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'Racist' Trump ad pulled from air as campaigns rush to uncertain end

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By John Whitesides

NBC, Fox News and Facebook pulled an ad by President Donald Trump's campaign that critics had labeled racist as a bitter election fight for control of the U.S. Congress headed on Monday for an unpredictable finish.

Tuesday's elections, widely seen as a referendum on Trump, have been portrayed by both Republicans and Democrats as critical for the direction of the country. At stake is control of both chambers of Congress, and with it the ability to block or promote Trump's agenda, as well as 36 governor's offices.

A surge in early voting, fueled by a focus on Trump's pugilistic, norms-breaking presidency by supporters of both parties, could signal the highest turnout in 50 years for a midterm U.S. election, when the White House is not on the line.

The 30-second ad, which was sponsored by Trump's 2020 re-election campaign and which debuted online last week, featured courtroom video of an illegal immigrant from Mexico convicted in the 2014 killings of two police officers, juxtaposed with scenes of migrants headed through Mexico.

Critics, including members of Trump's own party, had condemned the spot as racially divisive.

CNN had refused to run the ad, saying it was "racist." NBC, owned by Comcast Corp, said on Monday it was no longer running the ad, which it called "insensitive."

Fox News Channel, which Trump has repeatedly named his favorite broadcaster, also said it would no longer run the spot. Fox News, a unit of Twenty-First Century Fox Inc, said it had made the decision after a review but did not elaborate.

Facebook Inc said it would no longer allow paid promotions of the ad, although it would allow users to share the ad on their own pages.

Trump batted away reporters' questions about the networks' decision to drop the ad.

"You're telling me something I don't know about. We have a lot of ads, and they certainly are effective based on the numbers we're seeing," Trump said as he departed Joint Base Andrews in Maryland for a rally in Cleveland.

Asked about concerns that the ad was offensive, he replied:"A lot of things are offensive. Your questions are offensive."

After Ohio, Trump headed to campaign against vulnerable Democratic U.S. senators in Indiana and Missouri at the end of a six-day pre-election sweep that has featured heated rhetoric about immigration and repeated warnings about a caravan of Central American migrants moving through Mexico toward the U.S. border.

"The contrast in this election could not be more clear," Trump told supporters in Indiana at a rally for Republican Mike Braun, who is facing incumbent Democratic Senator Joe Donnelly in a tight race. "If you want more caravans, vote for Democrats tomorrow."

Opinion polls and election forecasters favor Democrats to pick up the minimum of 23 seats they need on Tuesday to capture a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives, which would enable them to stymie Trump's legislative agenda and investigate his administration.

Republicans are favored to retain their slight majority in the U.S. Senate, currently at two seats, which would let them retain the power to approve U.S. Supreme Court and other judicial nominations on straight party-line votes.

But 64 of the 435 House races remain competitive, according to a Reuters analysis of the three main nonpartisan U.S. forecasters, and control of the Senate is likely to come down to a half dozen close contests in Arizona, Nevada, Missouri, North Dakota, Indiana and Florida.

Democrats also are threatening to recapture governor's offices in several battleground states such as Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania, a potential help for the party in those states in the 2020 presidential race.

Trump, who frequently warns of voter fraud and has asserted without evidence that millions of fraudulent votes were cast in 2016, said on Twitter on Monday that law enforcement should be on the lookout for "illegal voting."

Democratic former President Barack Obama delivered doughnuts to campaign volunteers in a House district in suburban Virginia, where Democrat Jennifer Wexton, a state senator, is challenging Republican incumbent Barbara Comstock in a fiercely contested race.

Obama said the country's character and its commitment to decency and equality were on the ballot on Tuesday.

"All across the country, what I'm seeing is a great awakening," he said. "People woke up and said: 'Oh, we can't take this for granted. We've got to fight for this.'"

About 40 million early votes – including absentee, vote-by-mail and in-person ballots – will likely be cast by Election Day, according to Michael McDonald, a professor at the University of Florida who tracks the figures. In the last such congressional elections in 2014, there were 27.5 million early votes.

McDonald estimated that 45 percent of registered voters would cast ballots, which would be the highest for a midterm election in 50 years.

"The atypical thing that we're seeing is high early vote activity in states without competitive elections or no statewide elections," McDonald said in a phone interview.

"There's only one explanation for that: Donald Trump. He's fundamentally changed how people are following politics."

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Never mind the racism in this ad, it's not racist! This is just more biased, liberal MSM poppycock! Berber mind the racism.

Comservative "logic" right there.

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At a rally, Trump said

Where are the Bikers for Trump? Where are the police? Where are the military? Where are — ICE? Where are the border patrol? No. We’ve taken a lot, we’ve taken a lot.

He's conflating there his own paramilitary - Bikers for Trump - with supposedly non-partisan branches of the government, as if they were his toys (in the spirit of "my generals").

Two takeaways: Trump does not understand the Constitution; and Trump is truly panicked.

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One could argue that the murder of the tow cops by a Mexican illegal immigrant is also racially divisive, but this point never makes it through the liberal press.

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One could argue that the murder of the tow cops by a Mexican illegal immigrant is also racially divisive, but this point never makes it through the liberal press

One could argue this, but one would be utterly incorrect.

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When Fox pulls an Ad for being racist, you can bet it’s really racist.

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Fox News pulled the ad? LOL.

“A lot of things are offensive. Your questions are offensive.”

Trump sounds like a triggered liberal arts major.

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One could argue that the murder of the tow cops by a Mexican illegal immigrant is also racially divisive, but this point never makes it through the liberal press.

Or you could argue that the motives of a random killer who is behind bars and is only being brought to our attention because of his immigration status are less worthy of public debate than the actions of the President of the United States spreading a message of hate so vile that even Fox News are washing their hands of it.

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Where are the Bikers for Trump?

Trump's begging for beefy boys to put on display at his beer hall rallies. He wants biker boys backing him like Tsar Vlad has. That so many rightwingers are afraid of women suggests they're lacking something. But overusing steroids can have that effect.

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The fact that Fox pulled this ad is really going to put Trump supporters in a bind. Do they obey their knee-jerk reaction to defend Trump, or do they obey their slavish affection for Fox "News"?

Then again, Trump has probably watched a segment on Fox "News" that decries this ad as racist, so he's probably following suit.

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Trump batted away reporters' questions about the networks' decision to drop the ad.

"You're telling me something I don't know about. We have a lot of ads, and they certainly are effective based on the numbers we're seeing," Trump said...Asked about concerns that the ad was offensive, he replied,"A lot of things are offensive. Your questions are offensive."

He's such an arsehole.

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law enforcement should be on the lookout for "illegal voting."

What? The USA doesn't have police at polling locations, unless there is a traffic problem outside on the road or someone calls them for an emergency. By law, people and advertising trying to get votes has to be some distance away from each polling location.

Polls are fairly calm - almost like a church. My poll location is a church annex building.

Voter registration is the method used in the USA to prevent illegal voting. That is why it is so important to prevent non-Citizens and anyone convicted of a felony crime from registering. It is also important to remove dead people from the registration and people who have moved out of a voting district.

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The ad is not only racist and offensive, it's based on a falsehood; real Fake News.

The ad claims of Bracamontes, the undocumented immigrant convicted of killing two police officers, that "Democrats let him into our country,”.....“Democrats let him stay.”

Not true.

The cop killer was deported several times under both Republic and and Democrat presidents before entering the US for the last time in 2001 during the presidency of Dubya.

It was both Dems and Repubs who 'let him into the country', and Republicans who 'let him stay'.

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Trump is being jumped upon simply because he is not on message. While the liberal media and Twitterati regard certain kinds of speech utterly unforgivable (in the case that the speaker/writer is a pale-skinned), yet are prepared to overlook industrial scale rapes / honour killings / FGM ( in the case that the perpetrator is brown-skinned), Trump will remain relevant.

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“Democratic former President Barack Obama delivered donuts to campaign volunteers in a House district in suburban Virginia,”

oh the memes there couid be on this one.

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Hey let’s not forget Trump “is the LEAST racist “...

if trump and company get their way it will become racist to not accept racism:-/

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they certainly are effective based on the numbers we're seeing," Trump said

This is how Trump sees anything. If it works for him, it's OK, no matter how immoral or divisive.

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This ad is beyond even what I thought Trump and his Republican cult could come up with - it's just outright hate speech - which is why even Faux News couldn't stomach showing it.

All it does is blame Democrats while failing to mention that this murderer was arrested and let go twice during the GW Bush years, and was locked up and then let go FOUR TIMES from Trump acolyte (and partner (pardon) in crime Joe Arpaio.

https://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/joe-arpaio-denies-blame-for-releasing-immigrant-shown-in-donald-trump-ad

Shameless, disgusting, vile - unfortunately that's what we've come to expect from Trump and his Republican cohorts in hate...  

“Democratic former President Barack Obama delivered donuts to campaign volunteers in a House district in suburban Virginia,”

oh the memes there couid be on this one.

And this is all a Trump supporter has to say about this ad - pretty telling isn't it....

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Trump is being jumped upon simply because he is not on message.

Exactly. Racist bigotry is most definitely off message.

You talk as if there is something wrong with that.

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The racist ad is so obvious it just makes the GOP look bad. Republicans have to answer questions about it on the campaign trail.

Did you guys see what that nutjob in Georgia is doing by starting an investigation into Democrats two days before his election?

Here in AZ they are hammering home the lie that the GOP voted to strengthen protection for pre-existing conditions.

Lies and racism. Let's see if it pays off for the GOP.

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Exactly. Racist bigotry is most definitely off message.

I agree. Pity it isn’t racist. Unless telling the truth is racist, of course.

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I agree. Pity it isn’t racist. Unless telling the truth is racist, of course.

The entire ad is fake news. Totally racist - they are trying to say "Don't let in Mexicans, because we already did and he murdered people, but we're going to try to pretend it was the other team".

Why do Republicans love fake news?

Why are Republicans fundamentally incapable of telling the truth?

Why do Republicans want illegal immigrant murderers to live in America?

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I agree. Pity it isn’t racist. Unless telling the truth is racist, of course.

Why do you justify racism? Why do you justify hatred of America and Americans?

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So if FAUX news didn’t run the ad is trump going to refer to them as fake news evil media?

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So anyone see Trump's comments to reporters a few days ago? He suddenly started talking about a tax cut for the middle class, about 10%, that the GOP was going to push through before the elections. The reporter told him Congress wouldn't be back in session until after, and no one had mentioned anything about a middle class tax cut.

He literally looked into the camera on the spot and made up a GOP tax cut to try to get votes.

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I agree. Pity it isn’t racist. Unless telling the truth is racist, of course.

The ad wasn't telling the truth, so your analysis is utterly incorrect.

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Exactly. Racist bigotry is most definitely off message.

In what way was the video a lie?

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In what way was the video a lie?

Well first, it claims that a guy that the Republicans let stay in the country was let to stay by the Democrats, when it was the American-hating Republican party.

And then it shows a bunch of videos, without any explanation of where the videos were shot, and implications that these were off-whites trying to enter America.

In what way wasn't the video a lie?

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Fox News must be a liberal leftie channel now, I guess. Right wingers love being racist - they just hate being called on it.

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Well first, it claims that a guy that the Republicans let stay in the country was let to stay by the Democrats, when it was the American-hating Republican party.

Okay, so pull the video. Wait, Fox already did.

And then it shows a bunch of videos, without any explanation of where the videos were shot, and implications that these were off-whites trying to enter America.

Well, this is just common knowledge. The world and his dog would move to the US if they could.

Why, in the church of liberalism, is racism considered a kind of original sin amongst white folk, while brown folk are considered to be victims in perpetuity?

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"A lot of things are offensive. Your questions are offensive."

I know you are but what am I? I know you are but what am I? I know you are but what am I?

Dear Americans, this is the level of debate from your current leadership. Please vote for something better.

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The ad wasn't racist. It was anti-illegal immigrant and simplified to tie into the thousands on the way to the USA.

It was both Dems and Repubs who 'let him into the country', and Republicans who 'let him stay'.

Republicans want to secure the border by changing the immigration laws.

Democrats are fighting against that and have been for decades.

That means Democrats let him in. Oddly, I saw a video from President Clinton where he sounded just like a Republican on illegal immigration. What changed inside the democratic party?

Last month I asked for the democratic plan to address illegal immigration. Nobody could find one and link to it?

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It's nice to know that even Fox "News" has a line it returns back to after crossing. And it shows the degree of racist bigotry that this administration holds - their ad was even too racist for Fox "News"! That's straight up KKK level we're talking here. Burning crosses on people's lawns-level racistm.

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OK everyone, take a deep breath. First of all, Mexicans are not a race (they are a nationality made up of various peoples), so mentioning Mexicans in an ad cannot by definition be racist. Perhaps people who think that it's racist are actually seeing a reflection of their own biases and prejudices.

It does, however, give Democrats and their supporters another reason to cry if they don't carry the day tomorrow.

The fact that the ad is being talked about makes it effective, especially since immigration is one of the key issues in the election.

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That's straight up KKK level we're talking here. Burning crosses on people's lawns-level racistm.

Control yourself, man! We’re never going back to those bad old days.

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Well, this is just common knowledge. The world and his dog would move to the US if they could.

For poor people, yeah of course. Their own countries are already dumps, but at least America has a lot of money. But for people who have the money and freedom to move where we want? No thanks. We prefer to move up, not down. For me personally, it's been an issue, as setting up a base in the US would be extremely beneficial for my business, but I just can't stomach the idea of living there for the year it will take to get things moving. I strongly considered it, but in the end I couldn't get past the negative points about the country. For this reason, we're considering both Vancouver and Toronto right now, as they will put us into the correct time zone.

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Trump is being jumped upon simply because he is not on message.

If the message is "I'm not a racist douche" then you, sir, are correct.

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Trump is being jumped upon simply because he is not on message. While the liberal media and Twitterati regard certain kinds of speech utterly unforgivable (in the case that the speaker/writer is a pale-skinned), yet are prepared to overlook industrial scale rapes / honour killings / FGM ( in the case that the perpetrator is brown-skinned), Trump will remain relevant.

You're expecting too much from liberals.

The ad wasn't racist. It was anti-illegal immigrant and simplified to tie into the thousands on the way to the USA.

The GOP want legal immigration, but if they don't want illegal entry into our sovereign, then they are racists.

Yeah, makes a lot of sense.

Last month I asked for the democratic plan to address illegal immigration. Nobody could find one and link to it?

Impeachment hearings, income redistribution, raising taxes up to 40% increasing healthcare premiums, keeping the borders open and letting everyone in regardless if they are vetted properly or not and making sure people can't use straws.

That's pretty much the Democrat Plan in a nutshell.

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OK everyone, take a deep breath. First of all, Mexicans are not a race

I love this! "They can't technically call us racists, because Mexicans are not a race. So discriminating against them is ok since we can claim'but they're not a race!'".

Seems legit.

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Control yourself, man! We’re never going back to those bad old days.

Of course not - we have better technology. Why burn a literal cross on someone's lawn where only the people who drive by will see it, when you can burn virtual crosses all over twitter and whichever news organizations will spread your fake news, and millions can see it!

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For me personally, it's been an issue, as setting up a base in the US would be extremely beneficial for my business, but I just can't stomach the idea of living there for the year it will take to get things moving. I strongly considered it, but in the end I couldn't get past the negative points about the country. For this reason, we're considering both Vancouver and Toronto right now, as they will put us into the correct time zone.

Unless my business was buying and selling weed, I think I’d take my chances in the US.

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Unless my business was buying and selling weed, I think I’d take my chances in the US.

But then I'd have to live in America.

I just couldn't get past that glaring fact.

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The KKK are a spent force in American politics. They number somewhere south of 5,000 people altogether. Why do they still create such hysteria among certain people? They are a joke, and an old one at that. So allusions to cross burning and the like are nothing more than fear mongering, a scare tactic at best and cynical political nonsense at worst.

The US is among the least racist countries on earth. Hard truth for some to swallow, but true nonetheless. The idea that the GOP wants a "white country", whatever that means, is only a reflection of the other side's true feelings and deathgrip on the concept of identity politics.

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The man in the ad Luis Bracamontes entered the country three times, he was deported twice. He came back during the Bush administration and stayed. He was married in 2002 and lived in both Arizona and Utah. Bracamontes lived in the US for 13 years before the killings in 2014. 

Despite repeated drug offenses and being in the country without any documentation, trump's buddy and recipient of a presidential pardon Joe Arpaio released Bracamontes “for reasons unknown.” So trump is indirectly responsible for the person he's using against Democrats.

https://politicalwire.com/2018/11/02/cop-killer-in-trump-video-was-released-by-sheriff-joe/

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Understood, Atilla, but 2018 was a year defined by mass shootings across the US, from the high school in Parkland to the Pittsburgh synagogue - the vast majority carried out by angry white men. Yet Trump chooses to focus on an immigrant whose crime was, in all aspects, a tiny drop in the bucket of American blood.

"Mexican" is no more race than is "American," but this is not distinguished by most Americans. The ad is a piece of propaganda cleverly designed to combine xenophobia and explain away America's problem with guns.

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Strangerland; the idea that Mexicans are discriminated against is ludicrous. First of all, almost every president of Mexico in the past 30 years was educated in the United States, most often at Yale I believe. Second, Mexicans are the largest single national group for LEGAL immigrants and naturalized citizens and have been for decades. Hardly what one would expect from a "racist" country...

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Strangerland; the idea that Mexicans are discriminated against is ludicrous.

Hmm once again you people seem to think that because you want to pretend that reality doesn't exist, somehow we're just going to go along with your delusions.

First of all, almost every president of Mexico in the past 30 years was educated in the United States

A fact which does not have anything to do with your assertion, much less support it.

Mexicans are the largest single national group for LEGAL immigrants and naturalized citizens and have been for decades.

And again,a fact which does not have anything to do with your assertion, much less support it.

Hardly what one would expect from a "racist" country...

Say what? It's entirely in line with what one should expect from racist countries, if one is living in the real world and not stating assumptions as if they were truth.

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OK then, show me some discrimination. Show me where Mexicans aren't allowed to stay, to eat, to work, to get medical care, etc. Then I may take your claim more seriously.

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The GOP can't win without gerrymandering, voter supression and racism. Nobody honest wants them in power.

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OK then, show me some discrimination. Show me where Mexicans aren't allowed to stay, to eat, to work, to get medical care, etc. Then I may take your claim more seriously.

This isn't how racism works. Let's have a little intellectual honesty.

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OK Chipstar, please tell me "how racism works". I'm genuinely curious.

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The GOP can't win without gerrymandering, voter supression and racism. Nobody honest wants them in power.

Democrats can't win without registering illegals like in California and other States and no one wants that kind of deceptive party in power, if they can't do it fairly and Hispanic have a very low turnout in midterms historically, then they have to try a different way. By the way, where is that caravan again?

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OK Chipstar, please tell me "how racism works". I'm genuinely curious.

Engaging in prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. For instance, linking all undocumented immigrants that aren't white with crime.

Notice Trump's add didn't have any white undocumented immigrants that have committed crime? Notice that Trump's and his follower's negative rhetoric is never directed at white undocumented immigrants?

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Democrats can't win without registering illegals like in California and other States and no one wants that kind of deceptive party in power,

Look, another trite falsehoods constantly pushed by Trump supporters. These are the people we definitely want in power.

if they can't do it fairly and Hispanic have a very low turnout in midterms historically, then they have to try a different way. By the way, where is that caravan again?

That caravan is still in Mexico. What's the relevancy of your question?

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Democrats can't win without registering illegals like in California 

It’s ironic when the GOP just admitted they have signed on 3 million illegals across the 50 states in order to sway the votes in their direction.

And yer you give that a total pass. Typical republican.

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That caravan is still in Mexico. 

It's still coming.

It’s ironic when the Democrats just admitted they have signed on 3 million illegals across the 50 states in order to sway the votes in their direction. 

And yer you give that a total pass. Typical republican.

No, I don't.

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Considering that something like only 6% of illegal immigrants come from Canada or Europe (and more than 75% from south/central America), it shouldn't be surprising that illegals are portrayed the way they are.

As for your description of racism, it closely parallels mine. "Engaging in...." must obviously lead to some concrete actions or results that can be measured. Which is why I ask what actually those results are.

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Why do liberals think they can pick and choose which laws to follow?

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Seems like the GOP is planning to pin their defeat on "illegal voting." Pathetic. I've failed often in my life, as do all, and when I do, I reflect. Causes exist. Scapegoats are for cowards and charlatans.

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I think the GOP will lose too frankly. I pin it on historical trends (most presidents' parties take a beating in their first midterm election), Trump's natural ability to antagonize people, and the Belgians.

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Seems like the GOP is planning to pin their defeat on "illegal voting." Pathetic.

And if the Democrats lose it will be because they are so out of control and keep using fear, race and identity politics to scare and intimidate voters.

I've failed often in my life, as do all, and when I do, I reflect. Causes exist. Scapegoats are for cowards and charlatans.

Oh, I agree totally with that.

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And yer you give that a total pass. Typical republican.

No, I don't.

Say what? You, from the other thread:

I give this one a pass.

I respect that you have given up on even trying to pretend you are consistent. It takes guts to just allow for everyone to see your hyper-partisanship for what it is, especially when you used to try to pretend it wasn't. Good on you for accepting your true self and coming out to the world.

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Seems like the GOP is planning to pin their defeat on "illegal voting." Pathetic. I've failed often in my life, as do all, and when I do, I reflect. Causes exist. Scapegoats are for cowards and charlatans.

Yeah, they've given up on the concept of taking responsibility. If the last two decades have shown, they will blame everyone and anyone other than themselves.

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Fox pulling a Republican Ad for being racist is like Playboy pullings its centerfold for being racy.

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Fox pulling a Republican Ad for being racist is like Playboy pullings its centerfold for being racy.

Well, it looks more like Playboy pulling the centerfold because it's of a Hustler caliber.

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"Racist" - Generally that means "fact" - The Left or Democrat supporters cant debate, fight or counter is when the words like racist are pulled out.

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I don't think Republicans hate America. I think they are very American. The Democrats want to be European. The Republicans are what America is, a renegade political party. That is America. Just remember how America was born. Most Americans don't want politics in their life. The Democrats world revolves around Government interfering in as much of your life as possible.

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Considering that something like only 6% of illegal immigrants come from Canada or Europe (and more than 75% from south/central America), it shouldn't be surprising that illegals are portrayed the way they are. 

No, it's not surprising that conservatives use stereotypes to describe undocumented immigrants. That, however, does nothing to refute my point about Trump's as being racist.

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illegal aliens should stay illegal.

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@yakyak The Democrats want to be European.

I've read several posters say that same thing and have no idea what it could mean. Is it a new meme started by RT, infowars, Breitbart, Fox 'news' or some other rightist media in an attempt to appeal to the poorly educated segment of Trump's base by saying Democrats are foreign, i.e. not American in some way?

The Republicans are what America is, a renegade political party. 

The Republicans are and have long been the party of, by and for America's wealthiest; they comprise America's ruling class elite. It's like saying Putin's All-Russia People's Front or China's Communist Party of China is a renegade political party.

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LagunaToday 07:26 am JSTAt a rally, Trump said

Where are the Bikers for Trump? Where are the police? Where are the military? Where are — ICE? Where are the border patrol? No. We’ve taken a lot, we’ve taken a lot.

He's conflating there his own paramilitary - Bikers for Trump - with supposedly non-partisan branches of the government, as if they were his toys (in the spirit of "my generals").

Two takeaways: Trump does not understand the Constitution; and Trump is truly panicked.

In Mussolini's Italy they were called Black Shirts or 'fascisti'. In Haiti during the Duvalier era they were called tonton Macoutes and later Les Leopards. Other fascist regimes had other names.

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Republicans own all the important issues: lower taxes, better economy, more jobs, plus possible breakthroughs with the despots who run Iran and North Korea.

All the Democrats have in 2018 is, "We're going to impeach Donald Trump. Then we'll raise your taxes."

They look like fools running on that platform.

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By reading the comments on this and other threads, it becomes a bit obvious who wants to talk issues and who wants to spout insults. I see a lot of deliberately divisive rhetoric- fascist, dishonest, ignorant, concentration camp, which makes it difficult to have anything resembling a substantive discussion. At least be clever and/or original when you drop the discussion to this level, folks! Otherwise, I'll go hang around Huffpost or Infowars for my daily dose of childish invective...

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They purposely created an advert so toxic that they knew would be rejected. They then claimed censorship by the "fake" news media. In fact, not even Fox/state tv ran the advert, given its crudity. That NBC did is disgraceful and will probably lose them advertisers.

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Bass: Democrats can't win without registering illegals like in California 

Is this the driver’s license thing? We’ve been over this. It’s disinformation. I even pasted in the law itself and a direct link to it.

Republicans have never, under any circumstances, shown any evidence of widespread voter fraud, and the tiny number of cases they have found have been shown to be over things like confusion or ignorance.

You have no direct, supporting evidence in any way.

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Trump headed to . . . . Missouri at the end of a six-day pre-election sweep -- article

An absoluely GREAT wrap up campaign stop by President Trump in Cape Girardeau tonight. Seismologists must have issued an earthquake alert for that part of the state.

But to be fair, Obama did hand out doughnuts at his "rally' held in a tiny room in Va. that was attended by more media lap dogs than actual supporters of the ex-president. 44's days of drawing Berlin-type crowds are now behind him.

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This is how Trump sees anything. If it works for him, it's OK, no matter how immoral or divisive. -- comment

If President Trump is "divisive", then what are the democrats?

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But to be fair, Obama did hand out doughnuts at his "rally' held in a tiny room in Va. that was attended by more media lap dogs than actual supporters of the ex-president. 44's days of drawing Berlin-type crowds are now behind him.

Let's see how honest the above statement is in comparing one of Trump's planned in advanced rallies to Obama's:

Former President Barack Obama made a surprise appearance in Northern Virginia Monday to rally supporters for Sen. Tim Kaine and state Sen. Jennifer Wexton on the eve of Election Day, part of a series of stops during the past week to help Democrats win control of at least the House.

Exactly the amount of honesty we've come to expect from our conservative friends: very little.

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By reading the comments on this and other threads, it becomes a bit obvious who wants to talk issues and who wants to spout insults. I see a lot of deliberately divisive rhetoric- fascist, dishonest, ignorant, concentration camp, which makes it difficult to have anything resembling a substantive discussion. 

Conservatives sure love to whine when liberals use their tactics against them.

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Fox News pulled the ad? But I thought that they were President Trump's mouthpiece. Is Trump in trouble?

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Hello Mr. Chips; Not whining, just observing. And yes, some people from the migi side of things are generous with their adjectives, no question. However, scanning this particular discussion will show otherwise. The avalanche of "Trump is a (insert ad hom attack)", fascism is coming, the world is ending, black people will be put back in chains, kind of scaremongering comes from one side exclusively.

Perhaps this is because the GOP generally wins on the issues. The economy is humming along, consumer confidence is high, the markets are great, employment is up, minorities are reaping the benefits as well, trade deals are being signed, no new wars are being fought, none of these issues appear on the Democrats' collective radar. Instead they rely on the politics of personal destruction and virtue signalling as substitutes for mature discussion.

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Heh, even Fox. Wow.

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Dang!!

This is really exciting. Never ever saw midterms so amped up like this. Reminds me of 2016 all over again. Both parties are going full throttle...... we will all be watching closely!

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Is this the driver’s license thing? We’ve been over this. It’s disinformation. I even pasted in the law itself and a direct link to it.

No, I posted it as well and as a lifelong Californian, I know for a fact that this is happening.

Republicans have never, under any circumstances, shown any evidence of widespread voter fraud,

And the Democrats have not shown that there is, because they are adamant about implementing voter IDs because they know their jig would be up. They’re perfectly ok with IDs for everything under the sun, just not for voting and the race play card doesn’t work anymore. If they really wanted to shut up the Republicans they would go with implementing voter IDs and could own the issue, but they won’t because they can’t make any rational argument to justify it.

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Thank God, Jerry Brown will be gone soon, the worst thing to happen to that great State since Newsom....oh...

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No, I posted it as well and as a lifelong Californian, I know for a fact that this is happening.

WRONG!

I am also a lifelong Californian. I lived there for 50 years before coming to Japan. All my friends and family are there and all of us know for a fact this is not happening. It's a lie that is always reported by Hannity. It is 100% false.

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No, I posted it as well and as a lifelong Californian, I know for a fact that this is happening.

How many times must one be told that personal anecdotes are not sound evidence in critical discourse?

And the Democrats have not shown that there is, because they are adamant about implementing voter IDs because they know their jig would be up. They’re perfectly ok with IDs for everything under the sun, just not for voting and the race play card doesn’t work anymore. If they really wanted to shut up the Republicans they would go with implementing voter IDs and could own the issue, but they won’t because they can’t make any rational argument to justify it.

Nope. If one cared to get out of the airtight bubble that is depriving one of oxygen to do some research, one would know there are rational arguments against voter ID:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/voter-id-law-algorithm/amp

https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

https://www.lwvnm.org/Positions/voter-id.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/517218/

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once the ad was aired, there's no way to undo its effects. one can not put toothpaste back in the tube. the bigotry is in the bloodstream and it's spreading to all of the vital organs.

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Who would have thought Trump was a racist...news to me...watch his base of crackpots scream voter fraud if they lose the house or the senate....if your lucky you might even get the freak in basement doing his youtube thing...

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Why do liberals think they can pick and choose which laws to follow?

Putting up racist ads full of lies should be illegal, for starters.

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Everyone is butt-hurt about this ad. Who cares. I remember the democrats were kicking & screaming when Trump campaign aired the perverted “Anthony Wiener “ ad just before the election.

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Everyone is butt-hurt about this ad. Who cares.

People care about racism and blatant lies.

America has not succumbed to Goebbels-style propaganda about "outsiders" and "enemies of the state".

Not yet, at any rate.

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Is there any other Republican that is racist? Oh my . . .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-steve-king-makes-bigoted-015307162.html

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@northernl watch his base of crackpots scream voter fraud if they lose the house or the senate...

Voter fraud, China, the media, the deep state, HillaryObamalibsleftdems, some plot from whatever group of 'sinister' others Trump tells them to point fingers of blame at. Trump, like despots before him. canNOT take responsibility for problems created

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"There's only one explanation for that: Donald Trump. He's fundamentally changed how people are following politics."

And in a really, really negative way, although none of his supporters here seem to realize it.

To all you Dems who'll be voting in today's midterms, best of luck, people.

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A new campaign slogan could be “TRUMP - too toxic for Fox”

By 2020, David Duke will be telling him to dial it down.

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When even Fox News thinks it is, then add everything to the left of them - that's already most of America

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Speak up!

"Donald, please lie to me!"

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When Trump said MS13 were “animals “ the democrats twisted his words to mean all illegal immigrants are animals. Then the media ran with it.......

Just more fake news. & MS13 are animals. To say otherwise is of low intelligence.

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THE PRESIDENT: We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we’re stopping a lot of them — but we’re taking people out of the country. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals. And we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It’s crazy.

Yeah, those words were really twisted.

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something the Democrats are unwilling to cooperate with the president on.

The Democrats? Reagan is the one who inked millions green card amnesty. The Republicans are letting them in by the millions

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This past weekend, the MSM Powers That Be sent out the word to all the Sunday talk shows to gaslight President Trump into stop talking about the illegal alien issue by challenging him to focus on addressing the robust economy he personally created (they exposed themselves as not listening to any of his campaign rallies where he always highlighted America"s massive economic growth in less than two years). One after another, all the Sunday morning round table talking heads were nodding in bovine agreement that President Trump's economic strategy was indeed good for America.

What's important to realize is that up until then, the MSM ignored all things President Trumpnomics. Our president trolled them by hammering the southern border issue so hard that they were finally forced to acknowledge our robust economic growth. Whether they realized it or not, Sunday, the MSM became nationalists, too.

Well played, Mr. President. Well played.

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When Trump said MS13 were “animals “ the democrats twisted his words to mean all illegal immigrants are animals. Then the media ran with it.......

Nah. John Oliver said it best. To the Republicans, people who cross the border ‘illegally’ are criminals. Criminals are animals. Animals are dangerous, and therefore the caravans are dangerous animals. It’s cyclic logic - the logic uses its assertions to support its outcomes, and users its outcomes to justify its assertions.

Its a clear failure in logic, however it does require a level of intelligence to understand why - and anyone still supporting Trump clearly lacks the intellectual ability for that comprehension. Which leaves us in a real pickle.

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Nope. If one cared to get out of the airtight bubble that is depriving one of oxygen to do some research, one would know there are rational arguments against voter ID:

Sorry, but that dog don’t hunt...

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/08/30/brown-could-sign-law-to-let-non-citizens-serve-on-public-boards-and-commissions-in-california/

https://nypost.com/2018/04/05/california-gave-drivers-licenses-to-1-million-illegal-immigrants/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/26/republicans-undocumented-immigrants-voting-812443

vote Red tomorrow if you care about securing the border and an end to this madness. Come up with policies that secure the border, end chain migration, end the Visa lottery and wait in line like everyone and come in legally, that’s the best way for everyone.

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Texas A&M AggieToday  06:25 pm JST

This past weekend, the MSM Powers

Is the definition below how you'd define the 'MSM'? So soon after innocents worshipping at a synagogue were slaughtered by an alt right, white supremacist?

Since the mainstream media (also abbreviated to MSM) isn't filled with fellow neo-Nazis spouting the alt-right's conspiracy theories and talking points, they are clearly an enemy of the West and must be brought down! Funnily enough, Fox News isn't typically lumped in with the mainstream media, in spite of them being one of the largest news companies in the world. This shows that it is politics, not actually size, that indicates whether or not you are a part of the mainstream media. The mainstream media is also the subject of conspiracy theories such as being controlled by the Jews

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alt-right_glossary

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Trump tells Hannity his final message to midterm voters

I would have thought the Trumpets wouldn't dare mention Hannity and Donny in the same sentence, considering both were caught with their boxers down 'real estate consulting' with Cohen.

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Trump tells Hannity his final message to midterm voters

A non-existent sex tape and a yearly subscription to the National Enquirer should be awarded to anyone who can come up with a less enticing introduction to a link.

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vote Red tomorrow if you care about securing the border and an end to this madness.

...and especially if you like separating families, locking up children, and using lethal force on innocent migrants...

Come up with policies that secure the border,

Like that beautiful wall Mexico built for us - haven't you seen it?

end chain migration,

Like Melania's Mom and Dad...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/nyregion/melania-trumps-parents-become-us-citizens.html

end the Visa lottery and wait in line like everyone and come in legally, that’s the best way for everyone.

...everyone with brown skin, if you're white, doors open - come on in...

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“What's entertaining is that conservatives still don't understand that liberals are against entering the US without documents while also being against dehumanizing people”

Right on good point. Not all of them are MS13 or criminals. They probably want to work & raise a family. Send money back to Honduras etc.

But why should they be given special dispensation? No short-cuts. Get to the back of the line. Enter the US lawfully, not just storm our border.

The Chinese, Koreans and southeast Asians “legally” emigrated into the US.

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Wc62sixToday  07:02 pm JST

The Chinese, Koreans and southeast Asians “legally” emigrated into the US.

Do you still have problems with them, too? You used to lump all non-Europids together as 'others', as negative forces affecting life in Orange County.

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This past weekend, the MSM Powers That Be sent out the word to all the Sunday talk shows to gaslight President Trump into stop talking about the illegal alien issue by challenging him to focus on addressing the robust economy he personally created (they exposed themselves as not listening to any of his campaign rallies where he always highlighted America"s massive economic growth in less than two years). One after another, all the Sunday morning round table talking heads were nodding in bovine agreement that President Trump's economic strategy was indeed good for America.

What's important to realize is that up until then, the MSM ignored all things President Trumpnomics. Our president trolled them by hammering the southern border issue so hard that they were finally forced to acknowledge our robust economic growth. Whether they realized it or not, Sunday, the MSM became nationalists, too.

Fox Mulder agrees with you - it's all the fault of the cigarette smoking man.....

Well played, Mr. President. Well played.

Russian oligarchs to Putin after the 2016 election....

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'Racist' Trump ad pulled from air as campaigns rush to uncertain end - Headlines

It will take years to end political correctness as de rigueur criteria for public discourse and civility. Let's put the country first, any country, for its citizens and its own people. As in Japan, Australia, and perhaps sooner than later, the U.S.A.

It's crunch time!

May the winners work for a better America and work with President Trump.

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“Hahahaha! All of them?”

Most of them. And they’re well educated and obey the law. Most illegals from Mexico / Central American often commit crimes. Get deported and come back. It’s ridiculous.

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bass: No, I posted it as well and as a lifelong Californian, I know for a fact that this is happening.

You will never be able to produce any evidence to support your claim other than your feelings.

https://nypost.com/2018/04/05/california-gave-drivers-licenses-to-1-million-illegal-immigrants/

This article says Californai gives driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. It says nothing about voting.

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/08/30/brown-could-sign-law-to-let-non-citizens-serve-on-public-boards-and-commissions-in-california/

This article talks about non-citizens being allowed to participate on things like the Board of Registered Nursing. It says nothing about voting.

https://www.investors.com/partner-perspective/7-ways-bond-investors-benefit-from-the-digital-revolution/

An article quoting one guy who said "millions probably did vote" without a single shred of evidence other than "ther are millions of them so some must have voted."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/26/republicans-undocumented-immigrants-voting-812443

This article talks about illegals in San Francisco being allowed to participate in school board elections. I'm sure that made a huge dent in presidential elections, huh.

The reason you are giving me "almost evidence" is because real evidence does not exist. You took the time to paste in 4 articles and 3 of them don't even mention elections other than school boards. You were duped into believing a lie and now you've been reduced to "trust me" statements that carry no weight, as any journalist would know.

You are simply fighting on the wrong side of the trust because you think it helps your party. The end.

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You will never be able to produce any evidence to support your claim other than your feelings.

I already did. If you choose not to accept what everyone knows who lives in my State it’s not my fault.

This article says Californai gives driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. It says nothing about voting.

Seriously? So you think just because they can get drivers license, they wouldn’t take advantage to vote? Idiots like Jerry Brown who already said were allowed to vote, they wouldn’t jump on the chance, oh please!

https://fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-us-elections

This article talks about illegals in San Francisco being allowed to participate in school board elections.

Which they shouldn’t.

I'm sure that made a huge dent in presidential elections, huh.

Not sure, when they’re illegal, it’s hard to keep track, all the more reason why it is important to have order ID, you meet my argument for me.

The reason you are giving me "almost evidence"

Which is evidence enough.

You are simply fighting on the wrong side of the trust because you think it helps your party. The end.

And the same can be said about you guys as well, the end.

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I already did. If you choose not to accept what everyone knows who lives in my State

It's my state too. I lived in California for 50 years and I know it's 100% not true.

Which is evidence enough.

There is no evidence. I should know. I lived there for 50 years. I mean who can say that they lived in California for 50 years like I have?

Yes, but this time, families won’t be separated, they’ll all be together.

Which means more illegals thanks to Trump.

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Bass you have never shown any evidence of illegals being allowed to vote in California with driver's licenses because none exists. Your entire case is built on your feelings with supporting evidence of "trust me." Come back when you have something.

Moving on.

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The voting has started, let's let the process play out. Instead, put yourself on the line with your prediction of the outcome!

Senate: 54-46 for GOP

House: 220-215 for Democrats, sadly. Hope it is the other way around, but...

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