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With Trump absent again, Republicans exchange insults at chaotic debate

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I appreciated the know nothing Ramaswamy being slammed into the dirt yet again.

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The moderators did not ask the candidates about Trump's myriad legal problems. The 77-year-old businessman-turned-politician has been indicted in four criminal cases,

Trump as successful a politician as he was a business man, squandering two legacies with his ego., degrading a company and a nation.

There is zero incentive for Trump to endure another cross examination at this debate given his lead and the courts.

Every time, I hear you, I feel a little dumber," Nikki Haley, the former United Nations ambassador, told Ramaswamy

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Ramaswamy stood out last time and in the max lib owning damn logic MAGA GOP he is the front man in the running for a place in MAGA world in the future.

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Desantis has lost his top 50 financial backers. Ditching Ron.

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Ramaswamy stood out last time and in the max lib owning damn logic MAGA GOP he is the front man in the running for a place in MAGA world in the future.

Can you give me the lowdown of each Democratic nominee? It seems like you put your heart and soul into the Republican Party but I haven't heard a peep from you about any of the candidates in the party you are registered with.

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but I haven't heard a peep from you about any of the candidates in the party you are registered with.

Request *invalid. I am an Independent and support Bernie Sanders, who is unfortunately not running.

As usual will have to go for second or third tier candidates

Such is the duopoly.

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I appreciated the know nothing Ramaswamy being slammed into the dirt yet again.

The good thing about him, he’s the youngest on that stage, so good things to come, definitely like the guy.

Trump as successful a politician as he was a business man, squandering two legacies with his ego.,

That’s the Dems take, confused people and they wonder while they’re losing in every single poll.

degrading a company and a nation.

Well, nation, hardly, but the Dems gave it there all

Ramaswamy stood out last time and in the max lib owning damn logic MAGA GOP he is the front man in the running for a place in MAGA world in the future.

Hope so.

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It’s a low bar to look less Presidential than the seditionist in Chief, but damned if they didn’t clear it!

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It'd take a miracle to change the outcome of 2024 at this point.

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The only hope for these thick losers is to help put Trump in prison.

They are all Dems until then

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Best show in town. My sides are still aching.

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Desantis has lost his top 50 financial backers. Ditching Ron.

He's about as appealing as a hemorrhoidectomy.

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They should call it the RINO debate. Fact is, the establishment would be happy with any of these candidates, none of them outside the neocon/neolib ideology.

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They should call it the RINO debate. 

What's a Rino?

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The only hope for these thick losers is to help put Trump in prison. 

They are all Dems until then.

What? ROFL

Regardless if Trump wins or not, if one of these other candidates becomes president, he’s going to be pardoned, that’s a given

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What's a Rino?

Republican in name only

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I’m Trumpacus!

No! I AM Trumpacus!

No, for it is I!

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What? ROFL

Pardoned from what? ROFL

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Republican in name only

I know that. What makes one a RINO?

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I know that. What makes one a RINO?

putting swamp over the nation

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putting swamp over the nation

And what does that mean? How are these candidates rinos?

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Trump 2024.

That's all I have to say at this point.

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Regardless if Trump wins or not, if one of these other candidates becomes president, he’s going to be pardoned, that’s a given

Repubs love pardoning their swampy criminal mates. Trump did loads of it.

But do you think they are going to give Donald a Get Out Of Jail Free card in return for nothing? That's not how the GOP swamp operates. 

They'll be asking him to drop out and endorse them in return for a pardon. That's assuming they can beat Joe, which they can't, as Trump couldn't.

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Mike Pence, vice president under Trump from 2017-2021, said he would take an opposite approach to Trump if elected. He said Trump planned to centralize power in the federal government but he would give more power to the states.

nothing says small government like all power concentrated in the hands of a unitary executive

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I watched a debate a couple weeks back. It was TERRIFYING.

Everyone there was utterly destroyed by Ramaswamy, but neither the people on the stage nor in the audience coud admit it and it was obviously in a large part due to White supremacy sentiments.....nothing but a product of stupidity and immaturity.

So yes, the climate change denying Ramaswamy wiped the mat with everybody else.

And all this is happening in the context of the Dems refusing to believe their could possibly be a better candidate than Joe Biden whose VP is also absolutely TERRIFYING, even worse that Biden's obviously not being all there anymore.

As usual its going to come down to a decision who is the lesser evil, and they are all particularly bad for this coming election, though perhaps still not as bad as Hillary?

Trump might actually be the lesser evil. And that, if true, is also TERRIFYING.

My fellow non-rich Americans, we are absolutely screwed. But me less than you, because you are there and I left. I say, get out while you can!

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The president cannot pardon the State crime in Georgia.

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Regardless if Trump wins or not, if one of these other candidates becomes president, he’s going to be pardoned, that’s a given

Maybe for the federal stuff. But they can't pardon him for his lost businesses in New York, nor for any charges he may face in Georgia.

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bass4funk

Regardless if Trump wins or not, if one of these other candidates becomes president, he’s going to be pardoned, that’s a given

Sounds like you believe and accept Trump will be found guilty.

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These seven candidates are supposed to be on the same side.

The insults become unwatchable after a time

Highlights from the second Republican presidential debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRq75gLcy-k

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Repubs love pardoning their swampy criminal mates. Trump did loads of it. 

Dems pardoned Menendez twice, let’s see if they’ll do it a third time.

But do you think they are going to give Donald a Get Out Of Jail Free card in return for nothing?

Not sure what that means, but he’ll be pardoned that’s as sure as the sun rises and tides roll in

That's not how the GOP swamp operates. 

Not swamp, he DeSantis and Vivek are not career politicians, which is why these guys are rock stars and refreshing as well for a change.

They'll be asking him to drop out and endorse them in return for a pardon. That's assuming they can beat Joe, which they can't, as Trump couldn't.

Hate to be the breaker of bad news, but…

.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-beats-biden-by-a-large-margin-in-head-to-head-matchup/ar-AA1hey6u

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/troubles-biden-age-reelection-campaign-poll/story?id=103436611

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Sounds like you believe and accept Trump will be found guilty.

I Never said that. I said, he’s not going to prison.

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You said whoever becomes president will pardon Trump.

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You said it twice.

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What's a Rino?

Republican in name only

I know that. What makes one a RINO?

putting swamp over the nation

So, Trump then. He wasn’t a Republican until he realized they were the only ones gullible enough to fall for his obvious lies.

He’s never supported traditional Republican goals or policies. He’s only using the party apparatus as a vehicle.

And he doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about the nation. He’s only in it for himself and a vain attempt to save his own ass.

OMG! Trump is a total RINO!

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”Drain the swamp! But after you’ve pardoned my favorite criminal!”

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Sounds like you believe and accept Trump will be found guilty.

I Never said that. I said, he’s not going to prison.

This is a lie. You are lying. You said he’d never be indicted or arrested not realizing that it’s a paired set.

You said he’d never stand trial.

You said he’d never be convicted.

You said he’d never go to jail.

You were wrong on the first 2-3 depending on how you count.

You’ll be wrong on the last 2.

And he is not getting pardoned. Because none of these goobers is going to win the nomination.

And Trump sure as hell isn’t winning the general.

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I know that. What makes one a RINO?

putting swamp over the nation

Yes, but Bush 2, a man you described as a RINO, was also a successful president according to you and your non-partisan historians.

Putting swamp over the nation isn’t a bad thing from this point of view.

Bush 2 won a second term. Trump got walloped.

Maybe it’s time for a RINO?

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You said whoever becomes president will pardon Trump.

That’s a big “if” kind like me becoming the CEO of Apple.

So, Trump then. He wasn’t a Republican until he realized they were the only ones gullible enough to fall for his obvious lies. 

No, that’s the Dems distorted version, but nice try. 200 accomplishments say otherwise.

He’s never supported traditional Republican goals or policies.

He has in fact, and beyond that, but more importantly, he was for more empowering the working middle class.

He’s only using the party apparatus as a vehicle. 

You guys are trying tonight, I’ll give you that. ROFL!!

And he doesn’t give a tinker’s damn about the nation.

Yes, he absolutely cares, that’s why he’s running, he could bow out and all this crap would go away, but he won’t and good on him 70 million and growing are counting on him.

He’s only in it for himself and a vain attempt to save his own ass.

Now no one wants to go to prison, Hillary, Joe, no one wants to go, they would do anything to stay out if their political rivals were using every illegal measure to try and lock them up, who’d blame them? I wouldn’t.

OMG! Trump is a total RINO!

No, but Mitch is, Romney, you know the people that love wars crowd.

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No questions on how they will stop the endless spending….??? How about some rules on interrupting.. Its a clown show. Obviously Rama is the most intelligent but we (I) got fooled by Obama so beware. The Republican Party is fake. They pretend to care about abortion, they don’t care about government spending or the deficit, they just pretend to. At this point it’s who has the best swag and convince people because they are entertaining.  So sad. All of them are responsible for inflation. The swamp runs deep on both sides. If you’re not skeptical in this environment you’re not too bright. At this point, the Left seems more artificial and the Right is seems more organic. If I have to choose I’ll take organic, but no guarantees. The problem is the Dems control media and most will believe anything they crank out, especially the indoctrinated youngsters. That’s why these days independent media is growing and mainstream is flailing. Spending needs to get under control, unless that’s the plan to just screw everything up and then usher in the great reset.

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You also said Trump was going to win by a landslide in 2020. Look how that turned out for him.

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Yes, he absolutely cares, that’s why he’s running, he could bow out and all this crap would go away, but he won’t and good on him 70 million and growing are counting on him

As usual first premises are totally wrong so everything after that is an illogical mish mash.

It is a unique presidential race because Trump is running to keep himself and family and cronies out of prison and keep his entire ill gotten family business from falling into a slightly lower socio economic class.

That is what would happen if he drops out now. It is naked self interest as usual.

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he was for more empowering the working middle class.

First president since Hoover to leave office with fewer jobs than when he started.

Cut taxes on the uber wealthy, leaving the working class stuck with table scraps or less.

Increased the trade deficit with China.

The only thing Trump gave the working middle class was perceived victimization by immigrants, transgender kids, BLM, and "socialists".

A total fraudster.

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Yes, he absolutely cares, that’s why he’s running

He’s running to save his own plus-sized ass. Period.

He doesn’t care about his own family (That wasn’t me. Eric ran the business) or even his rubes much less the broader public.

He’s a fraud. His entire origin story is a lie. He is a bovine feces distributor.

And everyone but his cult can see it. Clear as the orange on his face.

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Great performance with everyone at least on the same page with pointing out how much of a disaster Biden has been for the country snd the world.

It will be interesting to see if one of these will be Trump's VP.

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You also said Trump was going to win by a landslide in 2020. Look how that turned out for him.

And for the nation as a whole and all of the other shenanigans that we have been finding out about the irregularities that surrounded it, that mistake won’t happen again. This time Republicans are going to strictly play by the Democrat and rules, let’s see if they object again.

No questions on how they will stop the endless spending….???

Cut entitlements for starters…

How about some rules on interrupting..

Its a clown show.

Now I’m with you on that one, seriously!

Obviously Rama is the most intelligent

As long as he has his teleprompter standing by

but we (I) got fooled by Obama so beware. The Republican Party is fake. They pretend to care about abortion, they don’t care about government spending or the deficit, they just pretend to.

They do care about abortion, as for the Republicans being fake, that’s the reason why most conservatives wouldn’t vote for anyone else on that stage except Trump, DeSantis, Haley and Vivek, the rest need to go home.

At this point it’s who has the best swag and convince people because they are entertaining. So sad. All of them are responsible for inflation. The swamp runs deep on both sides. If you’re not skeptical in this environment you’re not too bright. At this point, the Left seems more artificial and the Right is seems more organic. If I have to choose I’ll take organic, but no guarantees. The problem is the Dems control media and most will believe anything they crank out, especially the indoctrinated youngsters. That’s why these days independent media is growing and mainstream is flailing. Spending needs to get under control, unless that’s the plan to just screw everything up and then usher in the great reset.

Look, I agree with a lot of what you said, you definitely touched on a lot of valid points, but the days of the establishment Washington politician is pretty much in the rear-view mirror. The populist movement is gaining ground definitely on the conservative side, and not sure what will happen on the left, but for them Capitalism is pretty much a bad word except if you’re on the top (most libs are) that control the country not sure if they want to give that power up.

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Don-Don kinda silent on his fraud. 

I bet he is scared $hitt!€ss. 

Just wait until he’s sentenced to years in prison for trying to overthrow the government!

Sure, let's wait.

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bass4funk

You also said Trump was going to win by a landslide in 2020. Look how that turned out for him.

> And for the nation as a whole and all of the other shenanigans that we have been finding out about the irregularities that surrounded it, that mistake won’t happen again. This time Republicans are going to strictly play by the Democrat and rules, let’s see if they object again.

Trump, Giuliani, or any other person has failed to produce evidence showing that the election wasn't fair and secure and no evidence of fraud that would have changed Trump's defeat.

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Trump, Giuliani, or any other person has failed to produce evidence showing that the election wasn't fair and secure and no evidence of fraud that would have changed Trump's defeat.

Ok, well proving it and believing that the election was fair are two different things. If you think it was fair, fine. I and millions of other people have a different opinion whether the swamp acknowledges it or not.

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bass4funk

Trump, Giuliani, or any other person has failed to produce evidence showing that the election wasn't fair and secure and no evidence of fraud that would have changed Trump's defeat.

> Ok, well proving it and believing that the election was fair are two different things. If you think it was fair, fine. I and millions of other people have a different opinion whether the swamp acknowledges it or not.

Proof is what is required by the courts. Where is your evidence?

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