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Its more of feeling that the entire situation is out of control and the polticians are denying that there is a problem no matter how many deals you make with neighbouring countries human trafficking are going to prosper if you dont take on a hard approach.

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Reality check time.

Global warming will increase mass migration to levels never seen before. Yet conservatives in the US and in other countries are unwilling to take the hard steps to address this issue. That will inevitably lead to severe problems that we could address now before they are worst.

Nationalism and Xenophobia are on the rise in much of the world. Neither will address the inescapable reality that we have spent the last 40 years creating a globalised world economy that will inevitably mean people working and living all over the world. You cannot have both a global economy and nationalistic isolationism for immigration. Choose one or the other.

Racism. We are seeing way too much of a return to racism.

Fear. People fear change. But change is inevitable. The only rational solution is to learn to deal with change and enact policies that help smooth over the inevitable integration of outsiders into every country.
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the problem is a religeous group who have a well deserved reputation for deliberate failure to assimilate and proclivity for carrying out acts of violence in their host countries.

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Is it racist to want to live mainly with people who share your values? In-group preference is normal and developed out of evolutionary necessity.

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It's a fact that most people prefer to be around people of "their own kind", by which I mean colour, language, values, interests. Of course, that fact doesn't suit certain ideologues and certain ideologies.

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Reality is sinking in.. I think what needs to be done isn't so much opening the doors to ones own country... but instead starting to assist other countries to raise themselves up to a standard where their citizens actually DON'T WANT TO LEAVE!

Say no to economic migrants, and offer assistance and guidance for poorer countries to become better. If their government's can't get it together with that kind of help, then leave them to themselves if it shows that they're not willing to improve.

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"Is it racist to want to live mainly with people who share your values?"

No, but I think the issue is what those values are. I'm fine with living with people with different values as long as those values don't preach or encourage hatred or intolerance of others, create violence or attempt to erode the core values of the host country, I'm fine with them.

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"You cannot have both a global economy and nationalistic isolationism for immigration."

Yes you can. China and South Korea are proof of that.

The developed world has no need for large-scale immigration. We have entered a long-term and entrenched "secular stagnation" cycle that will shrink demand for new laborers, while about 40 percent of jobs will be fully automated in the future, according to studies.

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Jimizo, you're saying the values can be different as long as they have the values you laid out. I agree that having people integrate peacefully is the way to go. The only way to have successful integration is by not subsidizing immigration through govt policy. Someone coming to Japan that has to make a living for themselves would have intense pressure to learn the language, culture etc. and demonstrate to the people here that they deserve the trust necessary to employ them. The govt is utterly incapable of determining who would fit in and who wouldn't.

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I think what needs to be done isn't so much opening the doors to ones own country... but instead starting to assist other countries to raise themselves up to a standard where their citizens actually DON'T WANT TO LEAVE!

That's actually a good point. Somewhat related, if Trump becomes president, the collapse of the American economy will likely result in significantly reduced numbers of people actually wanting into America. So Trump could inadvertently result in the goal that he and the Trumpets want (and only at the expense of the economy).

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@Andrew Barker

Yes, I think the ideas I laid out are broad enough to accommodate a variety of beliefs or point out that certain values are not acceptable in civilised societies.

I'm from the UK and I'm in favour of controlled immigration, something the UK got wrong over the last fifteen years or so ( this was admitted by the politicians who oversaw it ). Immigration on the scale we've had makes integration extremely difficult, fuels discontent and leads to problems for both the native population and the immigrants themselves. The government can do better with sensible immigration policies which can minimize discontent.

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Thanks for clarifying, Jimizo. If I were forced to choose a hill to die on, it would be the concept of free speech. As long as any immigrant coming to a country knew that they will have no government protection from "words" apart from threats, they would think twice about coming.

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I don't think the vast majority of people are or at least were against immigration per se but rather how it's done, who's coming, how many of them, are they integrating and contributing to the society etc.

Give me a well behaved, hard working, law abiding etc Arabic/Muslim, South American, Asian etc family as neighbours over some white trash, dole bludging, loud caucasians any day of the week. Problem is many countries, particularly in europe, have failed what was an essential part of the process i.e 'who, how many, how' and decades later immigrants are often over represented in crime rate/prison, unemployment benefits etc. I really don't think it's a race issue but rather the result of failed immigration policies. The few countries who have managed the 'who, how many, how' reasonably well are doing ok and are what we could call prosperous multicultural societies (oz and nz come to mind, possibly Canada)..

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Ban religion and we'd all get along wonderfully!

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Give me a well behaved, hard working, law abiding etc Arabic/Muslim, South American, Asian etc family as neighbours over some white trash, dole bludging, loud caucasians any day of the week.

Give me none of these.

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"Give me a well behaved, hard working, law abiding etc Arabic/Muslim, South American, Asian etc family as neighbours over some white trash, dole bludging, loud caucasians any day of the week.

Give me none of these."

HAH good one... How about a hard-working, law-abiding, polite, and well-mannered Euro-Canadian? :-)

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