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Some House Republicans join impeachment push; Pence says he will not move to expel Trump

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By Richard Cowan, Susan Cornwell and David Morgan

With at least five Republicans joining their push to impeach President Donald Trump over the storming of the U.S. Capitol, Democrats in the House of Representatives stood poised for a history-making vote to try to remove the president from office.

With eight days remaining in Trump's term, the House will vote on Wednesday on an article of impeachment accusing the Republican of inciting insurrection in a speech to his followers last week before a mob of them stormed the Capitol, leaving five dead.

That would trigger a trial in the still Republican-controlled Senate, although it was unclear whether enough time or political appetite remained to expel Trump.

Democrats moved forward on an impeachment vote after a effort to persuade Vice President Mike Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution to remove Trump was rejected by Pence on Tuesday evening.

"I do not believe that such a course of action is in the best interest of our Nation or consistent with our Constitution," Pence said in a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Despite the letter, the House passed a resolution formally calling on Pence to act. The final vote was 223-205 in favor.

While that was occurring, Trump's iron grip on his party was showing further signs of slipping as at least four Republicans, including a member of the House leadership, said they would vote for his second impeachment - a prospect no president before Trump has faced.

Representative Liz Cheney, the No. 3 House Republican, said:"There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution."

Trump "summoned this mob, assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack" on the Capitol on Jan. 6, Cheney, the daughter of former Republican Vice President Dick Cheney, said in a statement, adding: "I will vote to impeach the president."

Three other Republican House members, John Katko, Adam Kinzinger and Fred Upton, said they would also vote for impeachment.

Republican leaders in the House did not urge their members to vote against impeaching Trump, saying it was a matter of individual conscience.

In his first public appearance since last Wednesday's riot, Trump showed no contrition on Tuesday for his speech, in which he repeated his false claim that President-elect Joe Biden's victory was illegitimate. Biden will be sworn in as president on Jan. 20.

"What I said was totally appropriate," Trump told reporters on Tuesday in his first public foray since the assault on the Capitol.

At a meeting to set the rules for Wednesday's impeachment vote, Democratic Representative David Cicilline told the House Rules Committee that the impeachment drive had the support of 217 lawmakers - enough to impeach Trump.

Cicilline, who helped craft the impeachment measure, said Trump "has had almost a week to do the right thing. He has refused to resign, he has failed to take responsibility, he has demonstrated no remorse.”

House Republicans who opposed the impeachment drive argued Democrats were going too far, as Trump was on the verge of leaving office.

“This is scary where this goes, because this is about more than about impeaching the president of the United States. This is about cancelling the president and cancelling all the people you guys disagree with,” said Republican Representative Jim Jordan, a leading Trump ally when the president was impeached in 2019 after encouraging the government of Ukraine to dig up political dirt on Biden.

The New York Times reported that the Republican majority leader of the U.S. Senate, Mitch McConnell, was said to be pleased about the Democratic impeachment push, suggesting Trump's party was looking to move on from him after the attack on Congress.

McConnell believes the impeachment effort will make it easier to purge Trump from the party, the Times said.

If Trump is impeached by the House, he would have a trial in the Senate to determine his guilt. A two-thirds majority of the Senate is needed to convict him, meaning at least 17 Republicans in the 100-member chamber would have to vote for conviction.

"I don't think you would have a hard time finding 17 Republicans to convict" with a tightly drawn article of impeachment, a former Senate Republican leadership aide told Reuters. "I think for McConnell, there's a very strong impulse for this (the Capitol assault) not to define the party."

Pelosi on Tuesday named nine impeachment "managers," who would present the House's case for impeachment during a Senate trial, but it remained unclear how swiftly such a trial would take place if the House votes to impeach.

McConnell has said no trial could begin until the chamber returns from its recess on Jan 19.

But Democratic Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, who is set to become the majority leader after two Democrats from Georgia are seated and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris is sworn in, told reporters the Senate could be recalled to handle the matter.

Democrats could also use an impeachment trial to push through a vote blocking Trump from running for office again.

Rather than a two-thirds vote, a simple Senate majority is needed to disqualify Trump from future office. There is disagreement among legal experts as to whether a conviction on an impeachment charge would be needed before a disqualification vote. A different part of the Constitution, the 14th Amendment, also provides a procedure for disqualifying Trump from future office with a simple majority of both chambers.

Trump has said he plans to run again in 2024.

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Waste of time and energy.  These clowns should be focusing on getting money to the needy, supporting the states in their pandemic efforts and looking at ways of otherwise helping the economy.  Instead they are engaged in silly political gestures.

Orange is not a clear and present danger.  He is almost gone. 

Us politics is broken and its politicians are more useless and corrupt and self serving than they have ever been.

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Pence says he will not move to expel Trump

Pence probably will run for president in 2024 and doesn't want to risk losing Trump's base.

"There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution."

Nutshell. Trump needs to be held accountable for all the damage he's caused the country to have, for making it even more divided, for all the virus deaths and the damages done to the economy, among others.

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More than 20 republicans tomorrow will vote for impeachment. Trump is a danger to the present and future. Needs to be accountable for his actions. Spreading of false conspiracies leading to the storming of the congress, with more to come on the 20th, when Trump had promised a peaceful handover of power.

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He’s already ousted. Pence was never going to become a great hero suddenly. Double impeachment, even if just symbolic, that’s a stain for the ages.

What follows after that is not going to be good news for trump, he won’t slither away without facing the music.

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Turns out those gas masks in the House were to guard from Republicans:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55631079

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If Mitch says that He will vote to impeach, Trump will be done. The GOP Dam will break and Trump will be forced out of office.

Momentum is building. Trump is toast.

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Not surprising that Pence doesn’t have the moxie to move against Trump. Pence isn’t even strong enough to have a meal alone with a female.

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Trump will not be impeached by the Senate before the 20th, when he's out of office.

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With McConnell favoring impeachment, this one could have some legs! Banning Trump from running again would be such a breath of fresh air.

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Kaerimashita

Waste of time and energy. These clowns should be focusing on getting money to the needy, supporting the states in their pandemic efforts and looking at ways of otherwise helping the economy. Instead they are engaged in silly political gestures.

Just because they impeach Trump doesn't mean they can't do other stuff. I expect when Biden and Kamela are sworn in and the Georgia senators take their seats, that the Dems will push for higher payments to the needy.

Orange is not a clear and present danger. He is almost gone. 

The chance to completely get rid of Trump should not be thrown away.

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Mike Pence needs to grow a set his man left him high and dry...Trump doesn't care about anyone but himself he is mentally unstable and needs to be removed from office...

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Pence is the true face of the religious right, no morals, no courage.

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trump and his klan will go into the rubbish bin soon and forgotten in a year, They’ll be busy fighting the courts to have any relevance.

But pence will be remembered for a long long time as a pretentious coward who put his own interest above that of the country!!!!

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Impeachment a “vote of conscience.”

Good, now GOP without conscience will be heralded all over the world.

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A year from now, the established elites that use the left as useful idiots will have: opened the borders and flooded America with "dreamers"; tanked the economy through excessive spending and poor trade deals; defunded the police, leading to a startling rise in crime; started numerous foreign interventions and conflicts; morphed schools into re-education camps; censored all news sources so they can manipulate the narrative; jacked taxes to obscene levels; and kowtowed to China whenever possible. Their businesses will continue to grow and their coffers swell in off-shore tax havens.

Look beyond the kabuki and invest accordingly.

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PTownsendToday  12:34 pm JST

Pence says he will not move to expel Trump

Pence probably will run for president in 2024 and doesn't want to risk losing Trump's base.

"There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution."

Nutshell. Trump needs to be held accountable for all the damage he's caused the country to have, for making it even more divided, for all the virus deaths and the damages done to the economy, among others.

Pence is too chicken to invoke the 25th because he wants to maintain his cred with the fascists and dittoheads. And he's too cowardly to resume POTUS responsibilities even if just one week.

Nonetheless he may get it, like it or not. Trump is just not acceptable, not for a single day longer.

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A year from now, the established elites that use the left as useful idiots will have: opened the borders and flooded America with "dreamers"; tanked the economy through excessive spending and poor trade deals; defunded the police, leading to a startling rise in crime; started numerous foreign interventions and conflicts; morphed schools into re-education camps; censored all news sources so they can manipulate the narrative; jacked taxes to obscene levels; and kowtowed to China whenever possible. Their businesses will continue to grow and their coffers swell in off-shore tax havens.

You need to get your news from more reliable sources.

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