2020hindsights comments

Raw Beer

Actually, it has all to do with national security. Would you like to fund Ukraine, or send troops to Europe when Putin invades a NATO country?

Putin has no intention of invading NATO countries.

Yeah, right. He wasn't going to invade Ukraine, until... he did.

He also did everything he could to avoid the SMO,

Like what?

but the West kept pushing?

The West didn't do anything.

The US wants to destroy Russia because it is interfering with US's plans to further increase it's hegemony.

The US has no plans about Russia, except that it wants Russia out of Ukraine.

WoodyLee

Pouring Billions of $ into Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and many other Leeches has NOTHING to do with U.S. national Security.

Actually, it has all to do with national security. Would you like to fund Ukraine, or send troops to Europe when Putin invades a NATO country?

Feed your own people and help the needy,

Providing Free education, Free Health Care, Free Transportation, plus free meals for all Children is in the best interest of National Security .

I agree. Most of the House Republicans don't.

bass4funk

An utterly ludicrous claim

Biden claims it, other previous Presidents have.

No president, other than Trump, has claimed absolute presidential immunity.

GBR48

American Democrats are going to support Israel some more? To kill more Palestinians

No. $9.1 billion of the total is designated for humanitarian needs, something Democrats had demanded.

MTG submitted an amendment for the aid bill that would install 'space laser technology on the southwest border'.

Bob Pns

High capacity semi-auto pistols and rifles need to be severely regulated on both a Federal and State level.

One of the weapons used by Dylan was completely banned 5 years prior to the shooting yet he still managed to acquire it. All of the guns they used were acquired illegally.

Hence the need for severe regulation.

bass4funk

The difference between the this impeachment and both of Trump’s is that in both of Trump’s he was proven to have done what he was accused of and the acts were crimes.

The same and even more so with Myorkas. The man betrayed his adoptive country.

What crime did he commit?

Blacklabel

First time in 227 years a trial hasn’t been held for an impeachment.

anything to protect Biden and Mayorkas- who will both be unemployed less than 9 months from now anyway.

To have a trial, you first have to have a crime. The GOP couldn't even come up with a crime that he committed.

JJE

Someone implied there are no patriot systems in Ukraine - incorrect. They've been there for some time and have increasingly been getting whacked by Russian missile strikes.

No, they haven't. A Couple of launchers have been hit, that's all.

Strangerland

Johnston went down to Mar-a-Lago to let Trump know that he is going to allow a vote for Ukraine aid and that Trump had better reign MTG and the Twitter faction in, because if they go for Mike's job, they will not be in congress much longer.

Interesting take. I don't see Johnson as having a spine though, so I'm skeptical that he could ever say that to Trump.

Sure, he doesn't look like it. I guess we will find out soon enough. Something has happened, just not exactly sure what.

Eastman

well USA will need to learn in hard way than.

instead of peace negotiations they prefer make more money out of UA blood and misery.

Talk to Putin. He doesn't want peace.

Strangerland

Well, if Trump has finally come around an realized that the people want Ukrainian aid, and therefore is allowing Johnson to do it, at least he's come around to the right way of thinking.

Johnston went down to Mar-a-Lago to let Trump know that he is going to allow a vote for Ukraine aid and that Trump had better reign MTG and the Twitter faction in, because if they go for Mike's job, they will not be in congress much longer.

There is a new power dynamic. And it doesn't include Trump.

Eastman

well provoked,financed and related media propaganda covered conflict

Russia invade Ukraine. Not the other way around.

but somehow you did as same mistake as Napolen and Hitler 

Russia is Napoleon and Hitler in this analogy.

itsonlyrocknroll

Trump, martyred at the alter of illiberal intolerance of "democrat" need for a second Biden term.

All of the indictments were decided by grand juries. It has nothing to to with Democrats need for a second Biden term.

itsonlyrocknroll

So may I be forgiven for questioning how and who and when “the law” could be weaponised to hide behind?

The law can certainly be weaponised, but no evidence that any is happening.

The same cannot be said for Trump's DOJ, who pushed prosecutors to remove references of Trump from the Michael Cohen case, which comes from the same hush money payments:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/13/book-doj-almost-implicated-trump-more-directly-crime/

itsonlyrocknroll

2020hindsights, yes indeed I have lost count of the occasions I have viewed All the President's Men

I think we are witnessing a use of the Judicial process to influence Novembers election. Such action could have huge ramifications.

Just like Nixon!

Blacklabel

So you can't refute any of it...

a state has no prosecutorial jurisdiction over a federal election. No “other crime” exists to make it a felony. Much less 34 felonies.

No “other crime” exists to make it a felony.

Of course "another crime" exists. Federal election law, state election law, or tax law could all fit the bill

bass4funk

The border patrol endorsed the Senate border deal.

They have NO CHOICE!

Oc course they have a choice.

Who signs their paychecks and who is head and leads the border patrol.

Not the Senate.

Ramsey's Kitchen

Wasn't Ukraine Russia's red line?

No.

Well, Kremlin said many times that it was, even if you say the opposite.

No, they didn't.

They said Ukraine joining NATO was a red line. But Ukraine wasn't even considering joining NATO. So, it was just a justification.

Don't blindly believe what the Kremlin says.

bass4funk

Most of Obama's EO's were reversed by Trump.

Exactly, now you just made my point for me, Biden reversed Trump's and he can un-reverse them, that is one of the unique powers of the President.

Yeah, except the EO's Biden reversed weren't working and inhumane. That's why he reversed them.

itsonlyrocknroll

That is a very pertinent question stormcrow.

Never has a former President been subjected to such persecution

Nixon was tremendously persecuted for interfering with investigations, destroying evidence, paying hush money, Watergate etc.

Blacklabel

So what’s the state specific felony that makes supposed “falsifying business records” not a simple misdemeanor like the law says?

"and intent to commit another crime"

So now it's a felony.

bass4funk

EO's don't work. Certainly Trump's border EO's didn't. 

They do work, they worked for Biden, they worked for every President in history. Look, you can tell that in your country, please don’t tell me, it’s a bit insulting actually.

Most of Obama's EO's were reversed by Trump. Those obviously haven't worked. And Trump's border EO's didn't work in reducing border traffic.

I will listen to the border patrol agents 

They wanted the bipartisan bill, but Trump denied them.

Ramsey's Kitchen

If Ukraine falls, Putin will expand further. Ukraine is America's red line.

Wasn't Ukraine Russia's red line?

No.

itsonlyrocknroll

2020hindsights, there is a clear political agenda in play to this sorry excuse of a "trial" to remove Trump from not only campaigning, but whole democratic process.

Nope. There isn't.

Judge Merchan should recuse himself.

Why?

There is a clear pollical conflict of interests, Merchan family have links to lobbyists on behalf of democratic candidates.

That isn't even close to a conflict of interests.

Merchan was politically compromised day one.

The case has nothing to do with politics, so he can't be compromised.

Yrral

These are foundations of the US Constitution

Sure. But they aren't the foundations of US foreign policy.

Blacklabel

So basically none of this is about actual crime- it’s about the left trying to make Trump look worse than Biden.

The left aren't involved.

And if Trump is eventually convicted of the crime, how he looks is a fair reflection of reality.

itsonlyrocknroll

You don't need to be Trump supporter to question the validity, the political motivation in this horror show media circus, of blatant misuse of the US Judiciary.

Have a look at how Trump's DOJ interfered with Michael Cohen's case on the same matter. They pushed the prosecutors in that case to remove sections of the 2018 charging document that implicated Trump.

Now that's evidence of using your power to influence the DOJ for your own gain.

There is no evidence of political influence in this case though.

It's gross, its undemocratic, it is unconstitutional. it is focused on removing a candidate from the democratic process.

Nope. It is not. There is no link to politics at all.

Let the people decide who stands for government, honest debate is the hallmark of a healthy free society.

They can decide who stands for government in November. This has nothing to do with that.

Not some unelected politically motivated prejudiced Judge.

Again. The judge is not politically motivated or prejudiced.

Blacklabel

A potential juror: heeee looked at meeee when I was speaking bad about him.

judge: witness intimidation!

Don't you mean juror intimidation?

The judge is experienced, so I would trust him to determine juror intimidation.

All this is so getting overturned in a non rigged appeals court with a non biased judge.

There is no evidence that the judge is biased.

Also, isn't it a bit early about talking about appeals - let's wait to see how the case plays out.

Blacklabel

Yeah, Americans aren’t really supportive of this nonsense trial.

wait until Cohen or Stormy try to testify, the voting public are not going to believe a word they say.

The voting public don't determine the outcome of the case.

rcch

Only about one-third of U.S. adults say Trump did something illegal in the hush money case for which jury selection began Monday. 

Interesting considering the case hasn't started and evidence hasn't been produced.

These polls are meaningless.