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Turkey pushes offensive in Syria, despite sanctions and calls to stop

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Some screw-ups are impossible to fix, and this is one of them. Trump gave away the farm without a peep and the people who took it aren't going to hand it back.

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Well Trump ripped off a band-aid, except they unlike ripping off a band-aid lots of people died and it will have consequences for years to come.

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Erdogan has Trump just where he wants him (over a fat barrel of corruption stuffed with Trump Towers and Turkish Delight). Your move, Donny Boy!

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Putin 1 Trump 0

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Putin 9000, Trump 0.

All your base are belong to us!

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Erdogan is a despicable little guy, same as the guy in NK, same as the guy in China. The sooner these guys are taken down the better for the people although sadly, most of them have already been brainwashed to a point of no return.

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Erdogan won't stop until he has murdered all the Kurds.

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No doubt this was all planned beforehand by Trump, Putin and Erdogan. Donnie told Vlad and Erd that he'll get pushback from the Repubs in the Senate, so he'll put some weak, feeble sanctions on to make it look like he's doing something.

Erd goes full in and with his credibility on the line won't stop until the Kurds are all gone.

The new Kingmaker in the Middle East, Vlad, is now visiting the area.

Trump sold out the Kurds and he sold out America...which is what he's been doing since 17 Jan 2017...

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When speaking of the Turks, now is a good time to remember the Armenian genocide. They haven't changed in 100 years.

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@Norman Goodman, when speaking about Armenian genocide, we should talk about the role of Kurds whom is the predominant population on the region that Armenians left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidiye_(cavalry)

Mainly Sunni Kurdish cavalries that made actions such as mass murder, deportation and looting, their main motivation was to own the lands that Armenians left.

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This is called "Stab In The Back" ! The world should remember when you are volunteer being the puppet or mercenary of Uncle Sam, you should expect your doomsday is near! The Kurds were dreaming their "Kurdistan" or Kurdish state for sacrificing two generations of people since 1991 the uprising against Saddam!

And now this is the Turks who were manning US made tanks and warplanes bulldozing the fragile  Kurdish state! This is nothing new, remember the "Republic of Vietnam" (South Vietnam) in 1975? Some people just don't learn from history and they were not a few nut a whole group of people! The Kurds deserve this, their pay back time, a sudden death warren signed by Donald Trump!

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No doubt this was all planned beforehand

Why is there no doubt? There has been literally nothing to show what yous say is the case. No indication of pre-planning whatsoever. So what makes you think that there is no doubt about this?

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I hope Trump got something good in return for himself.

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No doubt this was all planned beforehand by Trump, Putin and Erdogan.

Riiiiight.

Glad you agree...

Apparently, everything that happens in the world is the result of a secret conspiracy between Trump and Putin.

Pretty much...

And Mueller is in on it too. His investigation that found no collusion was all part of the "Master Plan".

Of course he found collusion - didn't you read the report? Manafort sending polling data to Russian intelligence, Stone communicating with Assange on Russian stolen e-mails, etc., etc.,

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This is called "Stab In The Back" ! The world should remember when you are volunteer being the puppet or mercenary of Uncle Sam, you should expect your doomsday is near! The Kurds were dreaming their "Kurdistan" or Kurdish state for sacrificing two generations of people since 1991 the uprising against Saddam!

And now this is the Turks who were manning US made tanks and warplanes bulldozing the fragile Kurdish state! This is nothing new, remember the "Republic of Vietnam" (South Vietnam) in 1975? Some people just don't learn from history and they were not a few nut a whole group of people! The Kurds deserve this, their pay back time, a sudden death warren signed by Donald Trump!

If it helps, since I've considerable knowledge regarding to the region, I'd like to give some historical/political background about Kurds and clarification to your misleading facts.

There are reasons that Kurds never get able to found a state in the history, the reason is that, they are heavily divided to sects and tribes, such as Shia Kurds that aligned with Iran, Sunni Kurds that aligned with arab sunni / Erdoganist / Muslim Brotherhood movements whether in Iraq or in Syria, Shafi Kurds that aligned with tribes or with IS, Nousairi Kurds that aligned with Assad and Alaouite Kurds that aligned with Ataturk's Turkey or radically aligned with Marxists movements since the cold war. So while calling Kurds, you are making an assumptions that really similar to call all arabs living in Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Bahrain as arabs and considering that they can live together, which is impossible!

Kurdish state that sacrificed his two generations against Saddam in 1991, has its own autonomous state in Iraq, happily sitting on oil-rich Mosul and Kirkuk cities, under the control of Sunni Kurdish Barzani family. Iraqi Kurds are mainly Sunni and never wanted to help to Syrian Kurds or never get involved to the ongoing war.

Shia Kurds continue to support whether Assad and Persians, automatically aligned with the regime force in the Syria war.

The Kurds that now we are talking about in this event, is PYD/SDF terror groups, marxists that has been heavily supported by Obama/Hillary period, and EU left-wing backed fighters, they had created their autonomous state in the city of Kobane, by appling obligatory army duty to civil people. Their Marxist world-view is makes it easy their alignement with Russians in any time in the near future, you can read the name of their organization is Kurdistan Workers Party in between the lines of articles.

As a result, this group that has been supported previously never had a capability to found a country for all Kurds because of their radical perspective, they were useful to fight with a radical group, because they are violent too, but they don't have potential to establish a constitutional state that will fit in world order; that's what U.S know.

There will be Kurdish state in the region but not with these guys.

So here above is the real facts about the region, doesn't contain any internal US politics that hardly can be seen in the media right now.

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Trump's moronic decision to withdraw US troops out of Syria and abandoned the US's traditional ally Kurdish fighters appeared to be the result of the one–on–one Trump–Putin Summit in Helsinki on July 16, 2018. There could be many more disastrous decisions after this. Why has Trump revered Putin so much so that he would do anything to please Putin?

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@Hung nguyen Why has Trump revered Putin so much so that he would do anything to please Putin?

The answer is simple: Trump admires or adores "The Putin style leadership"! The Authoritarian one!

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Manafort sending polling data to Russian intelligence, Stone communicating with Assange on Russian stolen e-mails, etc., etc.,

Yep I've read a lot of the report that's been released, and Mueller alleges lot's of things, but when you dig into most of it, it's all hear say and allegations with no solid evidence, in fact the Russian in question, they can't even find any evidence that he worked for Russian intelligence, it's ALL just he said, they said, and no evidence what so ever, standard State sponsored SOS. Same old S&%T, sprinkled with lot's of Hypocrisy on top for flavor.

However, the US starts wars with the same modus operandi almost always, no evidence just a feeling or fabrication so let's go to War and murder some people, Wash, Rinse and Repeat, our Government and intel sources doing the same old. I can remember half the guys in my barracks going to Vietnam and some not coming home, all based on lies, and nobody impeached the guy that caused close to 60,000 Americans and untold Vietnamese to be murdered, in fact the guy that caused it all got a Presidential Library where worshipers could come in Peace to Worship him.

Until the day comes that the Federal Government stops lying to the people, there should be no American Troops allowed to intervene in another Countries Problems. But, we all know that will never, ever happen.

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Manafort sending polling data to Russian intelligence, Stone communicating with Assange on Russian stolen e-mails, etc., etc.,

Yep I've read a lot of the report that's been released, and Mueller alleges lot's of things, but when you dig into most of it, it's all hear say and allegations with no solid evidence, in fact the Russian in question, they can't even find any evidence that he worked for Russian intelligence, it's ALL just he said, they said, and no evidence what so ever, standard State sponsored SOS. Same old S&%T, sprinkled with lot's of Hypocrisy on top for flavor.

Where did you read your copy of the Mueller Report - Russia Today?

However, the US starts wars with the same modus operandi almost always, no evidence just a feeling or fabrication so let's go to War and murder some people, Wash, Rinse and Repeat, our Government and intel sources doing the same old. I can remember half the guys in my barracks going to Vietnam and some not coming home, all based on lies, and nobody impeached the guy that caused close to 60,000 Americans and untold Vietnamese to be murdered, in fact the guy that caused it all got a Presidential Library where worshipers could come in Peace to Worship him.

Agree - Vietnam was a major mistake. And all the other wars and interventions after that were under a Republican administration - you OK with that?

Until the day comes that the Federal Government stops lying to the people, there should be no American Troops allowed to intervene in another Countries Problems. But, we all know that will never, ever happen.

Putin would agree with your opinion - as he invades and occupies the former Soviet republics...and ultimately Europe.

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Burning Bush: "Finally we'll have peace and stability in Syria."

When? it's less stable than ever now that Trump has unilaterally decided to pull troops. By supporting him and deflecting to criticise his opponents on this (which are also composed of most Republicans, which you forgot are just chose not to know), you support Turkey shooting US soldiers, and committing atrocities, and you support Russia. All this blood is on Trump's hands as well as those who blindly support him. If you disagree with Turkey shooting at US special forces, you side with Democrats and the Republicans who oppose Trump on this. And why hasn't Trump and the Trumpers "destroyed Turkey's economy" yet?

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The Kurds that now we are talking about in this event, is PYD/SDF terror groups, marxists that has been heavily supported by Obama/Hillary period, and EU left-wing backed fighters, they had created their autonomous state in the city of Kobane, by appling obligatory army duty to civil people. Their Marxist world-view is makes it easy their alignement with Russians in any time in the near future, you can read the name of their organization is Kurdistan Workers Party in between the lines of articles.

Most countries have a Workers Party. My own country has one and yes, there's Marxism in the mix, of course. Workers rights are the backbone of Marx's writings, so that's hardly surprising.

Any alignment with Russia will not be down to historical Marxism, as Putin's Russia has no ties to that line of thinking anymore. It will be down to necessity, having been abandoned by the US.

Adopting Marxism, or at least the basic tenets of, does not automatically put one in the terrorist bracket. Just like adopting the basic tenets of capitalism doesn't do the same. Although one could argue that both ideologies have been hijacked countless times and led to conflict.

Politics and wars make strange bedfellows. As is ever the case.

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The US needed and recruited the Kurd. the US gave the Kurds the understanding that one ISIS was defeated they would assist in the establishment of a Kurdish State. Mow they have abandoned the Kurds. The US did the same thing in Afghanistan where they recruited, trained and financed the Taliban to fight Russia with the understanding that they would be supported to establish a Taliban based government and as soon as the Taliban defeated Russia the US installed an Afghan Washington puppet. Fast forward, 11 years of Afghan chaos.

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The Kurds are Israeli allies. So I wonder if the timing of Trump's retreat from Syria is linked to the impeachment witch hunt. Or perhaps linked to Netanyahu's losing of the recent election.

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"You think everything wrong with the world is America's fault."

Do you want a list of the countries the US has invaded or interfered in in the last 70 years? Most, NOT ALL, the deputes in the world have originated by the US trying to dominate economically, politically or militarily.

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"I don't believe that is correct because America does not have the authority for that."

Your right, they don't have the authority.

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Do you want a list of the countries the US has invaded or interfered in in the last 70 years? Most, NOT ALL, the deputes in the world have originated by the US trying to dominate economically, politically or militarily.

You're obsessed with the United Statss. You're anti-American hatred clouds your judgement. All you clod is rant against the US.

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