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TokyoLivingToday  02:58 am JST

Save the world from the piracy of the dollar, UN and its terrorist 2030 agenda, IMF, NATO and decadent good old US..

Imagine being at war with the UN. The famous meme, "Are we the bad guys?" comes to mind.

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ZaphodToday 06:26 pm JST

Putin originally stated he had no intention of invading Ukraine. 

He assumed the Minsk accords would be honored. Remind us who broke them.

Russia with their failure to withdraw from their puppets.

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quercetumToday 05:10 pm JST

For now China backs Russia. But a time will come when China will make Russia pay for their support today.

Another comment out of touch that’s way out there.

It is actually…But a time will come when the PLA will make Japan pay. The PLA is salivating at Japan giving China the chance to retaliate overTaiwan (all US bases in Japan would be fair game.)

Xi is not interested in war. It’s the BRI. We should be glad Xi is not a hothead.

And then you will tell us that China does not have designs on Okinawa.

The US used to have bases and missiles in Taiwan until Mao told them to remove them completely. The U.S. obeyed him.

Yeah "told" by making it the condition of accessing the bully market. Some show of strength. Could be back in a second if China were properly de-recognized.

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elephant200Today 05:03 pm JST

The Russian ultimate victory and the defeat of Zelenskyy in the Ukraine war met China's strategic goal. Only a catastrophe defeat for US & NATO is essential to convince the world : Western hegemony and their values are in a steady decline.

Russia can't defeat #30 on the military expenditure list without airpower. Some "victory" over NATO.

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What frightens my soul is that modern day Japan, its people a nation devoted to peaceful co- exitance with neighbours, non nuclear, the occasional historic huff puff, the girls in chairs to remind revisionists of past imperial shame.

Yet the governments of China and Russia openly espouse a past belligerence, unfathomable to a global community that wants to live in peace .

Think about this fact.

Religion, Islam and despotism has brought us all to the brink of extinction.

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The two droolers shaking hands and both stabbing each other in the back. Russia has land that they took from China in the far north east now think about it if China wants Taiwan do you not think that Xi wants that land Russia occupies on their border. Putin on the other hand is cleaver as a fox he knows he is in a hole so he had to put his tail between his legs and play BIACH to Xi because he needs him to support his war in Ukraine he already used the fatboy and is getting military weapons from him. Xi uses Russia as a buffer because he know he can not fight a war against the US, Putin knows that also they would need NK, Iran, Russia and China to go to battle against the US, and its allies and NATO countries it would be a mess. So these two guys are just playing the game knowing they can't trust one another, but in the eyes of politics and survival they need one another to survive.

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quercetumToday 09:14 pm JST

The US used to have bases and missiles in Taiwan until Mao told them to remove them completely. The U.S. obeyed him.

> This one hurts the most. I’m sure they regret it every day.

Don't worry. They'll be back there whenever needed to greet the modern-day Mao... who has, incidentally, taken Chinese society back to the 1950s.

But keep cheering for him if you want.

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Xi is prepared to go to war over Taiwan.

No he is not. UNLESS the US is reckless enough to put US bases and missiles there. In which case all bets are off.

The US used to have bases and missiles in Taiwan until Mao told them to remove them completely. The U.S. obeyed him.

This one hurts the most. I’m sure they regret it every day.

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I see the leader of one of China's vassal states is again calling on his master. Seems Xi doesnt visit the Vassals that much but they must go and pay their respects often, and receive their orders personally in Xi's lair.

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Unless the free world stand unified, display a joint refusal to appease despotism, these two gargoyles of hope and freedom will prevail.

Your choice, however you will have to fight, the price could be a high cost.

You will still have to make a choice.

Winston Churchill words/rhetoric is the wake up call.

“I felt as if I were walking with destiny, and that all my past life had been but a preparation for this hour and for this trial... I thought I knew a good deal about it all, and I was sure I should not fail.”

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Depot dictators, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping, I would like to state could, however will inevitably lead the global freedom loving world to war.

Both these tyrants, Russian President Vladimir Putin, in respect to European leaderships continued cowardly appeasement, is close to pushing towards a Ukraine capitulating through a failure of EU governments to aid and support in it's hour of need.

Chinese President Xi Jinping ruthless stranglehold of South China Sea/Taiwan Strait global shipping trading routes, will sooner or later enact a blockade of Taiwan.

I wish I could see a small window of positivity, however the brutal snuffing out any Hong Kong democratic autonomy once, moving towards **'**real, functioning democracy', today is a governed a autocratic freedom despising, human rights detesting Xi Jinping.

Taiwan will be the last straw that breaks the camel's back.

It is pointless now proportioning blame, we all elected our leaders, those among us that bothered to make the time to the polling booth to chalk an X from a pool of varying levers of incompetence,

For Putin and his partner in crime Xi, US 2024 presidential election year will provide a once in a generation opportunity, the US people having to choose between a geriatric, and a failed realtor.

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He assumed the Minsk accords would be honored. Remind us who broke them.

Putin, when he invaded Ukraine for the third time and annexed the Donbas.

Oh, did Putin tell you that it's Ukraine's fault? And you believed him again?

MAGA truly is the party of Putin.

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ZaphodToday  06:08 pm JST

OssanAmerica

The West is not "forcing" Russia into anything. Putin earned everything he got by invading Ukraune, all while proclaiming :No, we won't invade".

You should read up on the history of the conflict. Putin did not invade a peaceful, united Ukraine, as the context-less media narrative typically says. There was a civil war since 2015, and Zelenskis Nato-trained armee was getting ready to overrun the ethnic Russian areas.

Russian narrative. Even then, doesn't justify the Russian invasiion of Crimea in 2014 and the whole of Ukraine in 2022.

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Haha of course the US is pure and wants democracy and utopia throughout the world… I mean who with any idea or even a smidgen of research believes this?

No…Russia is not great and definitely nor is China but the US is there with them as just another Imperialist stealing and killing for money!

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elephant200Today  04:55 pm JST

@Ossan: The 100 years of humiliation was regarded from 1840 the Opium war with the British empire until 1945 the defeat of Imperial Japan. Russia is not relevant in the terms of above.The Soviet Union and today's Russian federation has nothing to do with Imperial Russia.

Nice attempt at historical revisionism there. The 100 Years of Humiliation refers not to just the 1840 Opium War, but all that followed. In 1900 Russia along with other Western powers and Japan entered China to subue the Boxer Rebellion. Unlike other nations' troops, the Russians did not leave leading up to the Russo-Japanese War of 1904.

"In the 1850s, Russian towns and settlements appeared along the left bank of the Amur (Heilong) River. The Chinese government made repeated protests but, because of its ongoing struggle against Great Britain and France and the internal turmoil of the Taiping Rebellion, was unable to resist Russian pressure. Finally, by the Treaty of Aigun (1858, confirmed by the Beijing Convention, 1860), China ceded to Russia all the territory north of the Amur, together with the maritime region east of the Ussuri (Wusuli) River from the mouth of the Amur to the boundary of Korea. This included the splendid site where Vladivostok was soon to be founded. "

https://www.britannica.com/event/Russo-Japanese-War

"The dispute has been simmering since at least 1860, when China’s ruling dynasty ceded territory in the region to czarist Russia after its defeat in the Second Opium War. A century later, the communist forces of the PRC and the Soviet Union clashed along the border north of Vladivostok.

About 8 million people live in Russia’s expansive Far East, which is abundant in natural resources including, oil, coal, gold and fish. The three Chinese provinces bordering the region are home to about 90 million, according to the South China Morning Post newspaper. Vladivostok is 6,500 kilometers east of Moscow, almost five times farther than the port city is from Beijing."

https://ipdefenseforum.com/2024/03/far-east-territorial-dispute-tests-prc-russia-ties/

This territorial dispute still exists, and Russia's newfound economic and political dependence on China will tilt the issue in China's favor.

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falseflagsteveToday 04:13 pm JST

Good to see a couple of world leaders smiling and getting on well. We need more of this sort of thing

If you think it's good to see two people who are responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions "smiling and getting on well," you have a very different view of humanity to me.

elephant200Today 05:03 pm JST

Only a catastrophe defeat for US & NATO is essential to convince the world : Western hegemony and their values are in a steady decline.

The US & NATO aren't actually fighting so are highly unlikely to suffer a "catastrophe [sic] defeat."

But perhaps you read RT/Xinhua and believe they are the ones orchestrating all this. Amazingly, I understand some people are actually taken in by the propaganda.

JJEToday 05:09 pm JST

Problem for the collective west is Xi understands the complex roots and causes of the conflict

Yes, Putin's delusions of grandeur certainly is a thorny problem. Do you know if China has any good psychiatrists?

quercetumToday 05:10 pm JST

Xi is not interested in war.

About as trustworthy as "we won't militarize the South China Sea," or "we're being fully transparent over COVID-19."

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I wonder if the US is creating this alliance to create the conditions for the next WW to get it out of its formidable debt….

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saying China would "always be a good partner" of Russia

"...right up until we steal your Far East once you're sufficiently weakened."

https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20230321-territorial-dispute-between-china-and-russia-risks-clouding-friendly-future

Behind the bonhomie, both Xi and Putin undoubtedly realize that you can't trust a dictator.

Russia in particular has a very famous case: perhaps Putin wants to emulate the folly of his hero, Stalin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact#Termination

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Japan needs to walk carefully here! Because of the blind support for Israel and stupidity in regard to Ukraine the US is very much open the nose! Being that the future voices of trump or Biden look abysmal in regard to international acceptance, China and a Russia are going to be like bees in a florist shop!

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In the 19th century Russia conquered large parts of northern China, including what they now call Vladivostok, formerly Haishenwai. Seems to me Haishenwai would be easier for Xi to conquer than Taiwan.

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wallace

Xi is prepared to go to war over Taiwan.

No he is not. UNLESS the US is reckless enough to put US bases and missiles there. In which case all bets are off.

Putin originally stated he had no intention of invading Ukraine. 

He assumed the Minsk accords would be honored. Remind us who broke them.

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OssanAmerica

The West is not "forcing" Russia into anything. Putin earned everything he got by invading Ukraune, all while proclaiming :No, we won't invade".

You should read up on the history of the conflict. Putin did not invade a peaceful, united Ukraine, as the context-less media narrative typically says. There was a civil war since 2015, and Zelenskis Nato-trained armee was getting ready to overrun the ethnic Russian areas.

And since this war is draining Russian (as well as Western) ressources, ressource-rich and and manufacturing-limited Russia has no choice but to look for partners like China and NK, as unappatizing as they are.

The blame is 100% on the Western side who insists that Ukraine must be in Nato and house US bases and missiles. Remember Cuba?

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That’s war propaganda by the West

The degenerating West must be a source of amusement to these two.

Problem for the collective west is Xi understands the complex roots and causes of the conflict and doesn't subscribe to the simplistic western narrative. 

Fair bit of keyboard support here for totalitarian regimes.

Interestingly, I'm certain none of these supporters wish to move to Communist China nor fascist Russia from the comfort and freedom of the Western, developed, and democratic world - including Japan. No - they'll just take pot-shots at the West while enjoying all her opportunities, protection and freedom.

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Xi is prepared to go to war over Taiwan.

Don’t believe that. That’s war propaganda by the West and is also Xi’s lip service to the PLA. Unless of course you’re wanting to push the propaganda. The Chinese vice is money.

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As long as Israeli army onslaught on the Gaza Palestinians by full US military support. More countries were angry with western countries and their hypocrisy. Especially many Islamic countries and third world countries, the momentum of supporting China Russia alliances go strong. At this time the supreme leaders of both countries solidarity will help the world growing stronger and stronger anti-US voices. Indeed China and Russia were not brothers but a collaboration in convenience. Here is the right time to convince many countries : America is selfish,despicable and biased, don't trust USA !

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Xi is prepared to go to war over Taiwan. Putin originally stated he had no intention of invading Ukraine. How far can we trust these leaders who changed their political systems to take power for life? Both nuclear-armed. Although none of their militaries are that impressive.

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The degenerating West must be a source of amusement to these two.

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@Z:  West is forcing Russia into this alliance. 

The Russia is victim, another Kremlin message. Interesting that the US far right its cult leaders, cultists, and also some in the billionaire/elite/establishment caste also claim to be be victims, the billionaire class in part because they can't exploit people like they used to, and occasionally might be required to follow a law or regulation that they believe should not apply to them.

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For now China backs Russia. But a time will come when China will make Russia pay for their support today.

Another comment out of touch that’s way out there.

It is actually…But a time will come when the PLA will make Japan pay. The PLA is salivating at Japan giving China the chance to retaliate overTaiwan (all US bases in Japan would be fair game.)

Xi is not interested in war. It’s the BRI. We should be glad Xi is not a hothead.

Russia is an ally. China knows how to play 三国志

China Russia Japan

China Russia USA

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Problem for the collective west is Xi understands the complex roots and causes of the conflict and doesn't subscribe to the simplistic western narrative. And aware the region was weaponized against and provoked Moscow, and there will be border changes to promote general security beneficial to all.

Clearly the China peace plan, the only realistic proposal by a country mile, will be discussed. Sensible to sign up now because the deal will get worse down the track.

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The Russian ultimate victory and the defeat of Zelenskyy in the Ukraine war met China's strategic goal. Only a catastrophe defeat for US & NATO is essential to convince the world : Western hegemony and their values are in a steady decline.

Wait and see, the Ukrainian army is exhausted and they are crumbling and soldiers were running away from frontlines.

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@elephant200 See Treaty of Aigun.

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work together to uphold fairness and justice in the world

Work together to dominate or invade neighbours, undermine democratic countries and take their jobs

China and its ageing Pomeranian talking about fairness and justice.

Even Tucker Carlson would have trouble spinning this one to the morons.

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@Ossan: The 100 years of humiliation was regarded from 1840 the Opium war with the British empire until 1945 the defeat of Imperial Japan. Russia is not relevant in the terms of above.The Soviet Union and today's Russian federation has nothing to do with Imperial Russia.

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Xi called for upholding the UN charter, so I guess it is back to 2013 borders for Russia in Ukraine.

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work together to uphold fairness and justice in the world

Work together to dominate or invade neighbours, undermine democratic countries and take their jobs.

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Russia will become more decrepit and irrelevant.

China still has some use for it for the time being.

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@OA Quite the screed there. It's nice to include some historical bits to make it more interesting for the average reader

Here's another take. If a country shares 1,000KM or more border with Russia it is wise to be friendly. As the USA has now openly declared economic warfare against China outcomes are predictable. (Blinken) Cause and effect.

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But the U.S. keeps buying from China. China has a 21,000 acre car factory in Mexico. Some 18 of 33 Chinese auto part makers in Mexico export to the U.S. from Mexico. Tariffs Sheriffs.

The U.S. won’t cancel NAFTA. And the clueless say China is no longer our number one trading partner….Mexico is.

China wins.

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JJEToday 03:44 pm JST

DM Belousov is an interesting inclusion. He helped sanction-proof the whole economy and now tasked with fine tuning the military-industrial-complex into the overall picture and squeezing maximum efficiency, innovation and output.

Ya gonna be able to eat those artillery shells?

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falseflagsteveToday 04:13 pm JST

Good to see a couple of world leaders smiling and getting on well. We need more of this sort of thing

Absolutely zero concern that they are two of the worst leaders in the world for journalists, huh?

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Russia needs cash. China needs raw materials. The problem is when no one buys anything from Russia or China anymore - there are alternatives.

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Good to see a couple of world leaders smiling and getting on well. We need more of this sort of thing

.

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The West is not "forcing" Russia into anything. Putin earned everything he got by invading Ukraune, all while proclaiming :No, we won't invade".

China is on an agenda to make up for "100 years of humiliation" at the hands on the West. China has not forgotten that includes the unfair treaties signed by the Qing Dynasty under Russian pressure resulting in vast areas of the fareast coming under Russian control.

For now China backs Russia. But a time will come when China will make Russia pay for their support today.

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Horrifying!

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Russia and China are not natural allies, but the West is forcing Russia into this alliance. Western neocons/neolibs only have to blame themselves for this.

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Trip is going as planned and hasn't been cancelled. A very large delegation indeed.

DM Belousov is an interesting inclusion. He helped sanction-proof the whole economy and now tasked with fine tuning the military-industrial-complex into the overall picture and squeezing maximum efficiency, innovation and output.

Agenda will be economic related in that department. Collective west will be watching with growing concern.

Shoigu gave his first interview to a journalist since going to the security council, albeit brief.

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This can only mean that now is the time to steal back Taiwan from the free people that live there

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There is a happy man walking his dog.

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President Joe Biden says this century will be defined by an existential contest between democracies and autocracies.

President Biden sees foreign rivals as competition, whereas his opponent the gross Sleepy one along with his party see fellow Americans who do not support the gross Sleeper and his anti-democracy/anti-republic party as rivals, even enemies.

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