Brexit at last: Britain leaves the EU as champagne corks fly

“The war is over”

”the tyranny of Brussels”

The drama queens are in full thesp mode here.

Calm down, luvvies.

It is a disaster for EU. UK will survive. Unlike northeast Asia, EU is heterogeneous.

The strains could hasten another referendum on Scottish independence and even a push for a united Ireland.

"Even". LOL.

Reuters say it like it's a bad thing.

It's coming & the Brexiteers would look very foolish and hypocritical to deny it. They loudly called for their independence over the last 4 years. And every time they were warned of the consequences (financial and otherwise) they roared louder, claiming it was a case of "project fear".

So now, we put it to you, Brexit friends. Give us freedom. Not begrudgingly, not with contempt, not with strings attached. Give us freedom and wish us the best as we wish you the best.

Now.

Give us freedom

Give the people the freedom to vote on their own future. The Scots deserve another chance to vote on independence post-Brexit and the people of NI deserve the chance to vote on their future.

Bombarding these articles with endless comments about Scottish and Northern Irish independence can be summarized into 3 words - let them vote.

How an agreement on how these referendums can be reached is a useful and practical conversation.

Northern Irish independence

Clumsy, should have written the unification of Ireland.

Give us freedom.

I think it's only fair that the people of Northern Ireland should have a vote on independence IF they wish to have one.

It is not your place to demand one, Toasted. When you say "us", it's disingenuous as you are not from Northern Ireland.

Once considered the unlikely dream of a motley crew of"eurosceptics" on the fringes of British politics, Brexit also weakens the EU, conceived as a way to bind together Europe's major powers in peace after centuries of conflict.

Yeah, so the propaganda line goes. However, if you look a European (and indeed, world) history, wars have always been fought between empires (or those wanted to create empires) and not between democratic nation states.

The EU is another attempt for empire building, and has already been involved in military misadventures (Kosovo, Libya, Afghanistan, etc etc).

Congratulation to Brexit! I hope many other exits follow.

zichi:

Both Scotland and NI voted to remain so maybe they should now be allowed a referendum in the interests of fairness.

London too, so should London not be allowed to split as a micro city state? And maybe the City of London within it as a sort of globalist Vatican state?

The irony of it all is that Jeremy Corbyn was most probably celebrating too yesterday.

Anyway, it's a great day - the NHS is now going to get 350 million pounds a week. Yippee!

Bombarding these articles with endless comments about Scottish and Northern Irish independence can be summarized into 3 words - let them vote.

@Jimizo

Brexit doesn't just affect British people. Other voices than British (and oddly, American) deserve to be heard.

The people of Ireland had no say in the partition of the country & nor did they when they were brutalized over the centuries by your country. I think it's fair to call for unification and I don't see it as "bombardment". We've put up with British voices for generations, calling for whatever they want, right or wrong.

It is not your place to demand one, Toasted. When you say "us", it's disingenuous as you are not from Northern Ireland.

It's kind of creepy, given that I've not revealed where I'm from.

I get this online often, some random people believe they know me, or know my details. They can try, I suppose.

Ireland is Ireland, North, South, East and West.

You've demanded Brexit all the way, you don't get to tell Irish people how or when to vote.

And maybe the City of London within it as a sort of globalist Vatican state?

I remind you that "globalist" is a proven anti-Semitic trope. And that Ireland and Scotland are their own countries. Disingenuous of you to bring London into it.

But that's Brexiteers for ya. Dishonest and disingenuous.

Ireland is Ireland, North, South, East and West.

Yep, but as I said, it's up to the people of Northern Ireland, not you, not me.

Yep, but as I said, it's up to the people of Northern Ireland, not you, not me.

It's up to the people of the 32 counties.

Ireland is and will be one nation, despite your country's squalid efforts to divide and rule.

Ireland will no longer sit by idly as a foreign nation tries to decide its future.

And no, that doesn't mean I advocate a return to violence and sectarianism. I stand for unity, not murder and mayhem.

The EU has been good to Ireland and the GFA gave us a generation of peace. We hope for a peaceful and inclusive unification.

The EU has been good to Ireland and the GFA gave us a generation of peace. We hope for a peaceful and inclusive unification.

Good. As I said, it is up to the people of Northern Ireland.

Good. As I said, it is up to the people of Northern Ireland.

Northern Ireland, aka, the 6 counties, or even the occupied 6 counties is Ireland.

One entity, despite the partition.

It is up to the people of Ireland. The 32 counties. It's definitely not up to the British.

So if in a referendum, the majority of the Republic of Ireland voted in favour of unification, but in Northern Ireland the majority voted to remain in the UK, what would happen?

Tangerine2000Today  07:27 pm JST

As I said, it is up to the people of Northern Ireland.

Right, as they're the ones who will become citizens of a different country if Ireland is united. Not a lot is going to change for people who are Irish citizens already. They might feel a bit more patriotic but national pride doesn't pay any bills.

Toasted HereticToday  07:29 pm JST

Northern Ireland, aka, the 6 counties, or even the occupied 6 counties is Ireland.

Does everyone actually living in those six counties agree with that?

One entity, despite the partition.

It wasn't really one entity before the Anglo-Normans invaded. Otherwise there might never have been an invasion.

It's up to the people of the 32 counties.

Is that not like saying the future of Hong Kong is up to the people of China?

It should be up to the people of Northern Ireland if they want to join the Republic. And it should be up to the people in the Republic to agree whether to accept them or not.

you don't get to tell Irish people how or when to vote.

The European elites/globalists were not able to force their views on the people of Britain. It’s now time for the Irish, as a nation, to throw off the forced British intrusion on their sovereignty. The Brits created an amazing political and economic system that transformed the world for the better. But that is the past and the system they were predominantly responsible for creating is now leading to the dissolution of their own great empire. Independence for all of Ireland is coming.

The people of Ireland had no say in the partition of the country & nor did they when they were brutalized over the centuries by your country. I think it's fair to call for unification and I don't see it as "bombardment". We've put up with British voices for generations, calling for whatever they want, right or wrong.

I wouldn’t excuse the behavior of ‘my country’ for a second.

Albaleo’s point about Hong Kong is a very good one. What do you think? The Chinese as a whole should drown out the will of Hong Kong?

Scexit likely next to follow

In the end, it may just be England and Wales to leave (Northern Ireland, who knows)

Remainers need to think positive;

At least one-trick pony and slimy toad farage is finished...

I expect to see England begging to be readmitted in my lifetime.

Nationalism takes a more discriminatory tone when Trump positions nationalism as the opposite of the anti-Semitic “globalist.” Add “white” to “nationalism,” and you get the name of a movement that openly promotes the idea that one race is superior to others

Brexit is in no way related to Trump unless you see the Brits assertion of sovereignty and Trumps rejection of the global elites as one in the same - nationalism. I just see a backlash to the homogenization of globalism. Nothing wrong with people wanting to slow down the rapid deterioration of their way of life by outside forces. The world is becoming more boring all the time. It isn’t interesting when every nation becomes just like every other.

We've put up with British voices for generations, calling for whatever they want, right or wrong.

I don't think any "British voices" now are calling for anything that people living in Ireland don't want. At least, not any British voices worth listening to.