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Posted in: Tokyo reports 4,561 news coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 25,744 See in context

So I know one of today's cases (second person I've known to actually get coronavirus in Japan).

Symptoms are flu-like, was easy for her to get tested, and now she's on the mend and will get a few days off work for it. Doesn't sound so bad for the large majority of healthy people. Be healthy, exercise, keep yourself in a good mental state by doing the things you love and being with the people you love as much as you can, probably read less doom and gloom news, get vaccinated to prevent serious symptoms.

If you don't want to get it at all, the only surefire way of doing so is to lock yourself up for a few years until the pandemic exhausts itself. Your choice.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 2,198 new virus cases; 1,711 in Osaka, 1,644 in Okinawa See in context

Gee, I sure hope these case numbers don't get any higher. :O

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 2,198 new virus cases; 1,711 in Osaka, 1,644 in Okinawa See in context

the four deaths is incorrect. Refer to world of meters for more accurate numbers.

https://www.worldometers.info gives coronavirus deaths for all of Japan only. Not Tokyo deaths.

C’mon, I asked first…give us a number. 

Lol.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 2,198 new virus cases; 1,711 in Osaka, 1,644 in Okinawa See in context

Can you give us a number of what constitutes an acceptable number of deaths, just so we know?

Actually I think the onus is on those who advocate restrictions to tell us what they think the minimum number of deaths should be before basic freedoms be taken away.

And if you are advocating restrictions here in Tokyo based on the 4 deaths (yes, just 4 deaths) we've seen since the beginning of December, I don't think we will find any common ground.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 962 new coronavirus cases; 775 in Okinawa See in context

What do you expect really mate? Just look at the things they’ve been saying over the past year.

I guess I'm just wondering at what point will they will finally calm down. In one sense, it's not even their fault - they've been riled up for 2 years now by sensationalist news designed to stimulate the worst and the wildest attributes of the human imagination.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 962 new coronavirus cases; 775 in Okinawa See in context

It's been 2 weeks since Tokyo reported any COVID-19 deaths. Since the beginning of December, only 4 people have died. That's 4 people in all of Tokyo, folks.

You wouldn't think it reading these comments though...

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 962 new coronavirus cases; 775 in Okinawa See in context

What's that - about 25% positivity rate?

So out of people who probably had some symptoms and wanted to get tested, 25% had COVID-19.

So 75% didn't have COVID-19... That's a quite a high negativity rate, right? :D

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Posted in: Okinawa reports 1,414 new coronavirus cases; 922 in Tokyo See in context

Right now boosters should be reserved for the vulnerable and for countries where people have yet to receive their first shot so we can help them and stop further variants.

The demands for boosters from healthy people in first world countries is simply shocking.

Some people are just not okay with getting a mild cough or sore throat. We want to stop vulnerable people from dying and taking up hospital beds. After we do that, you can have your sniffles shields.

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Posted in: Okinawa reports 1,414 new coronavirus cases; 922 in Tokyo See in context

Whether you are pro or anti vaccines/lockdowns, this is a big problem!

I'm pro vaccine and anti lockdown; now that 80% of Japanese are vaccinated and thereby at low risk of serious symptoms, there is absolutely no need for any business killing restrictions. Though, going by recent statements, I'm pretty sure Kishida will soon pull his trigger happy finger on another pointless State of Emergency.

But all that will mean is people will be go to restaurants that don't follow the guidelines.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 641 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 4,475 See in context

You have accepted the redefinition of vaccine. 

Vaccines were always a prophylactic measure to prevent serious disease. That's what we all learned in biology from secondary school onwards.. I think there might be some confusion in that vaccines were traditionally an inactive version of the same disease whereas these ones are mRNA vaccines. But the definition and principle by which they work is the same.

A smallpox paper from the 1960s - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2604088/?page=4

"By inducing an actual though harmless infection with a live, virulent virus, related to that which causes serious disease, one also induces immunity to the serious disease".

I don't understand these frequent references to the redefinition of vaccines business frequently mentioned here. Like, what's the issue here?

Vaccines = stop serious illness = end of the pandemic = good.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 641 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 4,475 See in context

@jkctlr89

Thank you for the link. We're not anywhere near a crisis point in hospital bed occupancy though.

@nonu6976

A calm and considered approach has always been (and has been proven to be) the best response to COVID-19 in Japan.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 641 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 4,475 See in context

Only 3 people hospitalized. Really no need for any restrictions if Tokyo isn't in any danger of hospital overcrowding.

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Posted in: Okinawa reports 623 new coronavirus cases; 390 in Tokyo See in context

Any mathematicians can extrapolate the approx number of fully vaccinated people getting infected?

You're trolling right? Vaccines help prevent against hospitalization and death. Even with omicron.*

Whether vaccinated people are still getting a runny nose or not is entirely irrelevant. Vaccines = good.

*https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2119270?query=featured_coronavirus

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Posted in: Okinawa reports 623 new coronavirus cases; 390 in Tokyo See in context

Like the rest of Japan, Okinawa should have made good use of the times with super low infections and start buildimng up hospital places.

As far as I know, it's more a case of training ICU nurses and personnel shortages. No idea if they've been doing this either as this would require significant investment and when the pandemic ends, they would be left on the hook for the increased workforce.

Anyway, this wave may not be so bad as to warrant increased investment seeing as omicron doesn't seem as severe as past variants and 80% of the population are now vaccinated which staves off the serious hospitalizations. Sometimes the best policy is to just to ignore the reactionists and let things be (e.g., extra testing would be a meaningless waste of money so don't do it, lockdowns would have killed businesses and produced negligible results so don't do it).

It might do us all well if the government would only release the number of severe hospitalizations rather than list every single patient with a cough or sore throat going forward.

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Posted in: Okinawa reports 623 new coronavirus cases; 390 in Tokyo See in context

Kishida has already proven to be an extreme reactionist. Given how hastily he shut the border and mandated strict government quarantines to be seen as the anti-Suga who "does things", I don't think he will have much choice but to enact another needless state of emergency in response to these increasing case numbers.

I do hope I'm wrong.

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Posted in: Japan reports 1,268 new infections; 225 in Okinawa, 151 in Tokyo See in context

So, it seems that even scientists don't know yet what will happen in the long-run.

True (at least they don't know for certain yet) but early indications* suggest the immune system is better capable at handling omicron than previous variants. More reason for optimism than negativity.

*https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.26.21268380v1

Just to add that all 58 cases in Osaka today has either mild or no symptoms**.

Would be great to have symptom details for future cases in Tokyo and Okinawa too.

**https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20220104/k10013415081000.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 1,268 new infections; 225 in Okinawa, 151 in Tokyo See in context

Considering yesterday was pretty much a public holiday, it's going to be a lot higher tomorrow. Hope this doesn't lead to another state of emergency.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 29 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 175 See in context

No testing...no cases!

No symptoms = no testing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 24 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 144 See in context

I shall be partaking in a 3 day trip with my partner this week. Everything open, no silly restrictions, or draconian measures.

Safe travels. I myself was supposed to fly out home tonight but cancelled due to omicron restrictions/quarantine imposed on international travel.

I will instead be planning a domestic trip. With these consistently low case numbers and no silly restrictions, Japan may well end up being one of freest and safest countries to live in over the holidays.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 7 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 79 See in context

That there is proof that the official covid positive count is way off.

The count shows the number of individuals that presented with symptoms that were then identified as Covid-19 cases. It's not way off - Japan is clearly doing better than other countries.

It would be great if we could figure out why.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 20 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 149 See in context

I was thinking about this very topic today; the topic being the number of cases of coronavirus in Tokyo. My oh my the comments under this news article discussing this topic have changed since the summer. You had so many comments spouting off about implementing restrictions and lockdowns over the summer. Where are these panic peddlers now? I should like to have on-topic discussions with them.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 21 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 136 See in context

no testing, no positives.

No symptoms, no testing, no problem. ¯\(ツ)

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 19 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 115 See in context

Going to be a good Holiday Period for us here in Japan. Let’s all enjoy and spread joy and be thankful we aren’t living in the States or Europe.

Right you are, Steve. Japan's made all the right moves during the pandemic as evidenced by the low death rate and compliance with protective measures. The omicron variant is expected is become the prevalent variant in most countries by early January even with draconian lockdowns againlooming but we in Japan will likely be able celebrate the New Year without any restrictions.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 7 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 60 See in context

How was this any different from the approach of all other G7 countries?

Not to get too far off topic but his chairmanship of the G20 led to the united stimulus action of $1 trillion that averted another Great Depression - this was even with heavy German reluctance at the time. If you want a good comparison of world leaders and their policies at the time (and also leaders of the 1930s and their policies), I recommend Hall of Mirrors by Barry Eichengreen. Brown was probably the only leader at the time who understood the severity of the problem.

Under Suga, Japan had the lowest death rate of any G7 country and this is despite having the world's oldest population - and no lockdowns. With Suga's policies, Japan's population is now also the most vaccinated G7 country.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-cumulative-confirmed-cases-vs-confirmed-deaths?xScale=linear&yScale=linear&zoomToSelection=true

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 7 new coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 60 See in context

Suga-san was dealt a pair of 2's at best and played them the best he could.

My guess is Suga will eventually be remembered as one of the best world leaders during the coronavirus pandemic. Similar to how people now recognize Gordon Brown for his management of the financial crisis (compared to other completely inept world leaders at the time).

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Posted in: 2nd Omicron case confirmed; Japan to bar foreign residents' re-entry from 10 African nations See in context

disctiminating against foreign passport holders with long-term visas who pose no higher risk than those with Japanese visas.

Well actually the government have told airlines to stop bookings from taking place so Japanese nationals will also find themselves in this predicament. They can't actually ban Japanese nationals from returning home but I think this effectively does that.

I know everyone's disappointed (me too, I had plans to return home for the first time in three years) but I don't want to see another state of emergency with businesses having to shut down either. There are so many places already that had to shut down permanently from last time.

Maybe it feels good to trash the government but they are taking these steps for a reason.

Fingers crossed that early reports of Omicron being less virulent than previous strains are accurate.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 19 coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 121 See in context

.... and I assume that Johns Hopkins university of medicine is trustworthy (too).

Yes, definitely a good one too. I think a better case fatality would imply that the cases were diagnosed and then they got better. Whereas here in Japan, we probably had fewer cases being diagnosed due to less testing so it would skew to severe cases only being diagnosed who would be less likely to get better. I'd pick deaths per 100,000 as being a better comparator for how well a country has handled the pandemic myself. Though if other people suggested different factors such as % of population vaccinated, ICU bed capacity, lockdown restrictions, etc. I'd be open to including them in a metric as well.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 19 coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 121 See in context

Australia, Bahrain, Andorra, the Netherlands 

Japan: 146 deaths per million

Australia: 77 deaths per million

Bahrain: 781 deaths per million

Andorra: 1,692 deaths per million

The Netherlands: 1,115 deaths per million

*https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

So fair enough Australia has slightly fewer deaths but with horrible restrictions implemented to do so.

As someone who has lived in Japan for xx years, would you rather live in Australia? Especially over the past 2 years? Probably not, I would think.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 19 coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 121 See in context

Effective policy breeds effective results.

I hope the rest of the world is watching Japan and learning.

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 5 coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 77 See in context

Brilliant! Let's keep it low. No need to rush up opening the borders.

Your very sensible comment is being downvoted by the very kneejerk "data analysts" who advocated lockdown only a couple of months ago.

Small businesses deserve breathing space before being brought to their knees again to a chorus of childish "we want this" tantrums.

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