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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2018.World leaders welcome planned talks between Trump and N Korean leader
By Christine Kim and Jeff Mason SEOUL/WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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cla68
President Trump continues to confound globalists and their allies in the corporate media.
CrazyJoe
The President of the United States - following in the wise and measured steps of Dennis Rodman. What could possibly go wrong?
One thing that Kim and Trump have in common is not keeping their word. With Kim it's a family tradition. For Trump it's a core principle.
bass4funk
Nonesense. Trump kept every bit of his word that NK would be wiped off the planet if they continue down this dangerous path and at least his get tough approach got SK to the table, a position of strength, not blinking and not weakness and even the S Koreans were thankful of Trump’s pressure of the regime and as long as they make meaningful concessions down the road, we can take the next critical steps. Good on the President.
PTownsend
I hope the meeting happens and steps are taken to reduce the tensions. But the language chosen by the WH for Trump to say, i.e. 'is being planned', leaves lots of room for ducking out.
Could you explain how Trump's not a 'globalist'? And is this what you mean by using that word?
Are you using 'corporate media' in the same way you've used MSM?
Are you suggesting that because Trump and Putin claim to be Christians that they're not globalists? What word are rightists and evangelicals using to describe the Trump and/or Putin faction of global 'powers'?
Tommy Jones
Not quite, Champ. The DPRK has developed nuclear weapons and delivery systems capable of reaching the US and is still on the planet. Odd how that continued after Trump came into office and told us it wouldn't happen.
Tommy Jones
Need help patting yourself on the back? I'd hate for you to hurt your arm.
Oh, where are your cites that Trump's bosses told him to cut a deal and refocus on Iran? Who are Trump's bosses?
ZvonkoJonathan
to disarm would mean a suicide, look at American specially Trump camp, they all want to be armed to their teeth because as they say being disarmed is the guarantee to lose freedom. If NK does disarm they are toast. There will be an American/south Korean organized "uprising" by "civilians" and regime will be bombed to protect those "Civilians" Just like the Libya and Syria where the foreign mercenaries "civilians" started the insurrection. Since Kim is used to western ways and luxuries maybe he does not mind the surrender but he will not live long enough to be allowed any benefits of it. By the rules of the American imperial game top man and all of his family have to be killed as well as their close allies and friends.
PTownsend
According to @rBush, cla68 (same people?) and several US rightists and evangelicals posting on this site Trump's 'bosses' are members of a 'cabal' they call 'globalists', which seems to be used as a code word for a certain non-Christian group long associated with financing. Putin and Trump, in my mind, are both globalists, but are not called that by their followers, maybe because each claims to be Christian.
Laguna
So Spokeswoman Sanders says
and is immediately undercut by an unnamed White House official
Thus, the current White House position is ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Sanders was likely stating the (alarmed) position of the vast number of American non-presidents that Trump is trading America's Golden Egg for nada. Trump likely saw this and, enraged, dispatched the official to correct her.
Tightly-run ship, the Trump White House is.
elephant200
Trump desire to get a Nobel peace prize honour maybe? First he is getting nervous with the scandal against him.Second he wants to beat his processor Obama! Both things he cant let go!
Strangerland
Logic failure there. You didn't think that one through did you.
quercetum
In the Clinton years, NK agreed to a freeze then it was found out - actually they told the world - that had a secret program.
In the Bush years, with China, Russia, the US, South Korea, Japan, NK agreed to abandon its program but later breaks promise.
In the Obama years, Kim elder dies, youngest son takes over and continues development.
In Trump’s first year, missles tested. Trajectory shows capability of reaching North America.
In the 2018 Winter Olympics, Kim sends sister to SK.
SK sends emissaries to NK. Emissaries then goes to Washington conveying Kim’s desire to talk. POTUS agreed.
Now you tell know me who is in control here. This meeting should not take place in Pyongyang, but Trump will probably like the attention in going there or the demilitarized zone in NK-SK.
It needs to be in a neutral place ala Reagan Gorbachev. Beijng? Any ideas?
bass4funk
Well, if Trump can get them to denuclearize it would be a big step, I’m hopeful but pessimistic, now the ball is in Kim’s court, if he’s serious, he will unconditionally take that step, if he doesn’t, Trump walks away and we are back where we started. Trump would be a complete fool if he gave NK concessions without getting anything in return which is what the last 3 Presidents got...nothing except for an nuclearized NK.
Halwick
Beijing a neutral place? Worse than Pyongyang. The Chinese would pressure Trump to appease while encouraging Kim to press for appeasement.
How about Okinawa or Hiroshima? Both places are symbolic of the horrors of war and inspiration for Peace. Something to remind Kim if he doesn't agree to denuclearization.
Even if he is thinking about it, he will never get it. If a denuclearization agreement is achieved, the Nobel Peace Prize Committee will award its Prize to Kim Jong-Un.
WE know Kim won't agree to denuclearization without major concessions from the U.S., i.e., withdrawal of the U.S. military forces in the Peninsula, demilitarization of the DMZ border, unification of Koreas under DPRK regime. Yes, Trump would be a complete fool if he were to agree to these kinds of concessions.
But the world leftists/pacifists and the Democrats will pressure him to offer concession carrots to "encourage" Kim to denuclearize.....anything to get PEACE, PEACE, PEACE!
Tommy Jones
This:
does nothing to refute this:
So, we are left with my original assertion that this is false:
Trump didn't keep his word because the DPRK continued to perfect their nuclear and delivery capabilities under him.
Tommy Jones
Almost anything to get PEACE, PEACE, PEACE. Of course.
Toasted Heretic
Better than WAR, WAR, WAR.
bass4funk
No, he kept his in that, he was able to push hard and keep the sanctions on them and the fact that the NK can either give up and denuclearize or they get nothing, in fact, if they decide to renege on their word and continue down this path and think they can pull a fast one, Trump wouldn’t hesitate to use military force, but if the NK think that they want peace and get something in return namely all US forces leave the Korean Peninsula, they are really out of their minds. They can just scratch that off from the bat.
Tommy Jones
Then why didn't you say that instead of this:
?
Tommy Jones
Just two sentences. Wow. Trump has already hesitated to use military force in September last year after the DPRK detonated a thermonuclear device. Not to mention after every missile launch.
If the DPRK, US, and ROK sign a peace treaty ending the Korean War and the DPRK scraps it's nukes, why would the US need troops in South Korea?