World media struggle to translate Trump's Africa/Haiti insult

@pt I think translators, especially those required to do translations of Trump, should spend time at US boys middle school locker rooms to get a better understanding of the language used by Trump and his supporters.

@bas4 But saying it in the locker room and around others privately is ok? So being honest privately is better than being honest publicly.

As usual I'm a bit confused how your response relates to my post. My point is Trump uses the language of a junior high boy. Most likely translators are accustomed to dealing with higher level language. In fairness to junior high boys, most have superior reasoning skills to Trump's, whose reasoning seems to be stuck at K-6 level, which you'd expect from a spoiled class brat coddled since birth.

Trump's nasty statements (and openly horrible attitudes) about Africa are creating a national security problem. As long as their are Islamic extremists operating in Africa, we will not be safe if African countries decide not to help us with intelligence operations and other assistance. We cannot protect ourselves alone. The U.S. has "human assets" in our intelligence network all over the world. Once we insult the wrong people, they have no cover. You get the drift. As bad as this is, there is still the economic damage of the U.S. simply being ignored when other countries come together in forming trade and environmental collaborations. Maybe, just maybe, they will find out that they just don't need the U.S. for much of anything. If you are not a target of North Korea, what can we do for you anyway?

I hope all global media use a word that includes their term for Feces rather than euphemisms like "dirty". I can't imagine any culture on this planet that wouldn't grasp the sheer crassness and immaturity of Trump's vocabulary, and his mental state. World leaders have plenty of words like "under developed" or even "backwards" to describe what Trump was saying, but his choice suggests a degree of contempt, which easily translates to racism.

As usual I'm a bit confused how your response relates to my post. My point is Trump uses the language of a junior high boy. 

Then you haven't watched CNN lately.

I haven't watched CNN lately. And Trump uses the language of a junior high school boy (its been proven: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/18/trumps-grammar-in-speeches-just-below-6th-grade-level-study-finds/). I have no idea what sort of relationship you think exists between these two points though.

@pt As someone involved in media, you should know that when you use someone else's words and ideas, they're supposed to be given credit. When you quote Hannity, Limbaugh, etal, they should be credited.

@bas4 Because you think so? So who should I quote? who is the voice of liberal reason? Oprah, Noam Chomsky, Rachel Maddow, Stephen Colbert?

Missed the point again. I'd explain further, but know that would be a waste of time.

@bas4 White supremacy? What?

Suggest you re-read some of your posts.

I think translators, especially those required to do translations of Trump, should spend time at US boys middle school locker rooms to get a better understanding of the language used by Trump and his supporters.

"Outdoor toilet" doesn't universally translate? Just add a "(vulgar)" to the words if that extra clarification is needed locally.

Then you haven't watched CNN lately.

I heard they were criticised for using trashy, juvenile language on air.

That is, they quoted the words of the trashy, juvenile President of the US.

Is this true?

heard they were criticised for using trashy, juvenile language on air. 

That is, they quoted the words of the trashy, juvenile President of the US. 

Is this true?

Hey, they need the ratings, so whatever can bring home the bacon

Good point. I suppose the question is whether it’s okay to follow the President of the US into the sewer. A tough one.

I hope they don’t go as low as showing dodgy videos from racist groups to attempt to prove a point. That would be spewing pure filth rather than just being around it the sewer.

Best leave that kind of behaviour to the leader of the most powerful country in the world.

Every day the mentally ill Trump does something to demonstrate just how completely unfit he is for the office of President ... of anything, really.

People are fixating on the choice of words. The attention really needs to be shined on the fact that Trump's sentiment, however crudely he phrased it, is un-American.

It wasn't racist.

It wasn't illegal.

It was in poor taste, that is true.

I don't understand the multi-day interest.

Not just Europe but the world. Blows most countries out of the water, including the US, on the scales that matter. 

Again, good for them. Happy for them, they have their culture and way of life and we have ours.

Now are you going to address the idea of the president of the US, a country which trades with and has interests in pretty much every country on the planet, describing countries as “s###holes”? 

Depends.

We can argue all day about the language, but the mainstream media and professional offendees on social media are keener on getting in in their hourly 2 minutes of hate (and change) on Trump than trying to solve problems in the source countries in ways that don’t include appeasement and virtue signalling.

And it’s more than amusing that all those folks who swore they’d leave the US if Trump were elected have stayed put. And they were “planning” to move to Western countries, not any of the places a certain Simpsons barman might call “one a dem loser countries”. Racist? You decide ;-)

And it’s more than amusing that all those folks who swore they’d leave the US if Trump were elected have stayed put. And they were “planning” to move to Western countries, not any of the places a certain Simpsons barman might call “one a dem loser countries”. Racist? You decide ;-)

Bingo!

As usual, the media are tripping over themselves to claim the title of Most Offended by Trump. And whatever language he used or didn’t use here is beside the point and pales into insignificance compared to the real problem he and the others in the room were discussing: whether allowing large numbers of people into the US from what are essentially failed states is good for the US. Will they be a net benefit or liability for the people already there and future generations?

If the source countries are anything to go by, it’s not unreasonable to raise the question. Any before cries of racism and colonialism fly off your keyboards, how were these places doing before western civilization came along? Call them what you will (the countries, not the people), but how many people consider migrating to Haiti and various African nations instead of away from them? And don’t forget how the Clintons used Haiti as a poster child to collect millions of dollars for their phony foundation, yet they get a free pass from the media and Left in general.

Some perspective wouldn’t go astray.

I think translators, especially those required to do translations of Trump, should spend time at US boys middle school locker rooms to get a better understanding of the language used by Trump and his supporters.

But saying it in the locker room and around others privately is ok? So being honest privately is better than being honest publicly.

Trump's nasty statements (and openly horrible attitudes) about Africa are creating a national security problem. As long as their are Islamic extremists operating in Africa, we will not be safe if African countries decide not to help us with intelligence operations and other assistance.

You believe that garbage? We will never be safe sound Islamists, has nothing to do with what the President said.

We cannot protect ourselves alone. The U.S. has "human assets" in our intelligence network all over the world.

Like Israel? So that means maintaining relations is very important, right?

Once we insult the wrong people, they have no cover. You get the drift.

Oh, I do, so I think our allies understand this.

As bad as this is, there is still the economic damage of the U.S. simply being ignored when other countries come together in forming trade and environmental collaborations. Maybe, just maybe, they will find out that they just don't need the U.S. for much of anything. If you are not a target of North Korea, what can we do for you anyway?

It's not that bad, they will always need the US it's money and all will be ok, by summer, this will be another blip on the radar.

As usual I'm a bit confused how your response relates to my post. My point is Trump uses the language of a junior high boy. 

Then you haven't watched CNN lately.

Most likely translators are accustomed to dealing with higher level language. In fairness to junior high boys, most have superior reasoning skills to Trump's, whose reasoning seems to be stuck at K-6 level, which you'd expect from a spoiled class brat coddled since birth.

When the left talk this, I wonder who is the big boy in the room.

People are fixating on the choice of words. The attention really needs to be shined on the fact that Trump's sentiment, however crudely he phrased it, is un-American.

How so?