anon99999 comments

I fully concur with Strangerland.

Rather than impossible to delay the Olympics again it will simply prove impossible to hold them, because the virus will not be over and even in the remote event it was the economic aftermath would be far from over. Mori's opinion will mean nothing if no one can come.

Koike was rather silent when the Olympic dream was in full swing earlier in the year, despite Blind Freddy being able to see it was going to be cancelled or postponed back in February, if not January. And she only came awake after the belated acknowledgement of the obvious.

Tokyo-Engr

http://www.moj.go.jp/content/001318288.pdf

http://www.moj.go.jp/content/001316999.pdf

I am confused...maybe that is the proof you want. My wife could not believe this so she called herself.

Yes thank you for that information. I feel as outraged as you. These seem widely unpublicised and I am sure most foreign residents of Japan do not know about this. I think many would feel likewise

The main point of this story is that they caught it from someone from Nagaski, when they visited Nagasaki or via some contact. That means that same person has been spreading it around Nagasaki. Perhaps they should test the citizens of Nagasaki and find out how many of them have it. It may spread a little slower than on the ship but still it is spreading. Preliminary results coming out on the antibody testing in New York shows the disease has been spreading far earlier and wider than thought. Number infected are hugely over the official numbers. Anyone willing to doubt Japan is the same probably more so since the testing is among the lowest in the world,

I have also confirmed through immigration that if we leave Japan (even those of us married to a Japanese national) we cannot re-enter, although our spouse would be able to do so.

You are saying PERMANENT residents of Japan will not be able to return to Japan now if they go overseas.

But their spouse and children, if Japanese can.

Please provide your proof from immigration.

I think they should also ask pole to visit the izakayas and Pachinko parlours ( still open see other story) every 3 days as well. Why do they discriminate against people buying food!

Just ask people to visit pachinko every 3 days. Problem solved!

The number of cases in Tokyo remain under 200 daily because of the lack of testing. Surely anyone can understand if you limit testing you can only find a limited number of cases. Obviously this does not mean there are no more cases and there is ample evidence there are more such as the recent story of someone dying in the street, and the fact that the source of infection of over half of those daily 200 can NOT be traced which means they got it from someone else with the virus out in the community.

Meanwhile the nth time Abe says we are approaching the "critical" time whilst not changing the testing policy nor providing real economic help for people to stay home. No one is listening and we have already well and truly passed that time anyhow. Japan might as well adopt the same policy as Sweden and just go for the herd immunity, whatever the cost, because in effect that is what is happening in Japan anyhow. I would not be surprised to see the emergency cancelled in May despite the daily increase in cases and deaths.

It would be better to have a clear plan than the directionless mixed messages that is happening now.

And who gets these masks? How are they distributed? I wonder if we will see Abe with a new mask soon.

The message is not reaching people because of the limited restricted testing. It produces a picture that the situation is all good in Japan. Tokyo can never go much over 200 cases a day due to the obvious limit on tests so compared to other places in the world Japan looks like it is smooth sailing and missed out. Many posters in the comments on this site are keen to remind us of this at every occasion how lucky Japan is and it has no problem quoting the proof of the low numbers. Therefore why would anyone who believes the official numbers a take any notice of his request.. It contradicts his own propaganda that he created first for the Olympics and still perpetuates.

I start to think nothing will change the Japanese behaviour. Even if the hospitals fill up and the deaths mount, it still won't make any difference because there still won't be more testing so it will never be from the virus, the official numbers will remain low and nothing will change. Japan can never have a problem.

Interesting how with oil prices so massively low they have only dropped a little here in Japan.

In Australia now they are around half the cost of Japan. ( Normally they are close though varying with the exchange rate so recently lower but never as disparate as now) Someone is making a huge profit here in Japan and it is not the consumer! Would be nice to see the government do something about this or are they part of those profiting.

I agree with many here. Freedom of right is the only thing that matters. Everyone has the right to travel in GW and spread the disease to every corner of the country to their family, relatives and especially most vulnerable grandparents. Also they have the rights to go to Tokyo and Osaka to catch it and then bring it back with therm to infect their friends and teachers. Freedom of Rights is the only thing that matters in Japan

When is enough enough? Tokyo is about to face a serious virus problem and they still go on about the Olympics which will not happen in 2021 no matter what they say. Even 2022 is doubtful as all predictions see this lasting till then. World travel is not going to suddenly snap back either. The world will not be the same as 2019 for some time. Better to think about getting money for the hospitals that are almost at breaking point. Better to start trying to save lives than discussing this not happening event.

Yes keep the flights going. Make sure they facilitate spreading the disease to more places in Japan. Especially GW they should increase flights so people from the big cities can go to every corner of Japan and infect their family, relatives and especially grand parents. And dont forget allowing all the people who want to visit the big cities so they can catch the disease and then bring it back home later.

Freedom of business and travel, dont worry about people's health. This is Japan!

Abe is now visibly worried. Perhaps he has finally realised what is about to happen in Japan after all this wasted time when Japan could have got ready. He keeps saying please have 80% less contacts. But it is not happening. This is his out. When things get bad he will just say well people didn't take the request so it is not his fault and the Japanese people will for elect him as usual.

And as for GW this is going to compound the problem in Japan massively and he also actually realises this but all he can say is please don't travel in GW. Unfortunately many people don't even hear his plea and will travel to their hometown to spread the disease from the big city and others will travel into the big cities to get the disease to take back to their homes later. Freedom t spread the disease that it was is important in Japan.

Testing will need to ramp up nation wide after GW when people from Tokyo and Osaka spread the virus out to their families, especially grandparents, in every far corner of the country ensuring even a deeper spread of the virus than there is now. Meanwhile when will Japan realise that limiting testing, keeping official numbers low does NOT stop the spread. It only compounds the problem.

you don't need to know every infection to know if there is exponential growth.

So you believe the official number. If there is a limit to testing per day they can never ever show the exponential growth

Olympics will definitely happen

Don't believe he ever said that.

Not sure how you believe that either as he said it numerous time

here is an example

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-06/japan-s-abe-says-olympics-won-t-be-postponed-amid-virus-fears

No emergency for Tokyo

I think Tokyo was the main reason he called a state of emergency.

Finally after saying it was not necessary for a long time

And next 

No overshoot

Similar to exponential growth, there are no signs of this yet.

I would argue the steadily rising numbers of deaths do also show the overshoot is on its way, along with the news reported last night that many hospitals are reaching capacity point. But maybe you'd don't believe them either.

Anyhow you can believe there are no signs YET. Unfortunately a little late when YET becomes oh sorry it is happening now, just like oops Olympics postponed from this year now because of the virus.

@anon999

"Here is another link"

No. that is a news site. You said REPORT. Where is the REPORT?

I expect that the Prime Minister of Australia must have seen it before he made his comment in the news.

He has much better access to such reports than I do.

People travelling in Golden week especially from the big cities will spread the disease even further and deeper into every corner of the rest of the country. Failure of the government to at least recommend, if not enforce, no travel in Golden Week at this time will compound a bad situation immeasurably! It is beyond comprehension that they seem happy for this to happen. Where I am the majority of cases are tracked back to people who visited Tokyo or Osaka areas. Just imagine what an influx of people from those places will do to very town, village and city in Japan!

Someone else told me they heard the masks can be compared to wooden stakes given to people to fight the American invasion in WW2.

anon9999

"Someone else posted it above"

BS...

Here is another link

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/morrison-chides-who-as-wet-markets-reopen-in-china-s-coronavirus-epicentre

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” -Trump

So Trump being also wrong makes everything that WHO did right?

And when Trump dis something right banning travel from China the WHO strongly criticised him.

Ever heard of two wrong do not make a right?

WHO is a criminal organisation just as Trump is an incompetent president but he is right not to fund them. Let their masters in China do that,

New report that they back China in the reopening of their wet markets!

@Anon

Please provide evidence!

Someone else posted it above

There was no plan B to the current postponement but of course circumstances gave them no choice. The same will apply to next year as Japan and the world will not be able to hold it next year. In the end you can't have an Olympics just because you say so if no one can come.

It would be a far better idea to reallocate the millions being spent on this towards the hospitals in Tokyo which by their own admissions are not prepared, already approaching capacity and running out of equipment. And this is the early stage and it is just about to get really serious.

When the food supplies dwindle as the virus spreads rampant across Japan forcing breakdown of the supply chains maybe people will be praising their foresight.

Last night hews Abe said he cares for people and the economy and there is no overshoot in Japan and new stimulus package next week. He clearly doesn’t know the meaning of exponential growth, doesn’t watch any world news and/ or maybe he actually believes the completely ridiculous official numbers from Japan severely limited testing. ( Real numbers could be any time higher from 10 to 100 or more, but anybody knows they are not even remotely close to the official).

His record till now

Olympics will definitely happen

No emergency for Tokyo

And next 

No overshoot

How good is WHO

New report that they back China in the reopening of their wet markets!

I hate Trump but this is his first correct decision.

He should go further and prosecute Tedros as a war criminal.

Disease doesn't spread by human contact.

World travel should not be stopped. (Trump is wrong to close travel with China)

China doing a great job (whilst covering up and persecuting the person who tried to get the news out)

Not a world emergency

Then later not a pandemic

And now even WHO still saying masks NOT necessary and disease does NOT spread from asymptomatic or non symptomatic carriers! Both these ideas are universally accepted as blatantly WRONG

No problem. This is Japan people just keep working, getting their hair done and going to Izakayas. What happens in the hospitals clearly doesn't matter in this country, (except for the % that falls ill from the virus and worse, but even then it won't be credited to the virus because one can't get tested and one wouldn't want to meddle with the low statistics that prove there is no problem in Japan). All this time to prepare seeing what is going on in Europe and the US and next to nothing done. Suddenly now those in the health system realise there might be problem.

Foreigners such as myself just need to understand this is Japan. The Japanese will just say, it cant be helped, it was inevitable!

Now imagine if the Olympics hadn't been cancelled and we had 500,000 to 1,000, 000

visitor on our hands what would have happened

So do you actually think if they had not cancelled the Olympics this year 500,000 to 1,000,000 people would still have come to Tokyo? Rather difficult with the current world situation, regulations and state of world air travel. The Olympics was not going to happen this year whatever they decided,

At least this guy is facing up to the possibility that it most likely will not be that different next year and the Olympics will not be happening then either, irrespective of whether they say to cancel it or not.

This virus is not gong away in a couple months. Experts worldwide are agreed it will last 18 months or more till a vaccine is found and universally distributed and even then the world will not be able to suddenly snap back to where it was. An Olympics next year will not be happening.