Zelenskyy acknowledges military operation in Russia's Kursk region

These reckless actions at least mean the conflict will end quicker but maybe with a huge loss of life in the following weeks.

Russia is making breakthroughs and Zelensky believes this can halt them. He has sent Hugh grade equipment and troops into Russia instead of defending the nation.

The massive Kursk nuclear plant is less than a 1 hour drive from the border.

The plan was to use Zelensky's best men and equipment to break through the relatively thin border defence and steamroll pass confused and shocked green Russian conscripts to reach the plant and seize it.

Holding the nuke plant hostage was supposed to be Zelensky's key bargaining chip in negotiations with Russia.

The plan failed.

Russian conscripts put up a fight and thwarted the mad dash to the nuke plant.

Zelensky's best units are now surrounded.

BanthuToday 07:14 am JST

The massive Kursk nuclear plant is less than a 1 hour drive from the border.

That's great news. I suggest a nuclear plant for a nuclear plant deal.

The plan was to use Zelensky's best men and equipment to break through the relatively thin border defence and steamroll pass confused and shocked green Russian conscripts to reach the plant and seize it.

Holding the nuke plant hostage was supposed to be Zelensky's key bargaining chip in negotiations with Russia.

The plan failed.

Russian conscripts put up a fight and thwarted the mad dash to the nuke plant.

Zelensky's best units are now surrounded.

Do you think it will be just two more weeks until they surrender?

falseflagsteveToday 07:10 am JST

These reckless actions at least mean the conflict will end quicker but maybe with a huge loss of life in the following weeks.

Russia is making breakthroughs and Zelensky believes this can halt them. He has sent Hugh grade equipment and troops into Russia instead of defending the nation.

Those with the sense not to surrender their country also know that offense is the best defense.

Taiwan

Like I said yesterday, reminds me of the Battle of the Bulge surprise attack. Hitlers last gasp attempt to take land.

Zelesnky has made his biggest mistake here and the next few weeks will show that. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s removed from power or assassinated.

falseflagsteveToday 07:20 am JST

Taiwan

Like I said yesterday, reminds me of the Battle of the Bulge surprise attack. Hitlers last gasp attempt to take land.

Zelesnky has made his biggest mistake here and the next few weeks will show that. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s removed from power or assassinated.

These are patriots defending their country. Something you apparently don't know anything about.

He is more deluded than ever.

The Donbass front is crumbling. There are no redeployments from there.

Moscow won't let him hold a fraction of Kursk.

Looks like Ukraine is learning from the best how to treat its peaceful neighbor to a respectful indulgence of friendly special military operations. Maybe, like putin’s old “mysteriously died in a freak plane crash explosion Wagner chef friend,” they will March to take remove their enemy from power.

And when they’re done, they’ll go home and rebuild what Russians destroyed. Maybe Russians will choose to do the same.

Then maybe we can choose to live by the same basic golden rule we’ve all known since we were born. Decisions, decisions. How to treat ourselves, each other, and our home?

let’s punch each other into oblivion while the roof falls down around us. Except our home is a tiny planet in outer space and if we don’t decide to grow up, we may die in our own excrement.

at least the Ukrainians can say they did what they could. What are the rest of us even fighting for?

glory to ukraine

peace on earth

Taiwan

The German troops thought the same thing in 45 and look what happened. They also had a leader who had become delusional and lost touch with reality.

falseflagsteveToday 07:29 am JST

Taiwan

The German troops thought the same thing in 45 and look what happened. They also had a leader who had become delusional and lost touch with reality.

I'll wager not one Ukrainian thinks they are on the wrong side of history and deserving of Russia's illegal invasion.

Taiwan

Many from Ukraine fought Russia with the Germans in WWII, this will end up just as badly for them, worse now they attacked the mainland like this.

falseflagsteveToday 07:40 am JST

Taiwan

Many from Ukraine fought Russia with the Germans in WWII, this will end up just as badly for them, worse now they attacked the mainland like this.

This isn't WW2 and Russia is the fascist invading power here.

You punched me in the face, so now I'm punching you in the face ... Problem?

falseflagsteve

Taiwan

The German troops thought the same thing in 45 and look what happened. 

The didn’t have any drones.

Putin has ordered the evacuation of over 76,000 people as Ukraine launches a surprise cross-border attack, leading to Russia bombing its territory.

Good on Ukraine. Let’s move this war entirely on to Russian territory. Make the Russians beg for peace.

"The Biden administration is sending another round of military assistance to Ukraine as its war with Russia intensifies following a large-scale incursion by Ukrainian forces. "

"The latest package is worth $125 million and includes air defense interceptors, munitions for rocket systems and artillery, multi-mission radars, and anti-tank weapons, the State Department said Friday. "

Russia has stepped up its attacks of guided bombs and other aerial strikes in Sumy, prompting mass evacuations.

Mentioned yesterday VKS is employing a wide spectrum of weapon systems.

Once this incursion is dealt with, the launching point will be dealt with and that means Sumy and beyond.

Somewhat a short article, which revolves around his nightly address, absent of anything informative.

...while not forgetting the battles troops face on the difficult eastern front.

That's right. Be aware of what happens on that front.

Putin is ANGRY!

Which, let's be serious, is awesome!

The more war on Russian soil, the better.

Well done Ukraine. Give em hell.

If only Russia hadn't made itself the most hated country on the planet among everyone that matters, maybe someone would cry tears for Russia. But right now everyone is like 'hah, you had that one coming!'.

Who is "everyone that matters"? Please elaborate on that.

Who is "everyone that matters"?

People who hate Russia!

And a pretty successful one it is!

Not like that 3-day-limited-operation by the dictator in the Kremlin!

By the way: most of the information comes from the Russian side.

They are retreating, surrendering, being destroyed!

Finally this aggressor's war is going to where it came from.

And if for nothing else, the liberated area will be a great bargaining chip for President Zelensky, in case Putain wants to have real peace negotiations!

For the time being, Ukrainian Forces are moving forward, day by day.

Ukraine prevails!

Does "anyone that matter" seriously entertain the concept that Moscow won't evict those in Sudzhansky District and/or Kyiv will actually add that to its sovereign territory.

Why are there mass evacuations in Sumy? (last sentence of article)

Does "anyone that matter" seriously entertain the concept that Moscow

No one that matters entertains Moscow as a serious concept.

Losers. Every single person in charge in that country.

They can't even protect their own country in their "72-hour special invasion". Hard to think how their army could be any more incompentent...

So, that's a no.

Why are there mass evacuations in Sumy?

Burning Bush

Incorrect the Bulge was the last real offensive by German forces, other mini raids were made but ultimately the Nazis lost. Same in this case with 'Ukraine.

Because the previous Belgorod incursions got shut down with such extreme prejudice, quite frankly Moscow didn't expect Kyiv to be so foolish and commit their reserves to something like this, especially considering the 'difficult eastern front' - which means the Donbass front and the main line of contact - is cracking and crumbling while you read this.

On a historical note, the last major offensive operation by Berlin in WWII was not in the west or the Ardennes. Indeed, units from there turned up here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spring_Awakening

Day 5 of the special mop-up operation? There may need to be a referendum in Kusrk soon. I think it can become independent.

Because the previous Belgorod incursions got shut down with such extreme prejudice, quite frankly Moscow didn't expect Kyiv to be so foolish and commit their reserves to something like this, especially considering the 'difficult eastern front' - which means the Donbass front and the main line of contact - is cracking and crumbling while you read this.

On a historical note, the last major offensive operation by Berlin in WWII was not in the west or the Ardennes. Indeed, units from there turned up here:

Do you really want to bring up historical situations where Russia suffered major incursions in other wars?

You can win the battle but lose the war.

That's what this is: a full 18 hole round of golf with beers at the ninth.

In this case Kyiv will lose this battle and it will probably cost them the war - which was looking pear shaped already.

They got a PR blitzkrieg which is about it and that's not what wins battles or even wars.

Yep Ukraine went in, now facing the counter coming soon, Ukraine took about 100km2 using its reserves.

Looks good in the headlines.

Meanwhile, instead of sending its reserves to help in Donetsk, Russia has not only crossed the 2014 line Ukraine has held and was the most fortified region, Russia has crossed the 2nd line of defense and has reached the 3rd line in that region.

The Kursk front will be pushed back fairly quickly once the difference line is fully established.

What people don't understand is that the 300,000 Russian conscripts inside Russia were barred by law from fighting in Ukraine now they can be involved in this fight and will be the read fighting force as the volunteers and professional part of the military hit back.

Russia has 50,000 non conscripts in that area and more in reserve along with the 300,000 conscripts available, while Ukrainian has committed its entire reserves.

Despite this offensive by Ukraine nothing changed in the other regions.

Russia kept advancing in the south as if nothing was happening in Kursk.

Russia has more than enough reserves to fight on multiple fronts, unlike Ukraine which had to send it's elite to hold the line in the Kharkiv region leading to the depletion of its forces in the south and the breakthroughs Russia is now having in the Donetsk region.

Was it a hail Mary try for the nuclear power plant?

Is it an attempt to hold some territory as a bargaining chip in possible up costing negotiations?

Is it a PR move?

No one other than the Ukrainian planners know, but it is obviously not a good military move seeing Russia has crossed the 1st, 2nd and now reached the 3rd lines of defense in what was Ukraine's strongest position in the south.

Historical situation mentioned was relevant because many people are comparing this Kursk incursion to the Dec/Jan 1945 Ardennes offensive, and there are parallels.

And this is it - a much better comparison. Change bridges, fuel depots and Antwerp port to Kursk NPP and you get the idea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Greif

They should have been targeting Putin's regime from day 1 with insurgents. Instead, 2 years of trench warfare and cities getting trashed. Invading Russia may be an even worse tactic. Too many injured civilians, Putin gets a 'justification' for responding, and it is difficult to see it ending well. Plus NATO will be having kittens over their kit being used on civilian areas inside Russia. War is so much easier in the movies.

This is a tiny force that invaded Russia...

You can win the battle but lose the war.

That's what this is: a full 18 hole round of golf with beers at the ninth.

In this case Kyiv will lose this battle and it will probably cost them the war - which was looking pear shaped already.

They got a PR blitzkrieg which is about it and that's not what wins battles or even wars.

GBR48Today 09:08 am JST

They should have been targeting Putin's regime from day 1 with insurgents.

Insurgencies aren't like the movies. Fascist powers can do a lot of damage before crumbling from insurgencies.

Why are there mass evacuations in Sumy?

Why are there mass evacuations in Sumy?

Why is there war in Russia as part of an invasion into Ukraine?

And you can look pretty stupid when your 72-hour special invasion ends up with your own country being invaded.

As usual, I was waiting for his regular regurgitation of false information!

How many times has? He said this fake and it is fake comment/ information.

Russia never said it. A US general said it but hey we know that someone here doesn't like facts.

As usual, I was waiting for his regular regurgitation of false information!

Wait, so you think that Ukraine invading into Russia is false?

Um.....

ok. Gotcha mate.

No answer yet again about the evacuations.

8:46am post addressed the 'war in Russia as part on an invasion into Ukraine' thing.

Also relevant to add, Ukraine is historically part of Russia, in the present too.

No answer yet again about the evacuations.

No answer yet as to how Russia could be so incompetent to let itself get invaded as part of an invasion into another country...

Also relevant to add, Ukraine is historically part of Russia, in the present too.

No.

If the invasion of Russia is going great, why would there be mass evacuations in Sumy?

(8:46am post addressed 9:17, 20, 26 and the original question at 8:41 etc)

Now what isn't mentioned in the article was that the advance by Ukraine was on a region with only border guards, conscripts, and a few SFB units all lightly armed.

Now that the defense line is in place, the Ukrainians are facing experienced Russian frontline Troops that are already out numbering them.

Ukraine has sent in beyond the frontline disruption squads to hit the rear supplies but unfortunately as I pointed out, Russia has far more available manpower and now inside Russia the conscripts can engage in the fighting.

So these disruption squads are now overwhelmed by the sheer number of Russian units including conscript units and even if these conscripts are less trained and less well equipped the sheer numbers and the availability of drones and artillery is far too much for these squads to deal with.

Reports from both sides say these squads are as far as 25 km beyond the Russian defense lines and some have had a few successes hitting supply convoys, but unfortunately, right after they were wiped out.

Already Russia has more than twice the number of troops in the region and more on the way and this is not counting the conscripts.

Ukraine is trying to dig in and build defenses now and halted offensive operations.

The question is will it be able to build strong enough defenses in time before the full counter attack by Russia using a far larger force?

Already Russia has countered in the south east of the salient into Ukraine and will probably do the same on the south west side if this happens then Russia has a chance of closing the lid trapping the dug in Ukrainian forces in the pocket they created.

This move by Ukraine doesn't make sense, it doesn't have enough reserves to hold it or move forward as all western analysts say Russia has 200,000 to 300,000 reserves and 300,000 conscripts that can now also be used, this on top of the 600,000 already in Ukrainian territory.

Now what isn't mentioned in the article...

Is just how incompetent Russia had to be to allow this to happen on Russian soil.

Do you think anyone will be executed for this?

As usual, I was waiting for his regular regurgitation of false information!

> Wait, so you think that Ukraine invading into Russia is false?

> Um.....

> ok. Gotcha mate

Someone like to repeat false information, then as usual copy paste edited quotes by others.

But hey when you don't have any facts or anything of substance, I guess that is all they can do!

Absolutely there will be executions. In between the torrent of UMPK FABs, Iskander-M & K, Tornado-S, Smerch, Grad, tubes sending downrange 122, 152 and 203, 240 Tulips and everything else that is coming, it would be absolutely astonishing if there aren't.

Absolutely there will be executions.

More dead Kremliners is a good thing.

These are patriots defending their country.

Like Trump defending US borders I hear. That guy is a true patriot people say, is it true?

Larger point is Putin and Russia will not back down. Let that sink in.

And more war will come to Russian soil as a result, and the world that matters will cheer.

Still scratching my head about the mass evacuations in Sumy, mentioned last sentence of article.

Still scratching my head as to how utterly incompetent you have to be to let your country get invaded as part of a "72-hour special invasion".

"You have repeated this 72-hour claim in every comment section on this subject.

Because I'm not sucking on the teat of fake-Kremlin news, and know that Putin didn't mean this to be 2.5 years, with Russia eventually being invaded."

Do you think sucking on a teat of fake-news Washington propaganda is better? Or do you think Miley was just offf the wall with his 72 hour zinger but it's too embarassing to say. Also is it true that Ghost of Kyiv is real after all?

Do you think sucking on a teat of fake-news Washington propaganda is better?

Transparent media vs a dictatorship controlled media?

Um, yeah. Duh.

But of course, real people of intelligence aren't stupid enough to think there is only Kremlin media and Washington media and nothing else.

Strangerland

Today 10:04 am JST

Who is the uppity and upset here?

> Well, the difference is that my anger is righteousness

So in your book your "righteousness" means you can live in a Fantasy ignoring the reality on the ground and your false information makes you feel better, because the facts are not what you like.

So Russia hasn't kept advancing, Ukraine is winning, Ukraine doesn't have a manpower shortage, Russia hasn't broken through the 2014 lines etc..and because you don't want to acknowledge reality based on your view being "righteous" this is going to make everything OK.

Ok I got it, wishful thinking overrides the actual facts on the ground.

So in your book your "righteousness" means you can live in a Fantasy

Nope, in my righteousness, I speak fact:

Fact: The world that matters hates Russia

Fact: Russia thought they would take Ukraine quickly

Fact: Russia is so incompetent that their own nation has been invaded as part of the so-called "72-hour Special Invasion".

Fact: The world that matters hates Russia"

Is that a proven fact reported by unbiased, reliable sources? Which ones?

Yes, I, as well as the rest of the world that matters,"

I heard standing in front of a mirror in the morning and saying " I matter " is part of a new woke self - affirmation ritual that helps to build up joy and feelings of self - importance. Does it really work?

Can we at least agree there are mass evacuations in Sumy and the last sentence of the article is there?

Fact: The world that matters hates Russia" 

Is that a proven fact reported by unbiased, reliable sources?

Everyone that matters knows it.

" Do you think sucking on a teat of fake-news Washington propaganda is better?

Transparent media vs a dictatorship controlled media? Um, yeah. Duh."

Do you really believe the ' Washington = transparent media ' zinger or did they just tell you say that?

Oh my...

Strangerland

Today 10:13 am JST

Do you think sucking on a teat of fake-news Washington propaganda is better?

> Transparent media vs a dictatorship controlled media?

Transparent media?

I will acknowledge Russians news is 100% pure propaganda.

But western news Transparent?

Not in a million years, it may have been at one point in history but not today.

This article is a perfect example.

100% pro Ukraine repeating everything Ukraine tells them.

But in the past few weeks, Russia has advanced breaking though multiple lines of Ukraine's best defenses, taken back 90% of what Ukraine gained in its summer offensive, etc...

And western news kept silent.

It should have been a major news story when the Donetsk 2014 line fell a line that held for 10 years including during the 2022 invasion, but that was ignored by western media.

If we claim to have freedom of the press we should be able to be confident that our press will tell us the good and the bad, but that is not what they are doing they repeat only what they are told by their governments.

It may not be the forced propaganda as with Russia (and Ukraine as it at this point also controls its media) but our media has accepted self censorship to keep to their government's official lines.

Two and a half years into the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Putin supporters have been reduced to arguing that the fact that it has now turned into a Ukrainian invasion of Russia just goes to prove how great things are going for Russia’s war.

The German troops thought the same thing in 45 and look what happened. They also had a leader who had become delusional and lost touch with reality.

Precisely what I was thinking. This is Zelensky’s Aredennes Offensive.

Like I said yesterday, reminds me of the Battle of the Bulge surprise attack. Hitlers last gasp attempt to take land. 

Exactly.

Brilliant move on the Ukraine side...not only strategic but very symbolic...the battle of Kusrk was the biggrst tank battle of WW2...where the Soviets defrleated the nazis...well done Ukraine

Is that a proven fact reported by unbiased, reliable sources?

Everyone that matters knows it.

This clown is so full of himself.