Antiquesaving comments

I don't use social media much if at all.

I have a business FB and IG and "hate groups" conspiracy theorist " etc..are a very rare thing unless you go looking for them.

But all the crying, complaining, whining, special interest groups are far more present, far more annoying, far more active and will threaten, attack, harass you and anyone they don't agree with!

UChosePoorly

Today 11:14 am JST

Russia doesn’t get to tell Ukraine what to do, who they can ally with, who they can trade with.

And why not?

The USA does it all the time, so does the EU, the IMF, etc..

It is funny how " sovereignty" is only important when the western nations are not the ones doing the dictating!

UChosePoorly

Today 10:42 am JST

Russia have will to win and to protect its national interests.

> After almost 2 years of fending off their much larger neighbor, you don’t think Ukraine has the will to win and protect its interests? You guys have no understanding of Ukrainian mind.

Actually we do, Zelenski and his gang have sacrificed an entire generation of young men!

The men so much do not want to fight that they've increased the patrols along their borders to stop men from fleeing. This was reported by BBC and by all the countries surrounding Ukraine.

Time magazine points out that the average age of Ukrainian soldier is now 43 as opposed to in July 2022 it was 30.

Even the US has given up trying to cover up the reality and now says over 120,000 Ukrainian soldiers are dead and 500,000 are wounded.

So zelinski is now sending old men and middle-aged men to fight clinging to a fantasy that somehow Russia is just going to pack its bags and go home!

2020hindsights

Today 07:15 am JST

They have been losing an incredible average of 930 men a day, they highest rate of loss in the war - even higher than Bakhmut.

Where is your source on that? Ukraine?

Here is the reality, nothing Ukraine says can be trusted in the same way nothing Russia says can.

Ukraine had made incredible claims and we are now finding out most were just fantasy!

Even Time magazine has pointed this out!

At this point Ukrainian military is so depleted that Time magazine reported that the average age of Ukrainian soldiers is 43 years old!

In july 2022 the average age was 30 and a strength of 700,000 personnel!

What happened to all those young men that now the Ukrainian military is well into their mid 40s?

Ukraine claims 35,000 killed 100,000 captured or wounded.

Seriously! 700,000 military personnel in July 2022 average age 30 now the average age is 43 and we are told by Ukraine it only lost 150,000 casualties!

But even the USA is no longer going along with this fantasy.

USA now says Ukraine has lost over 120,000 killed and half a million wounded!

Now they are using old men and middle aged men pulled off the streets even though under the draft men of that age with children are exempt!

We need to stop this fantasy that Russia is going to pack up and leave, the fantasy Ukraine is going to take back everything!

Time to start talking and stop the rah rah rah, miracle weapons are coming, willpower will overcome, etc..

https://defenceforchildren.org/hrc53-side-event-childhood-in-captivity-palestinian-children-arbitrarily-detained-in-israeli-prisons/

Israeli authorities systematically disregard and deny fundamental protections and guarantees concerning the right to a fair trial.

Israeli authorities’ use of administrative detention, or detention without charge or trial, against Palestinian children.

Both UN experts, Commissioner Kothari and Special Rapporteur Albanese highlighted that the root cause of this issue is the maintenance of the occupation and the expansion of the annexation of Palestinian territory,

Read the full report it is something one would expect in Taliban Afghanistan.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/04/israel-opt-palestinian-administrative-detainees-complete-100-days-of-boycotting-israeli-courts/

“Palestinian human rights defenders, journalists, academics and others have suffered from this cruel and inhuman practice and have been protesting it for decades including through hunger strikes

For decades, Israel has intentionally used administrative detention to detain individuals, including prisoners of conscience held solely for exercising their rights to freedom of expression, assembly and association, to punish them for their views and activism.

Salah Hammouri, a French-Palestinian lawyer, has been in administrative detention since 7 March 2022. For years, the Israeli authorities have repeatedly harassed him, forcing him into multiple periods of administrative detention as well as taking action to revoke his residency status in East Jerusalem.

> Amal Nakleh, an 18-year-old Palestinian who joined the boycott, has been held in administrative detention since 21 January 2021. He suffers from a rare neuromuscular disorder that causes weakness in skeletal muscles; he was 17 at the time of his initial detention. He has since seen his detention renewed three times, including most recently on 18 January 2022, when a military court extended his detention for another four months.

> “Amal Nakleh turned 18 after spending nearly a year in detention without charge. It is already tortuous enough for a family to fret about their child’s deteriorating health without having to suffer the cruelty of limbo in administrative detention. He must be immediately released,” said Saleh Higazi.

Sounds like some banana republic!

This is a democracy?

JboneInTheZone

Today 12:26 pm JST

I picture a person from about 3 years of age to 17. You'd have a point if people were using the term "toddler", but it is perfectly valid and legally correct to use the term "children".

> You’re arguing in bad faith here. A simple Google search of ‘child’ doesn’t bring up anyone that looks around 17 and to say that the majority of people imagine a 17 year old when they hear the word ‘child’ is being dishonest.

Then you are saying the UN is dishonest?

Who is considered a “child”?

> Based on the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, a child means every human being below the age of 18.

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

And you can bet that if the person killed was under 18 and Israeli the news would be calling then children!

The western and Israeli news and government hypocrisy!

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

Extracts:

Who is considered a “child”?

> Based on the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, a child means every human being below the age of 18.

Note the UN definition!

Who is considered a “civilian”?

> In the data presented here, whoever is neither a member of security forces (including police) nor fulfills a combat function within an armed group is considered a civilian. The classification of a casualty as “civilian” does not carry any implication regarding the legality of his or her killing or injury.

Note the Palestinian deaths!

6622 before October 7 the

Note the number killed by air launched weapons 3222

But note the death when "none" is selected, meaning the number of Palestinians killed when no conflict was happening 2556.

How does 2556 people get killed by IDF when no conflicts are going on?

Note that nearly 1000 of those 6622 are from the west bank not Hamas controlled

JboneInTheZone

Today 11:57 am JST

B: a person not yet of the age of majority.

> So let me ask you this. When you hear the word ‘child’, do you immediately picture a 17 year old?

Civilized countries don't execute or kill children 1 month old or 17 years old.

Only places we regularly criticize like Iran etc..

But when Israel does it or it's number one supporter the USA.

Well suddenly we are told to look away and swallow all the excuses given by both!

Remember here how outraged so many were when the woman died in custody of Iran's religious police!

But most of the same people criticizing Iran are now trying to justify the killing of children using semantics.

They try justify the killing of over 6000 Palestinians between 2009 and October 7th, they try justifying the incarceration without trial and without charges of nearly 5000 Palestinians at this time before October 7th.

Funny if this was Iran Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan doing what Israel does and is doing, you would all be up in arms, saying someone needs to stop them.

Today 08:42 am JST

It isn’t an “apartheid” system and doesn’t match the criteria to be defined as one. You could call it a military occupation but apartheid is incorrect.

Lest see, Israel created the Palestinian "self rule" areas on paper, calling them Palestinian territories.

South Africa created the tribal Homelands with "self rule"

Israel controls the borders, immigration, who can and cannot go into the territories, Palestinians need permission to build within their territory from Israel, Israel police and military raid and take people away without charges or trial!

Israel lets Palestinians in to work in Israel as usually cheap manual labour and the return to the Palestinian territories at night!

South Africa apartied controlled the borders, immigration, who can and cannot go into the black homelands they needed permission to build within their territory from the South Africa, apartheid government South Africa apartheid police and military raided and took people away without charges or trial!

South Africa, partied government let Blacks in to work in white south Africa usually as cheap manual labour and the return to the Black homelands at night!

So tell me do you see a difference?

JboneInTheZone

Today 08:19 am JST

Yes, killing minors is more acceptable than children.

> Yes. Saying 3000 Palestinian toddlers were killed versus 3000 Palestinian 17 year olds were killed is a huge difference. They’re both bad but I think everyone would agree one is worse

Ah the Israeli propaganda machine at work!

Trying to justify killing children and dehumanizing Palestinians is the main tactic and until now they had done a good job, but now this false narrative is no longer working.

Bombing schools, UNRWA safe zones killing news reporters is now not as easily covered up or silenced as when everything was controlled by a few major media corporations.

JboneInTheZone

Today 08:17 am JST

You mean good because they are trying to minimize the facts they mean children?

> It’s good because it’s honest. The conflation of minors and children that so many people here do is dishonest and is done in bad faith.

> Which people are really the ones in danger?

> Are you saying Israelis aren’t in danger? Is that what you’d tell to the families of victims from 10/7??

How about the families of the over 6000 Palestinians killed by Israel frim 2009 to before October 7th how about the families of the nearly 5000 Palestinians presently in Limbo custody without charges or trial and the tens of thousands that were previously held for months and years also without charges or trial long before October 7th?

How about the destruction of clean water sources built by the UN by the IDF in the west bank because the Palestinians "May" steal water from illegal settlers?

What do you say to the families with their members killed by IDF and settlers, their loved ones detained without contact or charges, their family without clean water?

Tell use who lives better and safer life Israelis in their apartheid system or the Palestinians!

Who has more chance of being killed Palestinians children or Israeli children?

The numbers don't support Israel's claims!

bass4funk

Today 08:06 am JST

When are the IDF and Netanyahu going to be charged with war crimes!?

> Actually, it should be the leaders of Hamas….or the ones that are still alive should be charged with war crimes.

True, but the leaders of Israel and the IDF have killed, kidnapped, held without charges or trial tens of thousands of Palestinians long before October 7th.

UN numbers of Palestinians killed by Israelis from 2009 to October 7th is well over 6000 over half women and children. Number of Palestinians help without charges, without trial with outside contact is over 4900 some for several years.

Imagine the outrage if this was openly done by Iran, Syria, or any European country!

But no Israel does these things with impunity and has been doing it for decades.

The justification is that israelis are in danger.

Well the number say differently.

Over 6,000 Palestinians killed by IDF and settlers (half women and children) between 2009 and October 7th under 400 Israelis killed by Palestinians in that same period!

sakurasuki

Today 07:24 am JST

If Israel was a Muslim country and those being held without charges or trial were Jewish or Christians the western news would have been all over it!

One woman dies in the custody of the Iranian religious police and it is front page, top news story.

Nearly 5,000 Palestinians are held for as long as several years 6000 plus die by IDF police hands and total silence.

JboneInTheZone

Today 07:02 am JST

More than 13,300 Palestinians have been killed since the war began, roughly two-thirds of them women and minors

> Good reporting here. You often see people citing that number as women and children, not minors like it’s actually referring to

You mean good because they are trying to minimize the facts they mean children?

Oh the pro IDF far right Israeli government reporting is good facts are bad.

Between 2009 and October 7th 2023 well over 6000 Palestinians were killed by IDF and illegal settlers armed by Israel and protected by the IDF , I that same period less than 400 Israelis were killed by Palestinians with over half being women and children!

Israel a supposed democracy has over 4900 Palestinians locked up some for years, no charges, no trial, no access to Legal representation this according to amnesty international and the UN human rights commission.

The IDF is a criminal organisation along with the Israeli government hiding behind the USA Veto power at the UN avoiding all responsibilities and ignoring all UN resolutions against it!

Now add in the 13000 newly killed Palestinians and the 1500 Israelis.

And we have a very lopsided situation.

Fewer than 2000 Israelis killed VS closing in on 20,000 Palestinians since 2009!

We have 240 hostages taken by Hamas VS 4900 plus Palestinians (pre October 7) held without contact or charges by Israel!

Which people are really the ones in danger?

TaiwanIsNotChina

Nov. 28 07:26 am JST

ChabbawangaToday 06:06 am JST

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc5iG3DX7ho

> Independent journalist confirming that the Hamas footage released by the IDF does not contain any beheading of children, evidence of torture, or rape. Horrific nonetheless, but there is no evidence for these claims repeated over and over again by Israel supporters.

> Ah, so just shooting of people running away. Got it.

As opposed to the IDF and Israelis secret police killing thousands of children and locking innocent people up without charges or trials, then claiming self-defense and hiding behind a USA Veto on any investigation or condemnation at the UN.

Talk about cowards!

Attilathehungry

Today 12:08 pm JST

Treated well once in captivity perhaps. After all, they are valuable items for Hamas to use to extract concessions. Plus, captured Hams terrorists have confessed that they were paid substantial bounties for each Israeli kidnapped.

> The torture and rape occurred on October 7, and most of those abused by Hamas were subsequently murdered

There is no justification for Hamas but please give us a break octobre 7!

According to amnesty international, the UN human rights, etc... over 4900 Palestinians are being held without charges, with trial without access to Legal representative, etc.. by Israel government! Some for years!

Before October 7th since 2009 over 6000 Palestinians have been killed bu IDF and vigilanty "settlers" with weapons supplies by the IDF and protected by the IDF!

In that same period less than 400 Israelis were killed by Palestinians.

But if we are to believe the propaganda, it is the Israelis that are the victims and in danger!

Well over 10 times the number of Palestinians killed with over half being women and children according to the UN!

Now the IDF bombs schools UNRWA safe zones, hospitals, etc.. killing well over 10,000 civilians over half being children!

The IDF are war criminals! And the Israeli government is an apartheid enforcement system in violation of human rights and multiple UN resolutions

If forced into something easier to recycle like plastic, the perfect breathing of the cheese through wood might otherwise get sweaty and flabby. Wood, though, is very hard to recycle sustainably, so the EU plans to move it out of food packaging as much as possible.

Are they smoking crack?

Plastic is 1000000 times worse for the environment, trees can be replanted, wood composted!

90% of plastic isn't recycled!

TaiwanIsNotChina

Today 07:19 am JST

Randy DaytonaToday 06:23 am JST

> Ukraine has vowed to fight until the last Russian soldier has left its territory,

> Unless Ukraine runs out of troops.

> Cowardly Russia is quite capable of retreating. Ukraine will not run out of troops with probably some 5 million men of fighting age

Really

Time magazine article pointed out that the present average age of s Ukrainian soldier is 43.

> Not looking good

> But according to U.S. and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war. It has eroded the ranks of Ukraine’s armed forces so badly that draft offices have been forced to call up ever older personnel, raising the average age of a soldier in Ukraine to around 43 years. “They’re grown men now, and they aren’t that healthy to begin with,” says the close aide to Zelensky. “This is Ukraine. Not Scandinavia.”

> https://time.com/6329188/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-interview/

Randy Daytona

Today 06:23 am JST

Ukraine has vowed to fight until the last Russian soldier has left its territory,

> Unless Ukraine runs out of troops.

> Are the Russian soldiers leaving ?

> Not what i read.

Time magazine article pointed out that the present average age of s Ukrainian soldier is 43.

Not looking good

But according to U.S. and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war. It has eroded the ranks of Ukraine’s armed forces so badly that draft offices have been forced to call up ever older personnel, raising the average age of a soldier in Ukraine to around 43 years. “They’re grown men now, and they aren’t that healthy to begin with,” says the close aide to Zelensky. “This is Ukraine. Not Scandinavia.”

https://time.com/6329188/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-interview/

bass4funk

Today 01:07 am JST

You mean like the West Bank

What kind of game are you playing?

even water is an Israeli weapon as the IDF blows up water storage legally constructed by the West Bank PA and the UN!

> According to?

Are you serious?

I even commented directly to you with articles on the subject and by Israeli new itself!

But here again! Please try reading something other than what you are told by Netanyahu!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-razes-homes-water-tanks-in-disputed-west-bank-firing-zone/amp/

https://www.972mag.com/idf-destroys-9-water-tanks-in-parched-palestinian-village/

And plenty more if you really cared about Palestinians as you previously claimed!

Instead of peace, they got suppression, more taking of their land by settlers, more arrests, more killings by settlers and IDF.

> Killings? How many kids were beheaded by Hamas, how many women were kidnapped and raped, beaten?

Again you repeat Israel talking points! Killed yes the rest you and others made up and.

But lets see the numbers.

According to the UN and all other independent rights groups, since 2009 to before October 7th this year 6,500 Palestinians have been killed by IDF and settler attacks and over half were women and children, in that same period under 400 Israelis were killed by Palestinians according to the Israeli government.

Now you were saying something about Hamas killings seems the IDF Even before oct 7th has been doing a bang up job murdering women and children Hamas could learn from the IDF on mass killing women and children!

The PA in the west bank did try, but as is clearly evident it didn't work.

> Better than Gaza, by the way, why is it that these corrupt leaders take the money and spend it on everything else more important than rockets and tunnels to attack Israelis?

Again you skirture the issue you still haven't explained about the West Bank. You keep returning to Gaza saying that the guys are government is corrupt spending money on weapons and tunnels but you still haven't explained how come the West Bank hasn't worked!

You want to pretend that the only thing or the only Palestinian people are the ones in Gaza but they aren't. There's also the West Bank and it's a mess because Israel keeps its boot on the neck of the people there.

Hamas the Palestinians in Gaza the Palestinians and the West Bank know that nothing new will happen.

They understand that the future is only one future one with Israel. Slowly but surely taking all the land and pushing them out. This is been the plan all along, Netanyahu wanted Hamas he wanted this war so he could take that land and just a few days after October 7th he already had the government preparing plans to permanently confiscate the land!

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7015576

An Israeli government document suggesting the mass relocation of Gaza's 2.3 million people to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula is fuelling concerns about the possible ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

> The leaked document, first reported in Israeli media, was compiled by an Israeli government research agency known as the Intelligence Ministry and was dated Oct. 13 —

So again explain to us what is the future of the Palestinians Gaza or the West Bank when Israel will not ever let them have freedom. It is apartheid. It is slavery!

bass4funk

Nov. 11 11:29 pm JST

This is why there is war, this is why Gaza got Hamas, this is why the insane idea that if Hamas is gone things will change.

> So you think Hamas is doing a good job now???

> This is life in the West Bank!

> Hamas squandered so many time the chance to create its own state numerous times.

> This is the only life Palestinians know and the only life Israel and the criminal IDF and Mossad give the Palestinians and will continue to give them.

> No if they REALLY wanted to live peacefully next to the Israelis they could have,

You mean like the West Bank did?

Nice job skirting the issue and ignoring everything in the article I linked!

The PA in the west bank did try, but as is clearly evident it didn't work.

Instead of peace, they got suppression, more taking of their land by settlers, more arrests, more killings by settlers and IDF.

but they don't want to and Hamas will never, ever live next to a Jewish state, just won't happen

What you really mean is Israel will never permit a Palestinian state next to Israel unless it is a slave state one under complete control of everything from entering existing, even water is an Israeli weapon as the IDF blows up water storage legally constructed by the West Bank PA and the UN!

You avoided the question you avoided the facts that your claims of living in peace your claims it is Hamas, the Palestinians don't match the facts.

The West Bank and the supposed peace is a failure, Israel made sure of that by depriving them of everything they needed to build a real futur and Hamas has no control no involvement the support now being seen for Hamas in the West Bank is the result of 56 years of Israeli oppression.

When you treat people like animals, don't complain when they turn around and bite you!

Anonymous

Today 08:45 pm JST

On October 7 Hamas, Iran’s proxy, demonstrated action. Now all we get from them is the word “ceasefire”

Iran proxi?

Perhaps people need to learn the facts and not Israel and USA propaganda!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/hamas-west-bank-palestine-1.7025163

Support for groups like Hamas is actually growing because of Israeli actions, Israeli occupation, Israeli settlers and the slow but sure displacing of Palestinians

More than 700,000 Israelis live on settlements in the West Bank built and supported by the Israeli government, but considered illegal under international law by much of the international community

More than 800 Palestinians have been forcibly displaced by settler violence and increased movement restrictions in the West Bank since Oct. 7, according to the United Nations.

But the failure of that peace to materialize has left support for the PA and its Fatah leadership at an all-time low, seen as weak — even complicit by some — in an Israeli occupation now in its 56th year.

"This will not make us weaker," said Saad Dagher, an agronomist from a neighbouring village who went to school with al Arouri as a child. "On the contrary it makes us, as Palestinians, even stronger."

As of June this year, the Israel Prison Service was holding 4,499 Palestinians in detention on what it defined as "security grounds," according to the human rights organization B'tselem.

Barghouti's husband, Mahmoud, an accountant who works for the PA's department of religious affairs, has been arrested several times before, all but once without being charged.

> He's currently in his 14th month of administrative detention in an Israeli jail, she said. Barghouti believes her son was arrested for supporting the Hamas-linked party that won the student elections at Birzeit University last spring.

Read the full article, this is CBC not some anti-Israeli publication.

This is why there is war, this is why Gaza got Hamas, this is why the insane idea that if Hamas is gone things will change.

This is life in the West Bank!

This is the only life Palestinians know and the only life Israel and the criminal IDF and Mossad give the Palestinians and will continue to give them.

wallace

Today 10:41 am JST

bass4funk

> I support Israel 100%, but I also support Palestinian people and I don’t think Israel should commit to a cease-fire under no circumstances, I think the IDF has to do whatever it can to eliminate the threat of Hamas.

> The first time you have posted a single concern for the Arabs. How about the 8,000 dead women and children Arabs? Any thoughts on that?

Of course he doesn't because like the 2 others here, he doesn't believe the numbers killed because Israel hasn't told him to!

Like the two others the UN is lying, the Indonesian doctors at this Indonesian run hospital, the Palestinians, Arabs etc..are all lying and the only truth is whatever Netanyahu and Israel say!

The IDF are war criminals they are targeting hospitals schools refugee camps, shelters!

This is what the IDF does!

It is their specialty!

Qana massacre:

On April 18, 1996, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) shelled a United Nations (UN) compound in Qana, Lebanon, killing over 100 civilians and wounding hundreds more.

And this list of similar attacks on such places is far too long to list, it seems either the IDF has the worse aim with its guns or the only other conclusion is they do it deliberately!

bass4funk

Today 10:36 am JST

I support Israel 100%, but I also support Palestinian people and I don’t think Israel should commit to a cease-fire under no circumstances, I think the IDF has to do whatever it can to eliminate the threat of Hamas

You mean like arm illegal settlers and blow up water storage in the West Bank!

You mean ethnic cleansing?

That sort of thing that it has been quietly doing in the West Bank as it helps settlers take more territory each year slowly pushing the borders back more and more against supposed agreements!

Is that what you mean by

the IDF has to do whatever it can

??

Blacklabel

Today 09:42 am JST

and Jews being attacked there

> you said killed. Obviously referencing the murder of the Jew by the pro Hamas protester

The problem with this is that the facts don't match the rhetoric.

Since 2009 to before oct 7th over 6,500 Palestinians were killed by Israelis over half women and children, this includes more and more by armed settlers in the west bank in the same period fewer than 400 Israelis were killed by Palestinians.

So in reality it has been Israel doing the killings, it has been the IDF, armed settlers, etc..killing Palestinians.

These are facts long known by the international community and nothing was done.

The false claims that life will be better for Gaza without Hamas is completely nullified by looking at the West Bank.

Settlers increase, new settlements built despite supposed accords, all immigration, construction materials, major construction, even water supply is controlled by Israel and it makes sure it is kept to a level at best.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/west-bank-settlers-violence-israel-palestinians-1.7019263

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-razes-homes-water-tanks-in-disputed-west-bank-firing-zone/amp/

https://www.972mag.com/idf-destroys-9-water-tanks-in-parched-palestinian-village/

The destruction of water cisterns has been a backbone of control!

These are just 2 examples other include excuses like " the cisterns can be used to steel water from settlers".

So lets be honest, the Palestinians in Gaza know very well, Hamas or no Hamas they will be living in an apartheid system with Israeli boots on their necks, and will need to beg Israel for the right to even get water!

claims the militant group and hospital staff deny.

Why did AP forget to mention the following:

The hospital is Indonesian many of the doctors and staff are Indonesian and they are the ones saying the above.

The Indonesian doctors pointed out in other reports that they have over 50 children in ICU and another nearly 50 in NICU in incubators, how are they supposed to move them!

This is such a bias report even CBC wouldn't use it!

But I suspect our resident rah rah rah kill more Palestinians will claim that even these Indonesian doctors and staff are all lying just as they have said the UN is lying!

3RENSHO

Today 04:30 pm JST

"You haven't seen Vancouver lately!"

> Hello JT poster 'Antiquesaving'...I always enjoy your postings. Always vote up. I have visited Vancouver once, around '91 or '92...

> I was walking along Hastings (?...memory fails) Street and a young woman walking in front of me happened to be eating a piece of fried chicken. She finished eating her piece of chicken, and instead of searching for a wastebasket; instead of simply putting the waste into her bag; she FLUNG HER GARBAGE straight up into the air...And laughed!

> Antiquesaving, I truly do not want to ever visit Vancouver ever again. My brother lives there, but I guess that I will not see him again

I wouldn't judge a city or country on just one silly person some 30 plus years ago.

Around that same time just a fewer years earlier my first 24 hours in Japan, I was on the Shinkansen on my way into Tokyo early morning with my them wife, a man in a business suite got off in shin-yokohama as he did so, he banged on the window where we were sitting from the platform call my wife a vulgar name in Japanese and spit on the window.

Good thing I didn't judge Japan, Tokyo, Yokohama, etc..by that man's actions!

Vancouver was once a nice place and sorry but back in 92 I was there and it was a great place, my cousin lived there and he loved it but today he has left due to the drugs and poor city management.

I have been extremely lucky to have been able to avoid having to go to Shibuya in nearly 10 years and I hope my luck lasts!

Even driving near Shibuya is a pain!

Far better and more interesting places in Tokyo to visit, see, shop and especially live!

Japantime

Today 12:59 pm JST

Usually Vancouver wins this award

You haven't seen Vancouver lately!

It is a drug addict, panhandler paradise!

Crime is still said to be "moderate" but property crime is up every year.

Drug use it ranked very high!

Businesses are moving out because of drug use!

It is crazy that you cannot smoke a cigarette on the street or drink alcohol but can sit infront of a store and shootup intervenes drugs!

It is now the city with the most overdoses.

Ontario has 14 million people

BC has 5 million

Ontario has 2501 overdose deaths in 2022

BC had 2342 the vast majority in and around Vancouver!

It was once a great city but not anymore and dropping fast!