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VG877, where are you from? Calm down! You make me smile too much! ROTFLOL! It´s impossible dialogue to Korean and Chinese zealots, or their vassals and accomplices. They don´t have the ability to forgive also means they will be chained to their past, and go to their graves without being able to let go. It´s their right. But hatreds should not be carried on forever, bitterness sours their own life more than anyone else's. They have jealousy and envy of Japan. They don´t accept the idea that a torn down country (that was target of two cowards A-bomb) could become the second largest economy, have the highest longevity and one of the best human development rate. Japan, again, welcome among best countries of Europe.

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Posted in: S Korea-Japan territorial dispute flares up again See in context

"Cos at 06:56 PM JST - 27th December That's just as I said, South-Korean youths are taught history in a disproportionate way. They end up believing their country is the center of earth, the biggest victim of the universe, the only ex-colony (while they not even an "ex" colony), etc. They don't realise that in other countries, including Japan, in the whole curriculum of history, about 0,05% of the space is considered enough to say it all about little South-Korea. My Korean students always start screaming the first time I show them what the world knows of South-Korea : bloodiest civil war ever, American military base, dictatures, propaganda and censoring of information, industry, corruption and bankrupcy. (and well, to be nice, I don't list them prostitution and baby girls given for adoption, but to be fair, before high-school, that's all what we knew about South-Korea) That's not only about South-Korea, but the pre-1945 problems are considered as archeology, the chapter is closed. 60 years of newer history has ran since. There is no territorial dispute between Korea and Japan over Tsushima. That you ignore something does not make it inexistant. South-Korea officially claimed Tsushima in 48, kind of invaded it in 50, and had to drop the claim in 51. The Americans told them they were asking a lot those days, a lot more than what they could administrate. The situation is the same with Dokdo, a country that has not the command of its own army, that have accepted heavy occupation for decades (I mean the 50 last years) and is not even able to access to it's old capital (the beautiful Pyonyang) and 1/3 of the territory Japan gave them back in 1945... You'd think they already have enough territory problems. But they are making a huge fuss over a neighbouring country just alluding that Koreans shouldn't own 2 rocks in the sea. (re-read the article, it's exactly that) Apologies, the ODA etc. You believe that a couple of half hearted apologies and the ODA is enough to settle all historical grievances. In other words, you are basically setting a price on human lives. And that is your biggest mistake. It's not a mistake. You are ignorant of the basic facts of history of South-Korea. I did not set any price. I quote historic facts. The ODA and their amount were negociated in 1965 by the South-Korean government. They were not only accepted, they were calculated by Seoul. They asked Japan to give all the money to SK's governement and to refrain from dealing directly with victims. The investigations and establishment of the list of victims was done by South-Korea, they asked Japan to let them do it, Japan did not even got the list, only the numbers and the amount to pay. SK authorities gave a very little part of the money to victims and their families. Here, I add, as you seem ignorant, that after 45, most countries signed deals like that. Each State compensated its citizens that were victims (even victims of a foreign power) and the States arranged for compensation. So if one victim felt he/she desserved more, he/she would complain to his/her authorities. And (even there were exceptions) foreign countries refuse to accept individual claims as they sign the agreement with the other state, so they have to respect it. So, all the South-Koreans saying they are victims and Japan refused to acknowledge and pay are factually wrong about the second part. Japan acknowldeged and paid. And they often protested at the wrong window. Sorry for them if the mistake was sincere. I think many South-Korean citizens didn't know the 1965 deal, or did not understand its content, because that was not written in their textbooks. That's what I call a problem. They are all taught about Hideyoshi, which is a folkloric tale with no consequence in present. But about important treaties of present time, they are ignorant. In all the textbooks we gathered (published 10 to 5 years ago), the compensation deal of 1965 was not explained. That was not false,just omitted. And at that time (10 to 5 years ago), herd of South-Koreans patriotic activists and their many followers were screaming at Japan, saying Japan refused to pay for "comfort women", for irridiated people, etc. And when non-Korean historians would tell them of the 1965 deal, most South-Koreans would say that was lies we all made to "protect facist Japanese". Now the SK version of the 1965 document has been published. Everything I said is written clearly in Korean language. So before going abroad to make a scandal, it's wise to learn about your own government and what your compatriots in power did recently. If you say I gave innacurate information, show me any textbook of South-Korean public school that was relating those facts."

@Cos: I´m European and most of Europe (except Britain, The Great Vassal) agree entirely with you. Sir, great post, well done. We´d like to give an advice: It´s impossible dialogue to Korean and Chinese zealots, or their vassals and accomplices. They don´t have the ability to forgive also means they will be chained to their past, and go to their graves without being able to let go. It´s their right. But hatreds should not be carried on forever, bitterness sours their own life more than anyone else's. They have jealousy and envy of Japan. They don´t accept the idea that a torn down country (that was target of two cowards A-bomb) could become the second largest economy, have the highest longevity and one of the best human development rate. Japan, again, welcome among best countries of Europe.

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1) Bush said the islets belong to Korea!!! Who is so crazy to believe what Bush says???

2) Japan did not invade Korea, China GAVE Korea to Japan in payment of war. Why did not China give other territory to Japan in payment of war? Because China had already sucked everything from Korea during the period that China had occupied Korea, and China considered Korea a refuse.

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I´m not Japanese, Korean or Chinese. I can see the situation with no emotion. My point of view is:

I do not put my hand on fire about what Korean and Chinese say or write are the truth. Are they owner of the truth? Japan has made many apologies and asked to be forgiven but Korea and China refuses to forgive. Japan should stop doing it, they don´t have the ability to forgive also means they will be chained to their past, and go to their graves without being able to let go. It´s their right. But hatreds should not be carried on forever, bitterness sours their own life more than anyone else's. China and Korea have jealousy and envy of Japan. They don´t accept the idea that a torn down country could become the second largest economy, have the highest longevity and one of the best human development rate.

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Posted in: S Korea-Japan territorial dispute flares up again See in context

No one answered my questions above... lol

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Posted in: S Korea-Japan territorial dispute flares up again See in context

Does someone know Korea was occupied by China, and China gave Korea to Japan (payment of war) when Japan won the China-Japan war?

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Posted in: S Korea-Japan territorial dispute flares up again See in context

"Japan has made many apologies and asked to be forgiven but Korea refuses to forgive."

So what Japan can do? Just moving ahead forgotten Korea.

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Posted in: S Korea-Japan territorial dispute flares up again See in context

Who can put the hand on fire about what Korea and China say or write are the truth?

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