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orosushi People's Republic of China was established in Beijing on 1 October 1949, what do you do with the present government which does not recognize (to their advantage only) what was anything prior to their establishment? This is exactly their mindset right now, especially with the discovery of those resources

1)In Jinminnippo(Communist party News paper) on Jan. 8th 1953.That they can not deny the fact. It states Senkaku as Japan.

2)Chinese Gov.maps in1953, 58 ,60 ,67, which were edited or at least they knew about it by China today, all those maps were shown Senkaku as Japan. There were on the Internet till around Aug.26 2012 in China. Now they have gone. But this kind of fabrication and historical manipulation could not be the fact. at ICJ. This can be considered as a deception for even their own people and the world.

3) While the US was using the islands as their bombing range and shooting range, that was after China today was established. This fact shows that China did not have the realistic sovereignty based on the law.

4) The unilateral maritime law that China promulgated in 1992 has no meaning to the international law.

5) The except China, the way draw the line of border at sea, every nation in the world draw the line the way Japan does and China did that till early 70S but the finding the oil changed their point of view. China last year worked very hard to bring their way of draw the line between nation and nation to UN. But the still it has not determined. If that is accepted as a new measure, I am not sure how it will affect the world map today.

IRobin, Japanese widely believe that these islands were handed over to them in the San Francisco peace treaty. But what kind of treaty it is?

What kind? After Cairo and Potsdam declaration, the allies worked how to bring Japan back to the international community again. After the whole process includes the result of The International Military Tribunal for the Far East, in 1951, the treaty was promulgated and it became the foundation of New Japan today. If you take Cairo and Potsdam declaration but not SF treaty? That is some contradiction there.

IRobin,

It is normal Even China had not claimed on these islands , because they are too small to have the need to make the claim.

That is the common sense of China not the world. The based on the law, '' China had not claimed on these islands , because they are too small to have the need to make the claim.'' does not work.

IRobin the US can never be the owner of these islands, not now, not then,

Yes, they had. At least the world thought that way. We needed the US visa to visited Okinawa prefecture before 1972 and used US$ there. My aunt who was a Okinawan had US passport to visited Tokyo then. Senkaku is Okinawa prefecture Ishigaki county.

In 1905, China published Great Qing Dynasty(China then) map was published as the first edition did not have any indication for the islands are China.The 5 maps till 1968 since the first edition, none of these maps have what China has claimed since the potential oil was found in 1968. and 5 of them clearly indicating as Senkaku as Japan also the border line was shown as Japan territory in Chinese map.

But the based on the international law, it does not matter. Because in order to avoid this kind of mess, there are laws.

The judicial precedent in an international law. Island of Palmas Case teaches the world,

1)The title by geographical approach ability does not have a meaning in the international law.

2) Discovery itself is immature origin of rights to obtain a sovereignty in international law which is inchoate title.

3) When a foreign country begins to use realistic sovereignty and a discovery country does not protest, the title which uses sovereignty is only larger than the title of discovery.

When did China have the realistic sovereignty based on the law? China's claim can not match these conditions at all.

However, Japan has all conditions to match the law. Japan has a bonito flake factory between 1895 till 1941 and about 250 people lived on the island but the war broke out, the people left then after that, make a long story short, with the 48 countries approval after the peace process of WW2 in San Francisco peace treaty article 3. Okinawa and all its island went back to Japan. Temporarily, Japan only allowed to have only the 4 main islands right after Japan accepted the Potsdam declaration until SF treaty was approved by the international community. However, Okinawa and all its islands were taken by the US as Japan NOT USA took them as China. Two islands of Senkaku were used as bombing range of US. China said nothing. The based on the common sense, I can not believe that the world allowed America to use Chinese islands for that reason. Okinawa and its islands were returned to Japan by the US in 1972. China only started to claim after the oil was found.

Boycott ? Because Takeshima issue? Sex slave issue? Takeshima and Dokto is not the same island based on few documented proof from Korea since 512 AD. This sex slave issue is totally fabricated issue. A lot of Japanese as well as Koreans know the original source today. Who fabricated and produced in 1977 and 1982 also known today.

So, why again, this boycott movement happened? I am sick of it. Japan and Korea needs to help each other for North and China Issue. Who get benefit from this!!!

AriesKJJFEB. 26, 2013 - 01:45PM JST Sea Shepherds should start arming themselves. They tried to negotiate and tried non violent methods ... The answer is 'NO!' You cannot kill whales in international waters.

Yes they can. It is legal what Japan is doing. Japan never exceed the limited number which is given by IWC. SS is doing illegal operation. Express their opinion legally.

Again? No way, high way, China way.

Every time you guys coming, we spend our tax money.

ne-tiger Anti-japanese education? Give me a break!

The Jiang Zemin Administration enacted the "patriotism educational implementation guideline" in 1994, and promoted the thorough anti-Japanese education from 1995 which would be "the 50th anniversary of an anti-Japanese war victory." Directions were taken out with the meeting in which the diplomatic authorities, such as an ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary who resides "that a history issue is emphasized from beginning to end, and saying it moreover while continuing telling Japan the Taiwan and other problems thoroughly must be continued forever", and at foreign countries, were gathered in August, 1998. Anti-Japan sentiment increases by Jiang Zemin's anti-Japanese policy in China,since then. Especially after Tiananmen Sq incident as a scapegoat,Japan has appeared in their text books much more.

@Steve Christian

Dokdo belongs to Korea for the same reason

Yes, I would agree with you if Dokdo and Takeshima were the same island. The fact and conflict is that many Japanese know that the Takeshima is not Dokdo with many histrical evidences from Korea since 512AD. I have no idea why the simple isseu has been twisted this much.

The issue must be solved by the based on laws. Takeshima has been used to stimulate Korea's nationalism with their convenient fabricated selective information. The article mentioned about the women into sexual slavery issue. These two issues is needed to see some resolution soon. It is about time to face the history with the fact.

Abe is right. He said during the press conference firmly that the problem with China must be solved by the based on laws not by force. He is not trying to be above the law.

The way to go, no one should allow to make any exception even if it is coming from the second largest economy. Based on the International law the territory issue must be solved. Other wise the world would be very unstable place to live. Abe, go for it. Abe is protecting the principle of the world.

In 2010, when the Chinese boat hit a coast gourd ship, Japan released him and sent wrong message to China. Then other issues China brought into Japan. Japan needs to show how Abe administration handles this case.

Japan has done already. No more apology is necessary.

Chin4Sailor

''over Islands THAT ARE NOT INTEGRAL parts of Japan, nor historically have they ever rightfully belonged to Japan''

What let you say this? If any fact you know, I would like you to list here. I am not interested in what you think but what you know.

Iachance.

If what your Communist Party says is true, that the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands are yours by right of sovereignty, then why have you allowed the US Navy to have the right to bombard one of these islands for the last 50 years?

Because after San Francisco peace treaty, Okinawa became USA till 1972. Japan was not in any position to say how they should be used. My aunt is from Okinawa. We needed a passport to visit Okinawa and used US $ there. Senkaku is Ishigakijima county of Okinawa. Again, Japan has no control then. So Senkaku was part of Okinawa fro 1895 then after WW2, US ruled then 1972, it was returned to Japan.

For this issue, we need historians not politicians. I know the back ground of this issue from the both side that I have studied for years. How it started and how the resolution 121 was established in the US in 2007.

One thing I can say is we need non Japaneses and non Korean historians as the 3rd countries international team seek the truth. Based on that Japan need to accept the fact. But before that, making a statement on the monument in NJ, NY in USA and write down as Korea claims is not right for sake of the relationship. If the monument they erected in America! They say for the peace not to blame Japan today. That only makes the situation worse, if the reason why they want to establish 100~150 monuments in the world is for the peace that I heard from some Korean source, they must wait till the result of a report from historians. Then Japan and Korea should establish monuments together for the peace then whatever Japan needs to accept the responsibility, Japan will be very willing to apologize but not based on the today's situation. The monument should not produce a new issue like what Korea has done in NY and NJ. Hiroshima and Nagasaki monuments are a good example. The monuments encourage us for seeking world peace not anger or hate. ( If anger occurs, it is not directed to any nation but the fundamental darkness of human being as a reminder. At least it works for me that way.So that I can redetermine for seeking peace again to not make the same mistake.) The monument for comfort women must be the same way not taking political advantages. It has been affecting as silent lobbying in USA because of the sex slave monuments in NJ and NY. And now, they are going to establish another one in Detroit.

I understand how Kono and Murayama's, especially Kono 's statement how it was done, Abe has a broader point of view reason for both nations for a future long term relationship for Japan and Korea. To wait conclusion from historians to seek the fact. One thing I agree with Abe is to seek more actively the answer and report from historians. He has not giving me any impression that we will never apologize. That is not what he is saying. Once the fact are presented, I am sure not just Abe, many Japaneses will be willing to apologize but we must keep seeking the fact. I am not saying this for Japan only.

Nowadays, Takeshima and Sex slave issue are discussed on the same table. My study started how comfort women started to be called Sex Slave. There are tons of issues before we can put this in our history for the both nations.

Any way Japan is blamed Japan do not study history or we do not know history. That is not 100% correct. I might not agree the same historical point of view yet, that does not mean I do not know or do not study history. It will take for a long time before we all get the facts for this issue but meanwhile we must agree our disagree to continue something positive not being controlled by the old issue that happened before most of us were born. For this issue, the main facts are presented based on Seiji Yoshida's book in 1977 and 82.. Some Korean comics are created based on his fiction has been introduced as non fiction as one of examples. Seiji him self in 1996 May, finally he confessed that the book he published in 1977 and 82 contained many his lies to sell his books. A lot of cases, if calmly we illuminate spot light then dig the truth as a problem solvers together, this can be resolved. I understand how Korean people feel, if I had elicited the only the information they have heard, I would have felt the same way.

lachance

As Westerners, we have problems understanding Chinese logic

There is no logic. In 1905, China published Great Qing Dynasty(China then) map which was published as the first edition did not have any indication for the islands are China.The 5 maps till 1968 since the first edition, none of these maps have what China has claimed since the potential oil was found in 1968. and the 5 of them clearly indicating as Senkaku as Japan also the border line was shown as Japan territory in Chinese map.

1987, A Chinese historical map was published which were collection of old maps. Believe it or not, the fist edition of Great Qing Dynasty(China then)map originally has no indication the islands as China in 1905 I mentioned above, out of chronological order, historical maps from 1820, they somehow show Senkaku in Chinese name and the next to the name of islands (Fukien section) Originally the first edition in 1905 and the one published 1987 has different indications. How logically can anyone explain this? If someone says this is fabrication, it will make sense to me. I do not know how this illogical situation exists.

BY the way, America was using 2 islands of Senkaku as their shooting training ground while their occupation till 1972. Does it mean America snatched over from China? I do not believe there is no history that USA occupied China in the history the world knows. Now China said Senkaku has been China since Qing Dynasty. China said nothing while America was using those places for shooting and bombing. How it could be logical? If what China said is true, the history must be rewritten that America took over Chinese islands till 1972 officially after San Francisco Peace treaty.

In the treaty, it is stated in article #3 that Senkaku is left for Japan. (For that matter, Takeshima as well)

1953 January 8th Jinmin Nippo which is the official Chinese news paper indicates Senkaku as Japan. Also recently, the official documents in the communist party in 1950 was found that they treated Senkaku as Japan. How is could be logical?

In 1871 after the Miyakojima inhabitant incident, Qing dined governing the area which has nothing to do with the war then. That China stated the last year at UN that Japan forcefully took over Senkaku. How it could be logical?

1919, when Chinese fish men had an accident in the area, some people who are the residence of Miyakojima Japan helped their life. Japan received the official letter of appreciation from China which clearly states Senkaku Japan area, Chinese are saved in Japan territory. The place where Japaneses helped Chinese fish men is the spot where China keep sending their military boats. How this could be logical?

The judicial precedent in an international law. Island of Palmas Case teaches the world, 1)The title by geographical approach ability does not have a meaning in the international law. 2) Discovery itself is immature origin of rights to obtain a sovereignty in international law which is inchoate title. 3) When a foreign country begins to use realistic sovereignty and a discovery country does not protest, the title which uses sovereignty is only larger than the title of discovery.

When did China have the realistic sovereignty based on the law?

Japan has a condition to match the law. Japan has a bonito flake factory between 1895 till 1941 and about 250 people live on the island but the war broke out, the people left then after that, make a long story short, with the 48 countries approval after the peace process of WW2 in San Francisco peace treaty article 3. Okinawa and all its island went back to Japan. Temporarily, Japan only allowed to have only the 4 main islands right after Japan accepted the Potsdam declaration until SF treaty was approved by the international community. However, Okinawa and all its islands were taken by the US as Japan.Okinawa and its islands were returned to Japan by US in 1972. Since then Japan has been ruling the islands as Okinawa. Based on the international law, it is Japan clearly and logically. China has no way to say this is China. Japan must seek peace with China but also Japan needs firmly talk to them. Then Japan could discuss how the fishing right or other issue with Taiwan more openly.

There are many documents between from 1885 till today that suggests the islands were under the TERRA NULLIUS status when Japan registered them as Okinawa in 1895. Japan confirmed to China then again even though, Japan heard their statement in 1871. Based on that confirmation, this legal process happens then. since then, till the potential oil was found in 1968, China was quit. The issue did not exist. They were interested in the oil in the area first. That sounds logical. Unfortunately many Chinese people even who do not know where exactly Senkaku is, got only one side information then reacted as a terrorism to destroyed Panasonic and many Japaneses businesses and justified the action because AIKOKUMUZAI. ( Action comes from patriotism, any thing could be forgiven.) Is is logical?

If the old maps without latitude and longitude especially those may small rocks exist the area determined which country has sovereignty, the world would go crazy. The Manhattan island as old map show it is as Dutch. The territory issue must be discussed not old maps but the law. What China and Japan can lose is much bigger than those rocks.

gaijintraveller

In answer to the person who asks why the previous and current Chinese ambassador to Japan speak fluent Japanese

Because he also attended Soka University in Japan.

The Japanese people as a whole must share the blame for this.

Why all Japanese people must be blamed for his religious point of view? The neighboring countries you are talking about is only mainly China and Korea. What makes them have a right for interference Japan's religion? There is no logic in a real sense. I understand if Japaneses go there to show our approval to some criminals, but once they become MITAMA, it is not the same concept that German people visit Hitler's cemetery. It is entirely different meaning.This is religious difference in its concept exist, that is why the issue is difficult to solve.

Also when I hear from them who blame Japan because Yasukini has A class war criminals. I ask them if those are removed? Is it OK to visit? many people say yes, But B and C class criminals are still there. Many people express A class criminal is problem. However, so far none of them gave me the answer when I ask the difference between A, B and C. I am puzzled that without knowing what A class criminal mean, people express this. And I wish they try to understand the concept of Mitama. it is not possible to separate once they blended into the law of nature to return. I am a Buddhist, I believe an individual Karma but Shintoism is different. I am not supporting Shito for it sake but our religious freedom and independence. No country should try to control other country's religion.

I know quite a lot of people visit Meiji Shrine also Yasukuni, not everyone has a militaristic idea, actually very small numbers of people are like that, but simply pray for their deceased family who died not just WW2 and other wars and Korean, Taiwan and other people as well who died for their ease and happiness. Or simply world peace. I can not tell what is in everyone's mind who go Shrines. But once Korea and China exceed their interference for Japan's religious right, it will provoke Japan too much to maintain a good relationship. I am sure a lot of non Japaneses people who visited those shrines during new year, the atmosphere has nothing to do with Nationalism. Don't you think so? You do not have to agree with me but I am just curious how non Japanese people are watching us.

cleo

Yes, since there's supposed to be separation of religion and state.

The article 20 does not take any freedom for anyone's religious faith. Abe may be visiting anywhere. I personally disagree with his religious point of view because I am not Shintoist, but we can not take his religious point of view. Do you think when a president of America put his hand on the bible when he becomes the president, and he visits his church or temple or visit the war memorial park, these things have been done with basically the same constitution. Article 20 (for that matter all the articles) has been written by Americans.

iWorld

And this is one of the many valid reason why other nations keep asking Japan to truly and sincerely apologize

In this case, how Japan may keep its religious freedom?

sealife

But I don't think Diaoyu belong to Japan, this is another story..

Any hard evidence that abjectly you can let us know?

FPSRussia

Japanese citizens working overseas were doing just fine till Japan started this.

Japan started what?

It is about time to discuss Takeshima issue face to face for the future of two nations. Japan needs to keep sending its message.

I hope all government get involved this Abe effect agree to set up the international historians team with out China, Japan, N&S Korea but the 3rd countries pure historical curiosity international team to seek the facts with out any politics. Whatever out come would be, Japan should take care of it with utmost sincerity. I am Japanese and I believe we did our best we can last 67 years to build the order and peace but if that is not enough, we must review the real history for each other now. It is not healthy that some politicians are using history as their weapon to take political advantage. I like studying history because we can learn from our mistake in past then try to not do it again. But at this stage, because of the history, we could make the same mistake again.

I thought we reset the situation at San Francisco peace treaty in 1951 after the Tokyo court. Or few other occasions such as a basic Japan Korea treaty in 1965 which stated and signed by the father of a new Korean woman president. which said Japan and Korea completely perfectly solved any issues related before 1945 forever, so Japan abandoned $5,300,000,000 asset to Korean government and $800,000,000 cash to the people's compensation when the collage graduate in Japan's salary was $65 average ($1=360 Yen then) The Korean Government did not used this cash to the people then, so many Koreans seems do not know what Japan apologized and paid. I was a student then. I thought we can just seek something positive for future with , Korea after this treaty.

This is the one of the examples from many historical issues why so many Japaneses are supporting Abe. And the reason why I would like to see the international historians team to find out the real history before each countries politicians get involved to make it worse.The sex slave issue was not any issue after 1945 till 80s. Suddenly after Seiji Yoshida wrote a book 1977 as supposed to be non fiction as his experience, then Asahi News paper picked up that sensationally in 80s this sex slave issue based on Yoshida's book. Then it came out in Korea. Between 1992 and 1995, a left wing lawyer Etsuro Totsuka had 18 trips to USA, Europe, China, Korea and did lobbying activity in UN then finally the official human right documents were released by UN in 1996.

But in 1996 May 29th Yoshida him self made a confession that that was not true story. He could not sell his book unless it provoked the society. Mean while at Seoul University professor Ann Byunjuku said his research that he found no forceful abduction by JPN Gov or a very angry female Korean Journalist for this story visited a few villages Yoshida mentioned in his book, She got a 100% different story, also some of the women who claimed to JPN gov, were arrested as fraud in 90s, but Kouno and Murayama showed their sympathy to Korean people then. So till 2005, the situation got quite.

Then, 2007, an American politician Mike Honda used as a fact from UN documents in 1996 to promulgate resolution 121 which is a resolution demanding JPN gov apologize to Korea. That passed on July 30 as suspension of rule with out vote but an oral confirmation to a few representatives.

Now, Korean civilian groups in NJ, NY, MI and more... try to erect the monument for the sex slave issue. It has been already erected in NJ and NY based resolution 121. It is affecting other issues such as Takeshima.

This as an example how Japan is being seen by our Asian brothers. And it is not necessary as exact my point of view but this is one of the examples of Japanese point of view. So even it seems so impossible to establish the historian all stars but that seems the only way to solve the issue. I am sure Japan is willing to apologize if any real inconvenient truth came out from the 3rd party historians but I understand our government can not accept something japan might not have done as if it were being told. That why the best way we thought was done in 1965 during the basic treaty. But that contract and condition were obviously ignored, we must study the each case. So based on the out come, Japan can apologize but japan can not apologize something is not the part of history that mean we hand down more hot potato to the next generation as we received. Everything now reactivated all hot issues came from before I was born.

I am sick of it these days for this historical issues. In long term point of view Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, we all get negative effect for our future.

That is why I have a problem with the Jiang Zemin Administration which enacted the "patriotism educational implementation guideline" in 1994, and promoted the thorough anti-Japanese education from 1995 Directions were taken out with the meeting in which the diplomatic. authorities, such as an ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary who resides "that a history issue is emphasized from beginning to end, and saying it moreover while continuing telling Japan the Taiwan and other problems thoroughly must be continued forever", and at foreign countries, were gathered in August, 1998. Anti-Japan sentiment increases by Jiang Zemin's anti-Japanese policy in China,since then.

I heard that the one of women had a baby 7 months after this mission. She should not have had this mission. I do not think JPN gov. could not have controlled if a pregnant woman was there. Also, this is the military ship with their own radiation detector, if it showed any thing exceed the level of radiation it could harm the men and women in uniform, the ship should have left. that mission was a volunteer mission. I have to find out if JPN gov.asked to USA or not. But if my memory is correct, that was offered by US and they should not rely on the information from JPN but they should have kept checking the level of radiation the way JPN defense force did or hyper rescue team from Tokyo fire dept. so far no one has any sickness has been reported. If the system of instrument on Ronald Reagan was not working correctly and put them in any danger situation, they should sue some where else. I am sure 99% of people on the ship must feel not good abut this situation.

I am afraid that how it will be interpreted by ordinarily Japaneses people. Especially, knowing how people were moved by the campaign called TOMODACHI in the time of real trouble, ( In this case, deep or unconditional friendship how people sensed then because they jeopardized their life to help the situation.) No matter what, based on the common sense, there were some danger there that should be understood as tacit level of understanding.

Tamarama

It's a ironic statement given that the Yushin Maru deliberately ran over that small SS boat a few years back.

REALLY!!!???

tian4670

I will treat you like a friend, and I will take over your home as mine.

It would be true if the home were owned by China.!

Mano2012

legally, it belongs Japan with out any doubt. If that is not the case, let me know where we can find the hard evidence. There are many documents between from 1885 till today that suggests the islands were under the TERRA NULLIUS status when Japan registered them as Okinawa in 1895.Or some possibility, the people on Taiwan Island might have had some activity there.Since this is while ago, I am still doing my study. But one thing became more clear is this is not Chinese island. This should be solve the issue between Japan and Taiwan. China has no room for this matter. I feel with Taiwan, we could solve the issue with civilized manner with mutual respect between 2 countries as well as the world.

I know China claim based on some historical fact. Even if that were true, that means nothing in International laws. Because in order to avoid this kind of problem like China's unreasonable claim for Senkaku in ancient time story such as ‘’China discovered the land, then Japan stole it’’ if that kind of claim determines which country has sovereignty every corner of the world, the world would go chaos. Therefore, the law was promulgated.

The judicial precedent in an international law. Island of Palmas Case teaches the world, 1)The title by geographical approach ability does not have a meaning in the international law. 2) Discovery itself is immature origin of rights to obtain a sovereignty in international law which is inchoate title. 3) When a foreign country begins to use realistic sovereignty and a discovery country does not protest, the title which uses sovereignty is only larger than the title of discovery.

When did China have the realistic sovereignty based on the law?

Japan has a condition to match the law. Japan has a bonito flake factory between 1895 till 1941 and about 250 people live on the island but the war broke out, the people left then after that, make a long story short, with the 48 countries approval after the peace process of WW2 in San Francisco peace treaty article 3. Okinawa and all its island went back to Japan. Temporarily, Japan only allowed to have only the 4 main islands right after Japan accepted the Potsdam declaration until SF treaty was approved by the international community. However, Okinawa and all its islands were taken by the US as Japan.Okinawa and its islands were returned to Japan by US in 1972.

Mano 2012, Do you think the US occupied Chinese lands till 1972? I do not think no one knows that history that USA took over China.The world include China understood all Okinawa was Japan then.

Any way even if Chinese story were true, China's claim is too late based on the judicial precedent in International law.

The fact of matter is that Chinese claiming history for this case is very much fabricated one. I know at least five maps could be more which were officially published in China under the awareness of the Chinese government. In fact, 1953 January 8th Jinmin Nippo which is the official Chinese news paper indicates Senkaku as Japan. That fact manifest how China understood Senkaku islands. They also used the maps I am talking about here.

Now, one of the maps made many Japaneses people very furious. 1905, China published Great Qing Dynasty(China then) map was published as the first edition did not have any indication for the islands are China.The 5 maps till 1968 since the first edition, none of these maps have what China has claimed since the potential oil was found in 1968. and 5 of them clearly indicating as Senkaku as Japan also the border line was shown as Japan territory in Chinese map.

Suddenly, 1972, the same map started to indicate Senkaku changed to Chinese name and the borderline was extended to Japan side so the islands locate in Chinese territory!!!

1987, Chinese historical map was published which were collection of old maps. Believe it or not, the fist edition of Great Qing Dynasty map originally has no indication the islands as China in 1905 I mentioned above, out of chronological order, historical maps from 1820, they somehow show Senkaku in Chinese name and the next to the name of islands (Fukien section) Originally the first edition in 1905 and the one published 1987 has different indications. That is after the potential oil was found in 1968.How something did not have in 1905 suddenly emerged in the historical map since 1820 in the map collections in 1987? How logically can you explain this?

If Qing Dynasty had governed Senkaku, the first edition of the map in 1905 should have shown that but it did not show that way in the first edition. Nothing personal to you or Chinese people, but for this dispute, there are so many solid hard evidences and legal logic that Japan can testify that Senkaku has been Japan since 1895. When Japan annexed Senkaku to OKinawa, Japan asked Qing to confirm if this is TERRA NULLIUS or not. After that japan did it. HOwever, this is 1895, many people might feel it has something to do with the result of war. In 1871 after the Miyakojima inhabitant incident, Qing dined governing the area which has nothing to do with the war then. Even if something to do with war, how the case of China expanded their land? Not just China, in this world, if we had to reset the world map based on the 15 century, the world could not maintain the order and peace we have today. I respect Vietnam that they reject the new Chinese passport which unilaterally expanded the territory of China.This year,the private Japanese owner of Senkaku sold the islands to his government because the maintenance of islands got almost impossible as an individual owner under this political circumstances.This is a domestic transaction which does not give any justification that Chinese destroyed Japanese business during the riot in up to 125 cities and seems Chinese government won't take any responsibility for that. But continuous provocative actions like this article reports. If Japan were the normal country, the plane would have been shot. Japan still show the commitment to keep the article#9. But unless China stops these actions, Japan might really change the constitution and beef up our militarily capability to increase the deterrence power but not to start a war. The US has been asking us for long time in order to lighten the burden for them. (True, many documents from US.)

I personally and many of my friends still feel we like to have article #9 as the stopper that we had a big discussion after our dinner yesterday. But if Shinocentrism becomes more conspicuous, not because we want to have any aggression but more comes from fear, in order to maintain the proper military balance and our diplomatic overture which is supported and comes with by military power as well. That is the way normal countries do. You know even on the surface level how many time more military budget China spent last 10 years compare to 1994? Unclear military expansion made us a very nervous nation. Also November 2011, officially China established Okinawa autonomy department (They call Ryukyu) We do not want to have Tibet, Uighur issue in Japan.

Therefore, we unwillingly might vote to change the constitutions. All my friends could not believe what we think now or say now. No one is the typical right wingers people might think but we love our country, family and cultural legacy. China, back off.

This issue is not an oil and water case. I would not say Japan is innocent but I can not accept the way it is presented. I have studied the case from many different sources. The best situation is setting up the 3rd countries historian team and Japan should promise whatever the out come would be, take its responsibility based on the history what that was based on the report. Some people here already believed everything what people learned is 100% a real history. I am sure I will get a lot of bads here.