The links you provided is actually a different metric which is healthcare. So you didn't read properly my post. But anyway, the links you provided also dispute the statement made by Ipanema Beach which was that Germany is the healthiest country in Europe. So what's your point? My point was that he is saying something flat wrong and I provided a link to prove that. Your links prove even further that from whatever side you take it, Germany is not the healthiest country in Europe.
Note: The Bloomberg Healthiest Country Index is "based on based on variables including life expectancy while imposing penalties on risks such as tobacco use and obesity. It also takes into consideration environmental factors including access to clean water and sanitation."
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I agree with him to an extent, hygiene in Japan is far and away superior than in the West. In my home Germany, the healthiest in Europe, hygiene standards are pitiful compared to Japan and even South Korea but not as much.
Again look at the link I provided, this is not true. By the way the toilets in the station close to where I live has no soap. The toilets in the station close to where I work has no soap. I went to Tokyo station a few days ago and no soap in the toilets I used. So give me a break.
And Germany the healthiest in Europe. Really? According to the Bloomberg Healthiest Country Index, Spain is the healthiest county in Europe and in the world. It is followed by Italy, Iceland and Japan. Germany ranked 23. Ranking better than Germany in Europe are Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Luxembourg, France, Finland, Netherlands, UK, Ireland, Cyprus and Portugal. So before you say something you better come up with figures to back it up. Thanks.
I'm not surprised that the virus has collapsed Mediterranean and Western Europe, and the Americas have failed in every single category. It doesn't take much critical thought to see the catastrophic health and hygiene problems of these countries.
Again, you are making a judgement out of a wrong representation of the reality.
lack of common sense was the cause of the disaster in the West. Not so in Japan.
Well you do have a short memory. Japan is the county which until the Olympics were cancelled pretended that nothing was happening. This is the country which has decided to do very few tests although all experts in and outside Japan agree that's not the way to do it. Like a Japanese virologist said a few days ago, luck is a better explanation than anything else.
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Japanese wash their hands properly much less frequently than people where I'm from. Ever used a public male restroom here?
Yeah, there was even a survey done for that matter. Only slightly more than 40 percent of those polled use soap to wash their hands. All this disinformation in Japanese and foreign media about Japanese hygiene is non sense. It has no ground in reality.
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almost a symbol of its celebrated work ethic
Work ethic? In Japan? Are you serious? This is the country of harassment at work, low pay and exploitation.
The train is the symbol of Japanese workaholic society
Workaholic, really? Let's look at the labor productivity shall we. So looking at the GDP per hour worked, we find before Japan: Ireland, Norway, Germany, USA, Switzerland, France, UK, Australia, Italy, Spain and Canada. Japan makes barely better than Greece. Yeah sure workaholic, well maybe it's more accurate to say that they pretend to be.
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According to data from Johns Hopkins University, the COVID-19 mortality rate per 100,000 people was 0.72 in Japan, while it was 32.76 in the United States, 43.33 in France, and 59.88 in the United Kingdom as of Wednesday. The rate was relatively low in Asia, with China at 0.33 and Thailand at 0.08.
This is disinformation and you should be ashamed of that. Last month, the Pasteur institute in France issued a study where it evaluated the virus mortality rate in the country at 0.7%. So just stop throwing around meaningless numbers for the sake of the Japanese propaganda.
On top of that, using a similar argument expressed in this article, I could tell you that pretty much all Africa is doing better than Japan. So we should all praise the higher "level of social manners" there.
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Among the recommendations, thrill-seekers will be asked to wear masks at all times and "refrain from vocalizing loudly" on rollercoasters and other rides.
This is insanity at its highest point. In what kind of world of fear and anxiety are we going into here?
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It has been proven that the virus goes away when everyone wears masks.
Actually no, but let's assume it does so that it makes you feel better.
But if you get it and don't wear a mask, it will spread.*
Yeah but the problem is not that it spreads. The problem is who gets infected. As long as there isn't a cure or a vaccin to protect the vulnerable ones, those people need to take the necessary actions to protect themselves. For the rest of the population, we know much more than three monts ago and the fact that it spreads is not really relevant since the data show that it isn't dangerous for them. I could even argue that no one was ever worrying about the flu and flying, but it still is responsible for the death of many people across the world very year. So my point is that I don't think that the over-reaction of ANA is needed here. Again particularly because like the other air companies, it has packed as much people as possible in its planes.
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If I had the virus wouldn't you want me wearing a mask , or you don't care?
Again it depends on who "you" is. The data from the pandemic are clear now. For a large part of the population, there isn't an excess of mortality. It just isn't there. If "you" means a person with heath conditions or an elderly, again they are grown up adults to take the necessary decisions to protect themselves.
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Certainly one of my favorite airlines.
Oh yeah! Look at the how much they charge for domestic flights for the most basic services that any air company provides. This is disgraceful.
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People who refuse masks are a danger to others. The mask is not for you -- no one cares if you get sick. It is to protect the health of others.
Stop this silly accusations. People who have health conditions or in an age that make them vulnerable to the COVID-19 have to take their own responsibilities to protect themselves. Either avoid travelling for the time being or use better protective masks. Stop to treat people like little kids, they are adults.
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Screw up that non sense.
They are just thinking about saving their business and not at all about the confort of their passengers. For decades they have squeezed people up in planes like fishes in a tin can ignoring the issues of hygiene which existed already before the COVID-19. And now with a giant hypocrisy, they are forcing people to wear masks without any consideration that many people feel discomfort wearing them, let alone in a plane. What have they going to do for long fights? Asking people to wear a mask non-stop for 10+ hours? Give me a break please,
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Japan society values a strong system of hierarchy everywhere. In every situation there is the dominating side and the submissive side. A job seeker is the submissive side, whoever is the representative of the company is the dominating one. A customer in a shop is the dominating side, the staff is the submissive side. The wife is the submissive side, the husband is the dominating side. Etc.
This state unsurprisingly favors discrimination, any kind of harassement and even violence. It will take a complete upset of this society with a major shift in the way people are educated to change that.
Some have implemented a rule requiring employees to only meet with prospective hires of the same sex.
This is ridiculous and counter productive. They are not going to make things better by separating men and women.
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and committed a breach of trust
Really? The one who committed a breach of trust are the fools at Nissan and the small pets at Renault that fabricated all this situation that cost the two companies an enormous amount of money. Look at where Nissan and Renault are now, look at where the so-called alliance is now. Look at how much capitalization those companies lost and look at their collapse of profits. This was even before the COVID-19 and it will get much worse for them from now on. Nissan already announced few months ago that to it will cut 12,500 jobs worldwide and that it will pull out from mainland Europe closing facilities in France and Spain. Renault is about to annonce a massive restructuring plan that could see also the closing of major plants.
If I would be Ghosn, I would be having a good laugh now watching those idiots trying to keep their head above the water.
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I should also recall to some people here that Saikawa who admitted receiving excess pay never got prosecuted by the same so-called prosecutors that fabricated the charges against Ghosn. You can be as a Japan fanboy as you want, the reality of facts is stubborn and there is no way to defend Japan here. They fabricated a scandal and accusations to get rid of Ghosn, period.
Now if US decides to extradite them to Japan, it will prove how stupid and naive some Western countries can be towards Japan thinking that the latter is a rule of law country. It isn't, it operates more as a mafia. The oligarchy protects its members and those never go to jail. The rest of the population gets to be under an arbitrary, brutal and dysfunctional justice system.
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Yeah this is crazy. Makes no sense. I would agree about controlling and limiting the flux of people, but a complete close is ridiculous.
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Someone is still bitching about a lack of soap in public restrooms at train stations. Or as they say: major toilets.
Yeah Einstein, lack of soap in public toilets in a so called hygienic country.
And asserting that 'Japanese' (who or what that means) have poor hygiene, which is noticeable if you live in Japan long enough. Really? You have spent significant time in toilets all across Japan?
Yeah just spending 20 years living and working here. And here is a survey about hand washing after toilet in Japan in 2016:
Almost one in five people polled said that they occasionally skip washing their hands and its get worse when looking at the people who claim to wash them. Only slightly more than 40 percent of those polled seemed to understand that the use of soap is really the deciding factor in whether or not you’re “washing” something. And the bidet function is not an excuse since the percentage of bidet function users is smaller than that of non-soap users, and by a pretty wide margin.
And sniffing around to identify bad hygiene among the entire population?
Just take take the train during rush hour.
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BCG-induced trained immunity: can it offer protection against COVID-19?
Yeah for example, that's a a path of exploration. There are many others being explored: genetics; a recent scientific analysis have shown that although the observed strains of the virus have very little change between them, the strain affecting Europe and East US has a slight difference in the location where antibodies get attach to it which causes the cytokine storm among certain individuals: vitamin D and immunity health; obesity, etc.
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hand soap in many public toilets
Go to major toilets in major stations across Japan and see if there is soap there. And anyone living in Japan long enough knows that Japanese have terrible hand hygiene as in many other countries.
The only thing you wrote and that could make sense is the lack of obesity.
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Other countries that dodged the bullet seem to be those places where mask wearing is common in daily life; and also where people don't touch each other much socially.
Non sense! A place called Africa, a whole continent, has a tiny amount of cases given the large populations and the low wealth of many countries there. Not to mention that your theory about wearing mask and having low sociability does not make many sense there. And actually it doesn't not make sense in Japan either, since the country has every year a large pandemic of flu. Here is the report of the flu outbreak last year:
In the country of masks and low sociability, at that time Japan's health ministry reported that an estimated 1.6 million people were treated for flu symptoms in the week to February 3 2019. So is your theory still holding? I don't think so, moreover given that like the flu, the COVID-19 is a respiratory decease that pretty much spread the same way.
The reason why Japan has a low number of infected people is because it didn't test, period. The number of asymptomatic people with this virus is huge and without testing, they just can't be detected. Not only that, hospitals in Japan refused to test people having COVID-19 like symptoms but which were judged insufficient to mandate a test. This alone is thousands of people. At the current infection rate, the number of infected people is probably more than 60,000 right now. The strategy of Japan has been to test very few to mechanically decrease the number of reported cases, saving face strategy at its best.
Now, they could do that because they did not have a surge of people in critical conditions (and so death) as it has been observed on the East Coast of US and in some countries in Europe. But this has nothing to do with "culture" in contrary to what the silly Japanophiles are saying. The scientific reasons why some populations are more effected than others are still not clear but it has to do with science not dogmatism.
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because they are brainwashed into thinking Western standards of beauty are the ideal to strive for.
Brained washed by who? If they are are, that's by their own television and media, so by themselves. But I don't think that it has anything to do with brain washing, This is more about inferiority complex and truth to be said, it has some base to it. Genetics is so that non-asian women and men have some physical attributes that asians can't just have. That's how it is.
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While the coronavirus pandemic has led to school closures and people working from home, some see this as a good time to try something they have always wanted to -- plastic surgery.
Say what you want but what sometimes people in Japan really behave incredibly strangely. I mean they are asked to confine as much as possible because of a virus, but some of them decide to go to clinics for cosmetic surgery. It's just baffling.
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A veteran nurse in the northern island of Hokkaido said the mother of one of her coworkers was suspended from work. The husband of another was told at a job interview he wouldn't be hired because of his wife’s job.
I find that this sentence tells it all. If you know Japan well, you would understand right way that it summarizes so well what Japan's society really is and its oppressive nature.
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Random acts of hatred. Omotenashi. The paradox that is Japan.
Omotenashi is purely business to sell a service. This is money motivated. There isn't any sincere part in it.
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Ok so what I get from the Japan apologists is that when a positive thing is said about Japan, they call out loud the Japanese uniqueness. But otherwise, they would insist on saying that other counties have the same issue. Hypocrisy at its best.
And I don't even see what's the news here. Anyone having lived here long enough with an objective view and who knows Japan's past is not surprised to know that there are a lot of, oh yeah a lot terrible individuals in this country who hide behind fake smiles and literally have serious mental issues.
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Who said that it was an on-off switch? I was replying to someone that claimed that herd immunity has been reached in Japan which makes no sense. Even if the Swedish 30% infection level to observe the beginning of a herd immunity is correct (although the current scientific consensus put it at least at 60%), still no way that 30% of the Japanese population has been infected.
And as of Monday morning, health officials have confirmed at least 288,076 total confirmed cases in New York State. There are almost 20 million people living in New York State so I leave up to you the conclusion.
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it's because officials are deliberately not testing enough people to show the 'true' numbers, and things of that nature.
Yeah but this is a real issue in Japan whether or not the low number of testing is intentionally made so by the authorities. Japan is not testing enough even though they have admitted recently that among the new cases discovered, 70% of them can not be traced anymore. So they need to test. But they are not. Again the data speak of themselves, Japan is making 1169 tests per million people nationally and a ridiculous 672 tests per million people in Tokyo. Countries like Italy or Greece that I heard so many times Japanese describe them as "unorganized" do 29650 tests per million people and 6000 tests per million people respectively. So what's your answer to that? Even the number of fatalities caused by the virus seems to be unreliable because Japan is not counting properly (although this is surely not the level seen in some countries in Europe or US).
Also note that Japanese experts are calling for more tests in order to know how far the virus has really spread within the population. So I don't see why you are being so apologist.
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or just an example of herd immunity.
Which heard immunity are you talking about? This would require at least that 60% of the population should have been infected by the virus (since no vaccin is available and people need to be infected to get immune). Are you saying that 60% of the population in Japan have been infected? I don't think so.
Tokyo reports 39 new coronavirus cases; lowest in 4 weeks
I am tired that the Japanese authorities are playing the population for a fool by coming up with numbers that contradict the message that they are telling to people. Either they decide to test in mass in order to better know the spread of the virus or they just stop coming up with meaningless numbers like this one (this number is just the number of people showing up with symptoms which were judged enough to mandate a test). Because otherwise they just should let people live their life and stop annoying us with this "stay home" thing.
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diatonic- hak you raise some prevelant points.
Yeah my point is why for example an oyaji bureaucrat making a lot of money (and doing little work cough cough) should get this money? He will just use it as an extra to spend at a hostess bar.
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Economists predict coronavirus job fallout will be greater than Lehman shock
No worries. Japan will make sure to cover that up too. They will do like usual, make sure not to get reliable data on the unemployment rate. No data means no problem.
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but pressure has mounted on Abe to boost the help with a payment of 100,000 yen for every citizen.
I am not convinced by this. I would have preferred that they consider lowering some taxes (car related, municipalities tax, income tax, property tax, etc) instead of going for a cash payment which is not really useful. There isn't such thing as a free launch. We will have to pay this back anyway.
And a major issue is that people who continue to earn comfortable salaries will get that, it does not make sense. Acting on taxes would allow to avoid that and have people still earning a lot pay more than the others. But I guess intelligence is not something that I should except from the Japanese government.
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