, is being inundated by Americans and their government pressure desperate to shut him down. This man should win an award for showing up 300 million people who supposedly champion freedom as a pack of liars. Is America dead?

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This man should win an award for showing up 300 million people who supposedly champion freedom as a pack of liars.

Ahhh!! The ol' grudge against America trick. Mr. Assange is a champion of the anti crowd.

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This man should win an award for showing up 300 million people who supposedly champion freedom as a pack of liars. Is America dead?

You do understand that there also the 4th amendment to the Constitution that provides protections for that very freedom so that it is not abused don't you.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I'd say that Assange pretty much violated flaunted that part of the equation.

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There is legislation pending in the US Congress to shut down the Internet. US Foreign Policy doesn't look good under the scrutiny of the world. However, the US needs a reason to shut down the Internet. Something will break soon.

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Mikehuntez

Wikileaks started close to four years ago.Assange has revealed embarrasing docs abt other govts b4,for eg kenya etc.

When it gets to the US,U call him a champion of the anticrowd.

u r no different than those black box guys here.

Nationalism,may have blinded ur reasoning

Wikileaks will prevail.

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There is one peculiar aspect to Wikileaks info releases. The sheer volume released at one time. That action would be closer to amateurs dealing w/ sensitive info. However, after perusing the Wikileaks website, Mr. Assange and associates are professional handlers of info. I was surprised that a well funded organization was releasing info/intelligence grade communications like amateurs. Also, there is no more info on how Pfc. Manning acquired such a huge amount of sensitive info - strong implications that people at a higher level is involved. Time will tell.....

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u r no different than those black box guys here.

I don't own a black box of any type. What box are you talking about?

So because I think him releasing classified information now and not when he did it before I am blinded by nationalism? Where do you get that? First I don't know of any info he released before. Don't really care either. But if he did then that country should persue him if he released their sensitive information.

And by the way, I'm not a nationalist in Canada nor in Japan. I have things I like about both places and things I hate about both places. Or were you implying that I was some nationalist American? Wrong again.

Because I disagree with what this guy did you assume a lot about me. You know what they say about the ASS U ME word.

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People seem to be ignoring the fact that people bring the information -to- Wikileaks. That's why they are a wiki... made of leaks. And that means that it's not just Julian releasing this data, but people in positions of privlege who decide that something is immoral or being kept from the populace against their better interest. And that's why they bring these documents to Wikileaks. Not because they want to sabotage their own countries.

Do you really think someone would do this just out of some immature anti-government rhetoric? No. It's because they think it's the right thing to let everyone know the data.

The governments can crush Wikileaks if they want - it will just resurface somewhere else. Dont' think they don't have 100 backups of everything.

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This Assange guy admitted in an interview with The Guardian newspaper his leaks about Kenya directly led to the deaths of over a thousand people.These were innocent people. But he rationalized his interference in Kenyan politics. He said Kenyans needed to know that 40 000 children there die every year from malaria. He offered no hard data. This is typical left wing conflation of the political and legal concerns of human beings with the impersonal forces of nature.Julian Assange is a dangerous loon,and so are his cheerleaders.

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You do understand that there also the 4th amendment to the Constitution that provides protections for that very freedom so that it is not abused don't you.

The US constitution sets out the relationship between the government and citizens. Assange is not the US government, so the constitution has nothing to do with him.

Or put it this way, Americans have freedom of speech. That means that the US government is, according to the constitution, not supposed to infringe on that freedom. The guy at the bar who just smashed your nose in because you shot your mouth off is not bound by the constitution to respect your freedom of speech. Different laws apply to him.

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What there needs to be is a compromise. Some things need to stay private. Some things should not. Would you agree to that?

How? How am I supposed to trust a government that has been proven to have hidden evil deeds in Afghanistan to now work for a fair compromise on leaked documents, no tricks, no stalling? I have not heard one word of repentence from the U.S. government, not even from Mr. Transparency Barak Obama. So why should we all get fooled again?

It would also help to know exactly what document you have a problem with. It might not be necessary to release a document where one U.S. diplomat calls another diplomat a "bug-eyed little piggy", but if the full quote is "I managed to steal the credit card number of that bug-eyed little piggy as per the State Department request", then yes, that doc should be released, in full, no black marker over the insult.

Is it too much to ask U.S. diplomats to have a bit of class anyway?

And as I have pointed out many times, why in the Devil are you focused on Wikileaks? They could be a bit more perfect sure, but have you had a look at the U.S. gov that lied and covered up murders? How does murder compare to an embarrassing document? If this were the 1970s, there would have been a march. They had priorities back then!

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SolidariTea, nice little cherry pick there from Kenyan history. It might relieve you to know that violence before, during and after elections is pretty common there. So would you prefer that that election be peaceful, so that the info be found out later and have elections then? How many more children would die quietly from malaria in the interim? If a child drops dead in the forest, but we don't hear about it, did he really die?

You angle on this is like saying the Boston Massacre need not have happened, if only Americans had shut up and accepted British rule, even though British rule clearly sucked.

Anyway, the Kenyans are responsible for what they do with information, not Assange.

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hottomales: It might not be necessary to release a document where one U.S. diplomat calls another diplomat a "bug-eyed little piggy

And why don't you think that would be necessary? Is it because you don't support freedom or is it because of something else?

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Super, try to keep up. I already said sometimes secrets are necessary. But when governments clearly and massively abuse the priviledge its silly to get all huffy with the whistleblower for not being pure as driven snow. First things first. When the U.S. government stops lying where they shouldn't and hiding where they shouldn't, then lets attack wikileaks for its faults. Any way you slice this pie, whether its lives, damage, rules or fairness, Wikileaks is far from worst offender on the list.

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Wikileaks is far from worst offender on the list.

Right. However, Assange managed to make those offenses even more offensive. It's not the words that hurt, it's the way they're said. Wikileaks just missed a golden opportunity of becoming the oracle of truth in the web. If Assange was this smart guy he is said to be, he would have edited the personal comments or the more sensitive stuff. It would show some sort of professionalism. The way he did it, it's just like throwing s**t on the vent fan. No wonder, he's making more enemies than friends. I surely would keep my mouth shut next to this guy, not reliable at all.

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the only reason he is being assailed as an "enemy" is because the governments have told you so. Otherwise people are generally interested in what really goes on and showing the US as the scariest of the bunch is ironic. This is what the media used to do, before they were bought out by the corporations. CBS's "60 minutes" show today is another joke which epitomizes this transformation.

Wikileaks has done the world a huge favour. If anyone thinks people will be killed that wouldn't otherwise be killed by the very government actions wikileaks is reporting is ridiculous. And probably indicative of the mental capacity of a pablum public.

Here's your freedom on a platter, and you don't even want it.

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On the contrary, Americans themselves should be in support of Wikileaks. That there is an "outrage" leaves me scratching my head. What is America today if it isn't freedom of information? China? Truly America and what was America is long gone. It should be renamed Corporate America.

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If Assange was this smart guy he is said to be, he would have edited the personal comments or the more sensitive stuff. It would show some sort of professionalism.

Right. Then detractors would claim his editing proves the documents are fake or at least tampered with to the point we can't know what is true. Some people are going to blame the messanger no matter what.

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That there is an "outrage" leaves me scratching my head.

This my be part of the price of the internet. Its hard to tell how much of this outrage is posted by people who get paid to do things like that.

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When someone writes that "Truly America and what was America is long gone. It should be renamed Corporate America" they should first declare their socialist agenda. Not doing so undermines the already weak arguments of fellow travelers like "hottoamales," who try instead to justify what this Assange guy did in the name of "freedom." You America-haters need to coordinate better.

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There are alot of people who support wikileaks but they don't pay the bills. Wikileaks has done themselves a favor by potentially going out of business. Without the revenue sponsors and making more enemies, they will have difficult time staying in the business. In all businesses, you need allies. You can go to your extreme personel belief of disclosing goverment information but I doubt you can stay in business too long. You cannot fight the U.S. govenment. You have to understand it's not about right or wrong but there is a unwritten rule of conformity behavior. There are boundaries that you cannot cross and have to be careful if you plan to continue business.

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Maybe Assange the hero can leak all those nude photos of 13 year olds from the the airport scanners. Then we will know just what the government knows about us. Those and groping reports and everyone will know if we have a hernia or not. That is true freedom. No more secrets!!

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SolidariTea

I'm afraid that doesn't make a wit of sense. If socialist is all that remains of freedom then I guess that's also pretty sad. IBM did well in the 1930s in a European country due to corporate socialism btw. When freedom dies historically that's dangerous.

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This my be part of the price of the internet. Its hard to tell how much of this outrage is posted by people who get paid to do things like that.

More conspiracy silliness.Where are the wikileaks docs showing 9-11 was "an inside job", eh?

Hey - here's a nice conspiracy for ya:Assange will die, but it will be at the hands of an enraged Troofer idiot convinced that Assange is holding out on him.

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Just saw on TV this morning that Brazil very likely will buy tens of France's Mirage, despite a strong American lobby for USA's F-16. They said Wikileaks is not the major factor, but Assange helped the French side a lot.

I wonder how many American workers will have a poorer Christimas next year thanks to Assange.

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