Chabbawanga comments

But our rivals don’t believe in democracy that’s the biggest difference

They all have their own terrible political systems, just like the US has its democracy for the rich.

Also the US is an energy super power now.

Yes, but like any business they have rivals, and rivals can make friends too.

Israel is a resources poor country. Does not even have enough water.

But the middle east does, and Israel is the landing strip for the west in the middle east.

New natural gas has been discovered in recent years off the coast of Gaza, but the resource was has been going on much longer than that.

How much more peace there would be if Jews stopped being Jews and Muslims stopped being Muslims. It can be done. Religion is not in one's DNA.

Its not really about religion, its about resources. Why do you think the US supports Israel so strongly. It isnt their love for the Jews. They turned them away at the end of WW2. It has everything to do with the wealth of natural resources in the middle east.

Israel is responsible for the killing of every Gaza Arab. There will be a day of reckoning.

Thats just not true. Both Israel and Hamas are responsible. But for some reason the former never gets held accountable.

Lots of Jews,that serve in the IDF are gonna find themselves under a international tribunal

I doubt it. The majority of them dont know any better. Indoctrinated from birth. The politicians and generals should be the ones who are punished. Will it ever happen? Not unless the current world order takes a massive shift very quickly.

So where do the people in the South go...?

Hot air - pun intended

Why doesn’t Hamas just surrender? The devastation to Gaza would stop tomorrow

Israel would just accept that those who had surrendered accounted for every member of Hamas? Sure.

Hamas claimed they were killed by Israeli air strikes, but who knows?

Why would Hamas kill their captives? How would that benefit Hamas in any way? And when you look at the state of the captives they have released alive, they could look a hell of a lot worse.

International law prohibits using hospitals and schools as places top launch attacks, which Hamas is doing, so there is nothing wrong with Israel bombing those terrorist sites

There is no such clause in the Geneva Conventions. This is something that Israel has made up to justify their targeting of what should be considered untouchable targets. Even if there was a clause the IDF still has to prove that these hospitals and schools were used as Hamas headquarters and the base of terrorist operations against Israel, which so far they have failed to do. Even if they did, measures taken would have to be proportionate to the immediate threat posed by the militants inside.

nuclear power has always been the future. If it wasnt for fossil fuel lobby groups, and the supreme negligence of a few groups of people, we would live in a much more sustainable society.

 the world is seeing the depth of depravities committed by Hamas

Like forcing Gazan medical staff to evacuate a hospital, leaving the premature babies in the ICU with no electricity to literally rot to death? Who could do something so horrific?

Forgot to mention Egypt already houses around half a million refugees from Sudan, Syria, Iran, as well as other nationalities. There are only so many refugees any nation can afford to support.

Every released Israeli hostage has new stories of horror and torture at the hands of Hamas. Lovely people, aren't they? 

Yes, like fearing for their lives under the constant bombardment of Israeli missile strikes.

No wonder nobody in the Arab world wants to help (other than Iran, AQ and ISIS) them or see them anywhere near their borders.

What kind of help? Gaza has been blockaded for decades, and The West Bank has strict restrictions as to what kind of support can be provided. Or do you mean military aid? Not sure the Western Alliance would look too fondly on that. Or are you talking about taking refugees? Palestines Arab neighbours arent like the affluent counties in Western Europe or North America, we are talking about Jordan and Lebanon, which have already been forced to take thousands upon thousands of refugees from Syria and Iraq (Palestines other neighbouring Arab nations), and struggle with high levels of unemployment, poverty, and inflation. As for Egypt, they fear another rise in insurgency in the Sinai Peninsular. Egypt does not support Hamas, and they dont want Hamas militants operating out of Egypt. So where should they go? Iran? How do the logistics of that work? Are the millions of displaced Palestinians expected to walk across the desert, or is someone going to pay for them all to fly?

When Nat Turner lead his bloody Rebellion, there were those who couldn't understand that it's brutality was a pale imitation of the horrors slavery had inflicted on him and his fellow Rebels. And America is still struggling to get to a place where people acknowledge that.

Good comparison.

Rapes are on this one.

Nope. Just the same vide as th other telegram groups.

For example, forcing the Israeli children to watch Hamas home videos of their butchery on October 7th.

This is the only example I could find as well. Fox News. Always a reliable source of information.

He dies right when the messes he created are about to blow up....

Welcome to the thought process of everyone in politics.

True, but one thing is for certain the Arabs will never get Israel off their land, that’s not going to happen.

Maybe not, but US military experts argue that the current state of Israel may not exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SdlzMuwsc&t=1751s

Heartbreaking to hear those stories about how the children were tortured while held hostage by Hamas.

What?

Chabbawanga - Americans, by and large, don’t utilize Telegram. These videos were up on Twitter day of, but get taken down pretty quickly.

I use Telegram, and Ive seen a lot of these videos. Some of them are very distressing, especially the execution and mistreatment of captives. But where are the ones depicting mass beheadings, gang-rape, and torture?

Yes, there has been, and there is also photos and videos to back it up

There arent. Even the most far-right, pro-Israel commentators such as Ben Shapiro havent shared such goodies.

No, the injustice when Palestinian supporters try to make some moral equivalence of holding someone in prison to a woman being gang-raped or a child’s head chopped off.

Thats pretty rich, when you are comparing crimes that are well documented as having actually happened, with claims made by an occupying force currently substantiated by 0 evidence.

In the area that clustered with that many people around, it’s not the training it’s probably the people that they were trying to hit. They were trying to dodge and move from the bullets. But you should know this, since you were trained as you said, and what specifically?

I recommend you watch the video of the 8yo getting shot. The only people on the street are children. There are videos taken from multiple angles. Forgive the 8yo for trying to avoid the bullets.

so how many were killed and how many were raped and how many of those 700 had their heads chopped off?

Is this the new measure for injustice?

"Well they beat the kids, held them in a cold cell for years without enough food, but they didnt rape the children, so its ok I guess"

BTW. Im not saying that any of these crimes didnt happen. Im saying that there is a lack of evidence to prove that any of these things did happen.

The heads weren’t chopped off, they were subjected to forceful rape

You need some evidence for these claims matey. So far there is evidence that an Israeli soldier was decapitated in the videos shown to the press, but there has so far been no evidence released of mass beheadings, or rapes. Investigations continue, but without evidence your claims are meaningless.

if you can show me thousands of brutal photos of Palestinians, being severely tortured in the most barbarian, physical way

Also no evidence that proves any of the Israelis were subject to torture before death. none of the released Israeli hostages have mentioned anything about torture either, nether before or during their captivity.

Ffs, you still won’t conquer Ukraine.

That has never been the aim. Russia has already achieved more than it could hope for. They now occupy the majority of the Donbass region, which is where the majority of Ukrainan heavy industry and natural resources are located. Expect this to be annexed in any ceasefire treaty. A huge victory for the West right there.

Hmmm with all the billions of Palestine government has received throughout the years, why have they not built better drinking water systems or better schools or a proper infrastructure

Because their Israeli occupiers refuse to give them building permission. They actually prohibit the Palestinians in the West Bank access to their natural water resources. Read all about it.

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israels-practices-against-palestinian-economy-exacerbating-dire-living-conditions-occupied-territory-syrian-golan-senior-official-tells-second-committee

Again, where is ugly and in war when you’re fighting enemy in an area like that and any country children get in the way and sadly children get injured or killed,

Shame about those Israelis who died in the Kibbutz. They just got caught in between Hamas militants and their intended targets. Thats just war thought. Cant be helped. Sounds stupid doesnt it.

Since 1967 West Bank Arabs have been prohibited from collecting rainwater or taking water from the Jordan River.

Just one of the realities of war buddy. Just got to suck it up. Cant be helped. Cost of war not being allowed to collect rain water.