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Posted in: Iraq shoe-thrower to go on trial amid new torture claims See in context

adamantine

Your 1:12am post is most astute.

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Posted in: Across Mideast, Arabs hail shoe-hurling journalist See in context

Even if Obama isn't hated as much, I doubt he's going to be able to do much towards healing the destructive images the West and Middle East have of each other.

Good point. Obama may not be hated as much, but the attitude of the "root cause" crowd will guarantee that he is hated to some degree. The people on the ultra right being against Obama is a given.

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

adaydream

The link was directed at Madverts. He/She implied that America was in iraq for "booty". The link was given in response to his/her conspiracy theory.

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

Madverts

...how is that the hated old Mahmood can announce his visit to Baghdad weeks in advance, when the visits of US "liberators" are announced fait accompli or they risk getting an RPG aimed at their hotel, heh, or a pair of boots across the face...?

Easy...the Americans kicked a lot of people out and assumed power. There are a lot of people that want the Americans to leave so that they can take that power. Also, Mahmood is Shia. Most people that live in Iraq are Shia and tribalism flourishes in that part of the world.

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

Madverts

The only one trying to revise history is you, with your bias opinion and disregard to facts no matter where they lead.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/06/30/iraq.oil/?iref=mpstoryview

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

Madverts

when there is a substantial amount of booty to be considered on the country invaded

Do you have a link confirming this booty that was acquired?

then expect to be laughed at at all possible moments if you find youself defending the reasons Bush Co invaded Iraq...

Asking for facts and not your opinion (conspiracy theory) is not defending "Bush Co".

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

SezWho2

The WW2 war crimes trials were conducted under the working hypothesis that the aggressor is responsible for all subsequent acts.

How do you think Japanese people feel about America (the former aggressors) today?

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

SezWho2

It's not like the coalition was invited in. So it really doesn't matter who the Americans were killed by.

Has there ever been war where "invaders" were "invited in"? Is this a historical prerequisite for all armed conflicts in order to be considered "legitimate or are these special rules for America?

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Posted in: Obama hopes to reboot U.S. image among Muslims See in context

First you have Non-Muslims attacking the U. S.

Then you have an American president who attacks a virtually defenseless country as an act to receive benefits from profiteering on it.

After that horrific act we have to work to reboot our image. < :-)

What about the first horrific act? Who's image needs to be rebooted for that?

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Posted in: Obama hopes to reboot U.S. image among Muslims See in context

adaydream

Perception is reality. Obama does a service to America by at less recognizing that America has an image problem among many muslims. Voicing this will lead some muslims to lower their guard enough to actually entertain the idea of finding common ground.

What you don't seem to acknowledge is that non- muslim and some muslim Americans have concerns with the image of Islam and some of its practitioners. Muslims do not have a monopoly on "perception". People know who seem to be the loudest promoters of Islam and they are not the moderates. No amount of denials of that will change Americans' minds.

Obama is acknowledging to the muslims that America has an image problem, who is acknowledging to America that muslims have an image problem?

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Posted in: Obama hopes to reboot U.S. image among Muslims See in context

Good_Jorb

Adam Yahiye Gadahn formerly Adam Pearlman is wanted for treason not for commiting acts of terrorism on American soil.

You guys with all of these permutations after the fact. Now its an American Muslims commiting acts of terrorism on American soil

Keep moving those goal post.

Moderator: Back on topic please.

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Posted in: Obama hopes to reboot U.S. image among Muslims See in context

Who is talking about American Muslims anyway.

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Posted in: Obama hopes to reboot U.S. image among Muslims See in context

adaydream

Allow me to answer that for Nippon5. You asked

Name me one American Muslim who ever carried out a terrorisr act against the US. < :-)

That's easy... Adam Yahiye Gadahn better known as Azzam the American. He is on the FBI's Most Wanted List, with a reward of up to $1 million for information leading to his capture.

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

You have a hard sell trying to convince the people of the many countries targeted by radical islamists that there is not a problem with radical islam.

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

Yet we tried your solution, an unsophisticated combination of ballots and bullets, and it didn't work out too well.

Your status quo solution didn't work very well, just ask Clinton, the people of Australia, and the people of India just to name a few. The referendum on Bush's performances is clearly shown in his poll numbers and in the number of Republicans returning to Washington in January. The America people have spoken

Time for some thinking out of the box.

Where is the “out of the box” thinking in your argument? What I hear is “criticism of any muslim is criticism of ALL muslims” from you. That paralyses constructive action and promotes off-topic arguments that go in circles. This doesn't do anything to stop actions like blowing up buddhist statues, beheadings of the infidel, and suicide bombing.

You have a hard sell trying to convince the people of the many countries targeted by radical islamist that there is not a problem with radical islam.

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

adaydream

If Beck said to the first-ever Muslim congressman what he is alleged to have said (I did not see the video), then I think it is disgusting and Beck should be called to the carpet for it.

There were 140 victims of anti-Islamic hate crimes in 2007. That is 140 too many but there are approximately 3.5 million muslims in America. Don’t you think that if a large percent of 300 million Americans felt ALL muslims were terrorist, that 140 out of 3.5 million would be a lot higher?

Food for thought

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

adaydream

It is amazing that even though most on this board that are critical of the islamic radicals specifically state "Islamic radicals", people like you prompt come to there defense by insulating them with the warm human shield called “all muslims”.

You and smith are the first ones to come here championing the cause of ALL muslims when you are the only people talking about ALL muslims. How about discussing the problem once in a while, that being the Islamic radicals.

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

prejudice against Muslims

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

Maruku What does your 01:10 AM post have to do with prejudice of Muslims? It is naive to believe that almost everything boils down to oil.

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

Maruku

So you want me to believe that the much shorter Islamic wars

Christians and Islamists have been fighting each other for centuries. Please do not dilute yourself by believing that wars involving Islam are a relatively recent phenomenon.

somehow worse than the much longer, deadlier wars of the non-muslims.

There's that moral relativism. At what point, after you feel that "Islamic wars" have caught up to the carnage of "Christians wars" will you speak out against "Islamic wars".

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

Superlib Great post at 05:17 PM

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Posted in: Report finds prejudice rising against U.S. Muslims See in context

smith...you said:

Hell, you can see it time and time again even on this board; people with little or no education or morals coming on here and, and this is fact, even saying, "All Muslims should die by the sword".

Specifically, who says this?

Can't I say that the predudice against muslims occurs with only a tiny, tiny fraction of people in the US? Doesn't that argument sound familiar?

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Posted in: Russians want to search for oil off Cuba See in context

What could bush and co. possibly have done about it if Putin announced they were going to do it during bush's term?

Evidently, Russia felt that Bush could have done something that would be to Russia’s disadvantage.

It is telling that the Russians announced these plans during the transition to the Obama administration. The Russians clearly perceive that they can get away with moves like this under an Obama administration and not under a Bush administration.

I think one of the reasons why people aren't putting up more of a fuss like they would with American companies is that they know the Russians won't give a damn, whereas the American companies might at least try to mollify said environmentalists before drilling.

This is the kind of logic that handcuffs the militaries of democratic countries and enables rouge nations to continue brutal tactics (why change if no one complains).

This logic also allows one side to agitate until the other side acts, which in turn leads to simmering conflicts that claim innocent lives for a prolonged period of time. Yes, criticizing one side and not the other for the same actions is only good for bloggers and weapons' dealers.

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Posted in: Al-Qaida warns 'house negro' Obama See in context

The notion that Muslims around the world have a better understanding of American history and Malcoim X than Americans on this thread seems to be wishful thinking. It seems like you are projecting a level American history knowledge by the Muslims around the world that is not supported by any evidence.

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Posted in: Al-Qaida warns 'house negro' Obama See in context

whereas Americans on this thread appear to have missed it because they didn't appreciate the term's historic significance.

Betzee - I dont think you understand the origins of the term "House Negro". The notion that Muslims around the world have a better understanding of American history and Malcoim X than American on this thread seems to be wishful thinking. It seems like you are projecting a level American history by the Muslims around the world that is not supported by any evidence.

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