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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

Sorry, this is the full link to the Italian article

https://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/2020/04/08/news/coronavirus_ecco_come_funzionera_la_app_italiana_per_combattere_la_pandemia-253498265/

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@Fuzzy: European Countries are working for their own contact tracing apps. I will link this article about France

https://www.google.com/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2020/04/08/france-is-officially-working-on-stop-covid-contact-tracing-app/amp/

How you can see, European governments know how difficult is to make European people accept this kind of stuff, because we aren't Koreans or Singaporeans.

This article (it's in Italian, sorry) explains how the Italian tracing contact system will be different from the Korean one, so we can relax ourselves:

coronavirus_ecco_come_funzionera_la_app_italiana_per_combattere_la_pandemia-253498265/

Let's see what will happen. My point is that it's useless to compare South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore with Western democracies. It's not like European Countries don't have the technology to do what those East Asian Countries did. The main problem here is ethical, and it's about how the citizens feel about their personal rights and freedoms.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@Fuzzy: no, you didn't read it, since they clearly spoke about contact tracing, made mainly by what you are calling tracking.

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Posted in: Taiwan demands apology from WHO chief over virus 'slander' See in context

I understand you are all defending Taiwan because it is against China bla bla bla but I am speaking about another thing...People can't be objective at all apparently. I wonder why in Taiwan the situation is so drastically different from what is happening in Western Europe, and no, it's obvious they aren't doing any social distance, despite what most of news tell us.

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Posted in: Taiwan demands apology from WHO chief over virus 'slander' See in context

To people who are putting thumbs down to me: please, tell me, how do you call that "social distance"? I am speechless.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@SJ: yeah, I got the feeling South Koreans don't care about their privacy at all. Look at this

https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=287621

I don't know why we need a "face pay" system... seriously, I don't even.

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Posted in: Taiwan demands apology from WHO chief over virus 'slander' See in context

@The original wing: oh, maybe because I saw also situations way worse than that. Look at this pic:

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3913133

"Market visitors in Taiwan Thursday April 9"

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@Fuzzy: read the article that I linked you, please.

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Posted in: Taiwan demands apology from WHO chief over virus 'slander' See in context

Look at the pic. That's how you do "social distance". Facepalm. But magically everything is good there...

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Posted in: Countries start thinking about easing restrictions, even as virus death toll rises in Europe, U.S. See in context

"Phase two", how they call it in Italy, will be very slow and progressive. It will include the use of massive tracing system by app smartphones like those used in China and South Korea.

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Posted in: Countries start thinking about easing restrictions, even as virus death toll rises in Europe, U.S. See in context

What Reziger said isn't true, also patients who are suffering of other illnesses are included in the covid-19 death toll in Italy.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@flowers: I don't think the tracking system is useful at all, unlike other things. But don't worry, it will be adopted also in Western Countries during "phase two"...

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@flowers: people are also in denial about what the "contact tracing" used in South Korea is actually, despite the article that I linked explains everything. The point is that how you said, if China uses this system, it's bad. If the same system is used in South Korea (whose government and society is anyway very different from a Western democracy, and strongly influenced by Confucianism), or in Singapore, which they forget conveniently being a totalitarian regime too, well this system is "good". These people's incoherence is so blatant and showed by their political bias.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@Fuzzy

read this article please:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00740-y

It explains what they mean by "contact tracing". It's exactly what I said.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@Fuzzy: contact tracing implied also the tracking system by Internet. Anyway I prefer honestly articles how this one, in terms of analysis.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2020/apr/06/coronavirus-american-reaction-economy-covid-19

It's about the US, but every Country should ask itself where it actually failed in these years, especially in terms of healthcare and social equality. I think valuations of this kind are more important than how good IT technology can be in a pandemic.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

This virus is REALLY bad, it's a tragedy. But I dont think the main solution is in IT technologies, and this looks to be the message. I think the key is in a strong and well prepared healthcare system, and civic education about public hygienic norms, including the use of masks, basically not existing in Europe before this pandemia. The situation in Europe is particularly bad because of the cuts made in the healthcare systems for years, probably in Countries like South Korea and Taiwan the healthcare system is in a way better shape. But I often see way more emphasis about the role of internet in succeeding against the virus than in having a functional healthcare system.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

After all, tracing system and a cashless society is always better than a complete lockdown. This is basically the message.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@SJ: yeah, everyone should learn from South Korea, especially about how tracing people. Because when China does it, it's scary...but if it's South Korea...

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

Someone could also say that today it's impossible to go out without your smartphone, but how Luddite said, someone could remove the battery, go to many different places, and put the battery only when he needs to call someone or check his emails.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

I'd like that people that praise these models told us how we are wrong when we say that there's the possibility that someone leaves the phones at home, or that the system have some bugs. But I guess they are not able to reply.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

@Luddite: exactly, if someone leaves the phone at home, he can't be traced obviously. He can cheat the authorities, because the tracing system will say he is at home, while he can go to spread the virus everywhere. Plus, there's always the possibility that some bugs can give incorrect data. These articles, that look like huge advertising for this kind of technology, don't consider absolutely the most obvious limits of this "tracing system" thing. It's all rainbow and unicorns. If they want to trace people seriously, besides using smartphones and digital payments, maybe they should implant some microchips in our bodies...At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if this became an idea.

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

Bill Gates, a notorious epidemiologist, praised Taiwan's and other "tracing system Countries models". In Japan, CEOs like Son an Mikitani, other notorious epidemiologists, told what the government should do. When I said "epidemiologist", I was ironic, of course.

Countries like China and South Korea, are Countries where the society is almost completely cashless already. South Korea in particular. It looks like if your society is cashless and internet is widespread in your life, you can treat with coronavirus well. The Countries where IT technologies are less developed, and not because there's not the technical ability to do it, but because there is some resistance from the population, afraid for civil rights, privacy, tracing of any single payment, etc., are huge victims of this virus and failures. There's a lot of material for deep reflections...

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Posted in: In Asia, bucking the global lockdown trend See in context

Basically, all these articles do is saying mainly that contact tracing is the way, despite also common sense says that it's not so trustworthy (if people let their phones at home, they can't be tracked). We are in the situation where we have IT companies CEOs saying to us like the emergency should be handled (naturally with solutions that give huge advantages to their business). If all this isn't a bit...oh well.

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Posted in: Japan to boost Avigan drug stockpile to fight coronavirus See in context

Germany will buy millions of packs of Avigan:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brecorder.com/2020/04/03/586201/germany-to-purchase-anti-influenza-drug-avigan-from-japan-to-treat-coronavirus/amp/

Millions, uh? Interesting enough for a drug that they say is still being tested.

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Posted in: Abe cautious about declaring emergency despite spike in virus cases See in context

@dougthehead13: Spain is the only Country in Europe that I see in a similar situation to Italy. Maybe also France, but not at the same level. I don't know exactly why in our Countries the virus is so aggressive. Honestly, it's not like the other European Countries reacted so fast or better. I believe we have also the strictest laws about lockdown. I wish you all the best.

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Posted in: Abe cautious about declaring emergency despite spike in virus cases See in context

I don't get the thumbs down. You must prepare yourself for a very long period of limitations, it's a fact. But these limitations aren't the same in every Country, so maybe I should have said that how much they will be able to affect your life is obviously related to how much strict they will be.

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Posted in: Abe cautious about declaring emergency despite spike in virus cases See in context

The lockdown could be necessary, but remember that it can destroy people emotionally if it's done for real, not only like some kind of "voluntary social distance". So, prepare yourselves, especially if you live alone. You will experience some kind of freedom limitations and loneliness that you never tried in your Country, if you lived in a Western democracy.

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Posted in: Tokyo area sees daily coronavirus cases top 100 for first time See in context

@Akie: thanks.

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Posted in: Tokyo area sees daily coronavirus cases top 100 for first time See in context

@tooltalk: yeah, Italy joined China's Silk Road Initiative. And? Are you implying we were "punished" by someone for that? I don't know it anymore.

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Posted in: Tokyo area sees daily coronavirus cases top 100 for first time See in context

@tooltalk: in Pronto? Maybe you mean in Prato. I know only something really bad is happening in my Country, and we Italians are doing way more efforts and sacrifices than people did in S.Korea, Taiwan or Singapore. But this virus continues to spread highly anyway. There's something really weird and scary.

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