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Zaphod
Good luck with that. She should have known that this is Quatar and not Sweden.
PTownsend
It will be interesting to watch whether Australians working in Qatar will later be hassled in some way by the Qatari regime. Like Saudi Arabia, Qatar is run by Salifist Muslims who could use their interpretations of Sharia Law to retaliate against Australians, maybe other 'westerners there, too. The next World Cup could better be watched on TV far from Doha, rather than from any venue in Qatar. But FIFA like the IOC care first and foremost about its bureaucrats lining their pockets. Just like Qatar's ruling family and the local tribe's supporting them. Neither FIFA, nor the IOC nor any of the Gulf's ruling families care two anythings for those not of a moneyed caste or tribe.
Bob Fosse
What on earth are you on about this time?
Airport gynecological searches are acceptable if you visit Qatar? Who is this singular ‘she’? Did you read the article?
Zaphod
Bob Fosse
What is acceptable in in Qatar is determined by Qatar law, which is Sharia based.
OK, "they". I suggest none of them bothered to read up on Shariah law.
Bob Fosse
Who would have guessed. I guess you can stop complaining about ‘authoritarian overreach’ and government control of freedoms now.
Khaos
What kind of sick and perverted mind came up with the concept of punishable childbirth. I wish such evil didn't exist.
Ubesh
A lot of people talk about boycotting the Winter Olympics over Xinjiang, but people should instead pay attention to how Qatar treats its foreign population, who are not only subject to the rampant misogynic and homophobia present in the country, but millions of workers for the World Cup have been treated as slaves and thousands have been killed. The world cup is tainted by blood and we're forcing our women and LGBTQ to travel to a horrid country. Boycott!
Fighto!
Qatar - Sick and perverted culture, society and regime.
Eastman
well its Qatar.their rules.you follow or refuse.but yes when money comes first...
tooheysnew
Best of luck to them - get as much of that dirty oil money as you can
ulysses
We should remember that the taliban criminals lived a comfortable life in Qatar for over 2 decades, getting legitimacy and it played a part in their eventual return. Qatar wants to be Saudi Arabia, using its oil wealth to bully their way across the world.
What they did to these women was shameful, however I doubt anything will come out of the suit.
The Saudis have been sued over 9/11, Khashogi murder and nothing ever came out of it!!!
Bob Fosse
Every country has its own unique laws. The majority of your posts are criticising the laws of countries, across several continents, for restrictions on freedom.
What makes Shariah law and Qatar special for you?
Jimizo
Very good post.
When you have oil and can fill as many brown envelopes as you like to bursting point, these things tend to go away- you can get a World Cup. I got the sense that the cloak of religion helped muffle a full-on attack on their disgraceful human rights record. You may have been called ‘Islamophobic’ from some.
Have you? I regard Sharia or any religious-based law as an absolutely atrocious idea, but is this common practice in other societies with legal systems based on Sharia? My understanding is that Sharia is implemented differently in different societies.
What exactly should they have read here?
Zaphod
Bob Fosse
Yes, so?
I do criticize secular countries which are supposed to protect personal freedom for going authoritarian and restrict that freedom. Your point?
Nothing. It is a Shariah country. I did not say I like Sharia law, I just said these women seem blissfully unaware of it. Again, what is your point, if any.
Zaphod
Jimizo
It is correct that Shariah is implemented to different degrees in different countries, but they should have known that in Qatar it is strict and they should know that the status of women and the crime of adultery is what it is under Sharia and not expect to be excempted from it while there.
Mr Kipling
They didn't just randomly "check women's bits" A new born baby was found abandoned in a toilet. They knew it was someone fro the 12 planes so "investigated". Rather poorly but in their mind it was the only option to find the mother.
Bob Fosse
So, this argument can be used against you next time you get uppity about somewhere.
Oh secular only. I see. Let’s both remember that for future reference.
My point is simple. You blame these women for their violation. ‘Blissfully unaware’.
I very much doubt they knew someone would be invading their private parts upon landing or that it is acceptable to accept any female arriving in Qatar should expect such an inspection.
The World Cup should get a pamphlet out quick or there’s going to be a lot of rather surprised ladies.
kurisupisu
Passengers in transit were forced unwillingly to have these gynaecological examinations – that is not the way to do it!
MilesTeg
At the time, Qatar's Prime Minister Khalid bin Khalifa bin Abdulaziz Al Thani tweeted an apology saying: "We regret the unacceptable treatment of the female passengers... What took place does not reflect Qatar's laws or values." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59288177
The PM himself stated this practice is not part of Qatar's laws. So there was no point in them reading-up on Shariah Law. You clearly didn't bother to read-up on the story from better news sources.
Bob Fosse
The truth unfortunately doesn’t influence the opinions of some posters.
Thank you for this clarification.
Luddite
All foreign women on that plane were forced at gunpoint to have an invasive gynacological examination. That is sexual assault. Even old women who could not have just given birth. The official who ordered this was convicted but did not go to prison. I don’t think this had much to do with trying to find the mother of the child.
But, as night follows day, all the victim blamers crawl out from under their stones.
Kaerimashita
Good luck with that. Like Qatar cares what an Australian court rules.
Mr Kipling
Luddite...
No, they were not forced at gunpoint. They would not be allowed to board their flight.
Samit Basu
They deserve to win this lawsuit, except I don't think they will win much monetary award since this is Qatar we are talking about.
Zaphod
Bob Fosse
....upon leaving actually. And no, I did no say they should have expected that, but they should have known that Shariah law assigns women a status that allows such things.
Nobody said that. But read up on how sex crimes are treated under Shariah. You are arguing against strawmen.
Strangerland
Maybe you should actually try to know what you are talking about, rather than just posting what you assumed to happened. They were forced off their plane at gunpoint, women only, taken to an ambulance, with armed guards outside the ambulance, and forced to remove their pants and underwear for a gynecological exam. Don't like the truth? Argue it with the woman to whom it happened. Here's her testimonial, on camera, for the world to see the truth.
https://youtu.be/JgIvt9nm_1M?t=365
I'm suspecting that Qatar, who has the CCP on their side, have been encouraging the CCP to have their propaganda machine get out and try to create propaganda on this incident so they don't look so bad. Mr. Kipling regularly makes posts that are directly in line with the CCP propaganda machine, and here is Mr. Kipling making what is clearly a wrong statement about this incident, to make it look like these women willingly took off their clothes and allowed themselves to be subjected to gynecological exams, just so they wouldn't be late for their flight or something.
If I were a woman, I would never take a flight transferring through Qatar unless and until they rectify this situation, and put forward measures to ensure it never happens again. Airlines that continue to use the Doha airport in the meantime should be called out for their willingness to put their passengers at risk. They should be taking measures to find other airports through which to transfer. This is not an acceptable incident. As passengers, we trust airports to respect our human rights, regardless of the feelings towards those human rights in those countries. If their airports are not willing to respect these human rights, then the airlines should not be using them.
I believe their should be sanctions - a tax put on any airline that uses the Doha airport. This is as egregious an offense as has ever happened by an airport authority.
Luddite
They were on a flight, they were removed at gunpoint and ordered into the back of the ambulance and sexually assaulted. This is well documented, yet so many are making false statements and claims when commenting on this story.
Why anyone would try and make excuses for this crime is sickening. Why would anyone want to be an apologist for sexual assault?
albaleo
@Strangerland
Perhaps a trivial point, but I've only heard that they were escorted by "armed guards". I've heard no mention of "at gunpoint". Most airport guards in the Middle East are armed - at least from my experience. Nevertheless, the treatment of the women was extremely bad. From the woman in the interview at your link, perhaps worse than the examination itself was that she wasn't told what was going to happen when she was taken off the plane. It's hard to imagine how scared she must have felt.
Strangerland
Fair enough, it may not literally have been at gunpoint. But as someone not accustomed to guns, the distinction between having them being present while being ordered off the plane, and having them point the guns at me while making the same order, is insignificant.
Strangerland
They weren't visiting, they were transiting. If they are to be a transit nation, they need to respect human rights. If they don't want to respect human rights, then people should refuse to transfer through the nation.
SAME#
Words matter here. Let's use the correct ones. It was not a gynaecological exam, nor a sexual assault. It was rape. These women were raped.
Qatar is a sick country and I advise women to never use a qatari airline (or any other middle East ones) if they want to be safe.
And to anyone: please don't give these crazy countries by visiting them, there are plenty or nicer other places where you can also drink, have sex while being not married and criticize the country without being thrown in jail.
Bob Fosse
Oh, they shouldn’t have expected that. But they should have known it could happened and allowed it. That’s your defense is it? I see.
Despite already being corrected on the matter by the PM of Qatar who stated clearly that this in now way is acceptable under Qatar’s laws, you persist in blaming the women for not reading shariah law.
But tell me once more about freedom and government overreach.