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The Palestinian agenda to commit genocide to Israel is not only criminal but also disastrous for the Palestinians themselves.

These puerile attempts to deny agency to a people with a post 2000 year history

The Arabs arrived to the land in the 7th century AD, within the framework of the Arab/Muslim conquest of the entire Middle East. This conquest went as far as the Iberian Peninsula. Interestingly, there has been cooperation between Jews and Muslims, in the Iberian peninsula, and also in the pertinent land (the land of origin of the Jews), wherein the cooperated against the crusaders. The Mosque in Jerusalem with the golden cap, agjacent to the al Aqsa mosque, is called Beit el Makdas in Arabic, after the ancient Jewish Beit Hamikdash which used to reside in the same place.

Both the Palestinian Arabs and the Israeli Jews have roots in the land, which has become the land of TWO peoples.

"As well as UN resolution 181, another UN Resolution, number 242, requires Israel to withdraw from the borders of territories occupied before 1967 in exchange for lasting peace in the area."

(My emboldening - NB)

Right!

Beautiful and Historical photo's thank you for sharing JT.

There is no beauty in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. This is a cruel, stupid and mainly redundant conflict. The two nations could have lived excellent life together in two states (one of them mixed) since long ago. Why glorifying such a conflict? Why cuddling with such photos? Why embracing death, Jihad, and silly martyrdom?

POTUS can say "Send the Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt, just clean the place out " and this is simply repeated and reported....

But when I write, rhetorically, "Send the Israeli Jews back to Europe " the comment is deleted.

The Palestinians can stay in Jordan and Egypt temporarily and safely, in order to return after their homes are rebuilt. If the Israeli Jews are sent to Europe, as you want and as you propose, they will be murdered there in gas chambers, as well as using other cruel methods, as already happened in the 1940s.

Isaac and Ismail had a common primordial father – Avraham, or Abraham, or Ibrahim. The prevailing and rooted narrative/myth that claims that one nation is native/indigenous and the other nation is a stranger colonialist is historically twisted and wrong, and does not apply. Among other fallacies, this narrative/myth ignores the fact that millions from one of the two nations were exterminated systematically in the 1940s. Besides, at least half of the world consists of nations that are colonialist indeed. Nearly all the population of this planet are descendants of immigrants. Nobody proposes to slaughter all these nations using cannibalistic methods, or to uproot them. The reality is very simple: There are TWO nations between the river and the sea, namely the Arabic Palestinian nation and the Israeli Jewish nation. BOTH nations deserve to live and to exist. The catastrophic fact that these two nations do not coexist in cooperation, mutual prosperity, happiness and fraternity, already since the 1940s, is one ugly manifestation of the unlimited narrow-mindedness, cruelty and stupidity of the human race.

The prevailing attitude regarding the Middle East problem is detached from reality and distorted morally. There are TWO nations between the river and the sea, namely the Arabic Palestinian nation and the Israeli Jewish nation. BOTH nations deserve to live and to exist.

I deny all your allegations. There are two nations between the river and the sea, namely the Arabic Palestinian nation and the Israeli Jewish nation. Both nations deserve to live and to exist.

WOW, What happened !?? A change of Heart? LOL

My standpoint is very consistent. The other day I wrote as follows:

"There are two nations between the river and the sea, namely the Arabic Palestinian nation and the Israeli Jewish nation. Both nations deserve to live and to exist. The state of Israel and the state of Palestine should exist side by side."

There is no future in war - only death and destruction, for the sake of what? The Palestinian pseudo-religious insistence on committing genocide to Jews is madness, and is in fact counter-religious. The two nations could have been living side by side and could have been cooperating and enjoying prosperity, modernity, wealth and mutual cultural enrichment for 78 years already.

There is no future in war.

The Palestinians should agree to the two-state solution (the Arab state of Palestine, and the state of Israel - a refuge for Jews and for Judaism, but at the same time a mixed home for both Jews and Arabs).

All the blame for the redundant tragedy rests on the cannibalistic gang of Hamas, which launched a grand massacre in order to thwart the Saudi peace effort.

So, again, BOTH those the Scofflaw regime releases and those the Government of Gaza release are either 'hostages' or 'prisoners'

Richard, isn't there a difference, really, between prisoners and hostages? Are the notion of prisoner and the notion of hostage really overlapping? The following Wikipedia article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kidnappings:_2020%E2%80%93present

Gives a List of kidnappings: 2020–present. Similar lists refer to earlier periods. Does the term "prisoner" befits those mentioned in the lists just as the term "hostage"?

Also, you do not recognize Israel, but you recognize the terrorist Hamas gang, which terrorizes the Gazans themselves, as "the Government of Gaza". Nice.

Which of the two nations is trying to commit genocide to the other since before 1948? Which of the two nations is rejecting the two-state solution (according to which one of the two states is mixeed)? Which of the two nations launched the 1948 war and launched a grand massacre in 2023? Which of the two nations perpetrates terrorism against the civilian population of the other nonstop? Which of the two nations scuttles every peace initiative? Which of the two nations adopts Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" warmly?

Capuchin,

The latest figure on total number killed during the October 7 massacre, based on social security data, is 1,175, of whom 379 were from Israeli security forces and 796 were civilians (725 Israeli and 71 foreign). 26.6% of those killed were female. Initially up to 1,400 people were reported killed; on November 10, this was revised to 1,200, before being revised further in December. The casualties included 36 children; the youngest person killed was 10 months old, and 25 were people over age 80. The massacre is considered the bloodiest day in Israel's history, and the deadliest for Jews since the Holocaust.

The Palestinians were killed as Israel was trying to fend off the massacre.

Kfir Bibas, a 9 months old baby, was kidnapped by Hamas on October 7 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_the_Bibas_family

Among those who were kidnapped by Hamas on October 7 is Kfir Bibas, who was 9 months old on that day, and his brother Ariel, 4 years old. Their grandmother and grandfather, Margit and Yossi Silberman, were murdered in the massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_the_Bibas_family

Should I point out that the conditions in the notorious jails of the Scofflaw regime include torture, rape, murder by 'guards', plus a lack of food as apparent in the photos of those released last time around.

This is libel.

Among those that were kidnapped ny Hamas on October 7 is Kfir Bibas, who was 9 months old on that day, and his brother Ariel, 4 years old. Their grandmother and grandfather were murdered in the massacre.

The hostages are held by Hamas in tunnels tunnels, without food and hygyenic conditions, and are being tortured.

There is a difference between abducting people at random, just because they belong to a certain ethnic group, and arresting specific people.

This is outdated Israeli propaganda debunked over 1 year ago

The denial and distortion generated by the Palestinian propaganda machine do not work.

The fact is that Hamas would never have come into existence if it weren't for the Israeli occupation.

Hamas is not a remedy for a problem. It is the source of a problem.

Hamas is a descendent of those extremists among the Palestinians who refused to coexist with the Jews already in the 1940s.

We have two nations on the same land. This is a simple reality. Both nations have roots in the land, and have good reasons to stay on it. Any ambition of any of the two nations to have exclusive ownership of the land and wipe out the other is madness.

One of the two nations has endorsed the two-state solution, according to which there should be two states, with one of the two states being mixed. The other nation refuses, and insists on commiting genocide to the other.

Like the good God fearing Christian slave owners of Virginia did after the Turner Rebellion, the Israelis have extracted a terrible cost on their 'inferiors' for revolting against decades of cruelty and injustice and oppression and constricted lives.

And, like with the Turner Rebellion, there are two narratives about what happened, the first to be embraced in the White House one of totally unjustified mindless savagery against the 'superiors' (as exemplified in the first movie titled Birth of a Nation) and the second that wasn't welcomed among those that counted in Washington (but we'll known amongst the people who built the White House and so many of the other landmarks) of abused people driven beyond every conceivable limits of acceptance who struck back as portrayed in the second movie titled Birth of a Nation.

PS, both the situations that the rebellions were against are recognized in international law as Crimes Against Humanity, though America hasn't fully acknowledged that reality

The analogy between the Turner rebellion and the massacre perpetrated by Hamas is utterly baseless. This is a blasphemy of the slave's struggle. Hamas is not "revolting against decades of cruelty and injustice and oppression and constricted lives". Hamas is a pro-Hitler entity that strives to commit genocide to another nation, and is willing to sacrifice their own nation on the way. The Palestinian Arabs could have opted to live a prosperous life side by side with the Israeli Jews, in their own state of Palestine. In fact, the other state, the state of Israel, is itself a mixed state and a home for both Jews and Arabs.

According to the ceasefile agreement, Palestinian prisoners should be released in return for the release of Israeili hostages. If the hostages are not released, the agreement will become void.

According to the ceasefile agreement, Palestinian prisoners should be released in return for the release of Israeili hostages. If the hodtages are not released, the agreement will become void.

Some newspeople, to provide a fig leaf of 'balance'

What do you propose? Do you propose that one nation will commit genocide to the other? Do you propose that the two nations will commit genocide to each other?

What a narrowness of thought.

The two peoples could have prospered and thrived together already since long ago, without a single casualty and without a single refugee.

The Arabs and the Jews have two options. The first option is to live and let live. The second option is to kill and exterminate each other.

Their land is where they came from in Europe like Poland, Germany, Hungary, Ukraine, and so on.

These lands like Poland, Germany, Hungary, Ukraine are the lands were they were murdered in gas chambers and other cruel methods.

The Jews returned to their land of origin, which was invaded by Muslims in the 7th century AD. But what about various other immigrants throughout the world? Do you propose to butcher them all along with their children?

One of the many pro-Palestinian commenters here said the following words on a similar page the other day:

Victory to Hamas, The IDF is defeated. Hamas won the battle of Gaza and will soon win the war. Israel population is now a minority and will not last the year. Hoo Hah Hamas.

(my emboldening - NB)

Yes, you want that the Jewish immigrants, who immigrated back to their land of origin after surviving the 1940s in Europe, will all perish soon under the knives of Hamas, with their children, and will not last the year. Yet at this moment we are still alive:

https://youtu.be/9AxRoqUFhwI

Jews who migrated from Europe with their Zionist ideology are the cause of conflict due to their falls claims to the land of Palestine.

That is totally incorrect. They did not claim exclusive ownership of the land, and you forgot the reason and the background that led them to migrate. Anyway, these are the Palestinians who claim exclusive ownership of the land at this very moment, refuse to share the land with the other ethnic group, and strive to slaughter the other ethnic group - children and elderly, women and men.

The Jewish refugees who escaped back to their ancient land of origin, after being persecuted and murdered in millions in Europe and other places, and being gased in the gas chambers, are not colonialists. They are the original natives of the land. A Jewish presence remained in the land all along. The Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews, and others who went to other diasporas, as well as those who never left the land, all belong to the same nation. Those immigrants who have returned came in order to live together with the Arabs; The Palestinians Arabs came to the land in the 7th century AD, with the Muslim imperialist/colonialist conquest of the entire Middle East.

The Jews are not colonialists at all. They are the true indigenous people of the land. But what about the real colonialists? Do you propose to slaughter all of them with their children? Do you propose to slaughter all the whites in America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand with their children? Do you propose to slaughter all the Africans who have been brought to America from Africa with their children? Do you propose to slaughter all the people of Spanish and Portuguese descent in Latin America with their Children? Do you propose to slaughter all the Japanese people who pushed away the Ainu people, and actually decimated the Ainu people and committed genocide to them, with their children? Do you propose to slaughter all the immigrants in the world, and all the people who moved from place to place due to various circumstances, with their children?

The Jewish nation is the only nation in the world which is a target for total extermination. But if this nation is exterminated, the exterminators will be exterminated too. The Jews will not die alone. In any case, the contributions of the Jewish nation to humankind, from the bible to the theory of relativity, are indelible.

By pursuing the genocidal slogan "free Palestine from the river to the sea", which intention is to cleanse the land entirely from the other ethnic group, the Palestinians will only bring further disasters, and much bigger, upon themselves. It is impossible to free a land by removing another ethnic group which also resides on that land. It did not work in Rwanda, and it cannot work anywhere. It is not possible to rehabilitate the rights of one nation by butchering another nation.