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David Tokoyo, Again, I ask you to stop with the japanese ICR propanagnda, and take an unbiased good look at the history of whale populations....ALL SPECIES, as japan has also targeted humpback and fin whales in their so called science.

and again...I am still waiting for you to back up your theory that Japans "science", killing thousands of whales over 20 years in a whale santuary 2000 miles from Japans own waters has in fact produced any more than a couple of PEER reviewed papers, pertaing to the management of whales??????? http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1657789.htm

Japans refuses to recoginise an area set aside for the whales to breed without being harpooned for commercial purposes :(whale santuary).

Japan also has many disputed territories rich in fish resources (because they have fished out there own waters). How would you feel in Australia and other nations, sent huge fishing fleets into japans disputed territories and fished for "scientific" purposes of course.

Would japan react in the same manner Australia and NZ have, with tolerance"?????

Or would we see japans navy being deployed?

Japan is the largest consumer of the worlds ocean resources, and you are destroying the heritage of our childrens future . It has to stop. or there will be nothing left for ANYBODY, including japan.

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Posted in: Australia to allow anti-whaling ship to dock See in context

Show me the peer reviwed information and what has been learned of whales from thousands of dead whales over 20 years...(independant info please), also what you have learned from lethal means that could not have been gained from non lethal means?

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Posted in: Australia to allow anti-whaling ship to dock See in context

david Tokoyo,

Japan's programmes produce heaps of data that is used in studies by Japanese and non-Japanese scientists alike. Just because you don't know or don't care to find out these facts does not mean there is a "grand facade". You're just lazy or ignorant.<<<<

You call the folks here lazy and ignorant, I ask you to show here the links to the "heaps of data" of japans science on thousands of dead whales, over the past 20 years. We will not accept Japans papers unless they meet the world requirement of being peer reviewed to enable legitamacy.

It takes a little longer to find the correct information, but we will also only accept INDEPENDANT proof, by proffessional means from people who have nothing to gain by there scrutiny and subsequent report, i think this is only fair due to your comment above, dont you! Also show us which parts of your research require LETHAL means, and what you need to learn from this method. Also show us what you have learned about whales (peer reviewed), from lethal means, that could not have been gained from non0lethal means is tissue sample, blood test.

Lazy, ignorant....we shall see!

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Posted in: Australia to allow anti-whaling ship to dock See in context

David Tokio...

Google what happens to the health of the oceans if top end predators are sysematicly harvested.

Goggle how many whales and dolphins were in existance, before the mass commercial hunt which nearly wiped them out completely, look at the best estimates NOT JAPANS ESTIMATES, choose independant information, and see how many are around now, then try to tell me the numbers have increased.

Tell the good folks here that only less than 1% japanese folks eat whale, most goes to pet food. Tell them how many MILLIONS your government spends subsidizing the whale and dolphin kills using tax payers money...to prop up an industry that could not profit without tax payers money.

But lastly google how if japan has its way, and gains a return to commercial whaling, how many other nations will jump on the band wagon, eager to catch whales and dolphins to sell to japan. History will show you HUGE whaling fleets in the middle of the ocean, have no quotas, nor any consequences for the balance or extinction of any species. History shows profit will be the motivator out on the oceans....and who will see!

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davidattokyo,

I find it rather amusing that you quote IWC resolutions, whilst condemming Sea Shepherd for there valient efforts to save a small part of the worlds heritage from the "theives of the ocean" Japan.

Your posts show you have no knowledge of the law, and little knowledge of the reasons the International ban of commercial whaling was implimented in the first place. The ban was imposed, because whaling nations at the time, including Japan continually IGNORED quotas and the zero take of endangered species and as whales became hard to find....they killed any specied they came across...systematicly almost bringing the whale population to extinction.

After the ban, most nations abided by the zero whaling, but not Japan. You speak of the so called and internationally known scam of "whaling for science". When asked to produce the "science" from 20 years of whaling IN A WHALE SANTUARY", during an international ban on whaling...Japan produced a few hundred pieces of paper. All were looked at by INDEPENDANT scientists, and of all the papers....only 5 single papers had been peer reviewed, all the other had NOT been peer reviewed, and were shown to have little or NO revelance to the management of whales. The IWC's scientists, have reproached japan several times in respect to their"science" whaling, and have found very few facts in their"science" relating to the management of whales.

If Japan werent out there, cruely slaughtering whales and dolphins... for no other reason than as a smokescreen for there MASS plunders of EVERYTHING else in the ocean, Sea Shepherd would not tbe there. Japan are the aggressors here,and I feel after 20 years of diplomatic nicitis, which have not gotten us anywhere....they are justified!

Japan are the agressors and the pirates, they are stealing mine and your heritage as any pirates would be. SHAME on you ....

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