I would listen to these guys before the Lancet, WHO and CDC combined.
Completely agree. All three of these organizations are no longer credible.
And the Lancet in particular has already been routed out as complicit in Peter Daszak’s unethical and unauthorized activities.
Absolutely fake scientific reporting
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This “Variant” development was expected. Especially under an overblown emergency that allowed the opportunity for EUA medicines to be deployed by opportunists.
Always following the “science” of their choice under the TINA banner. There have been other options and data available throughout this crisis that has indicated medical alternatives to EUA experimental trial vaccines.
“For this study, published on June 17 in the American Journal of Therapeutics, a group of scientists reviewed the clinical trial use of ivermectin, which has antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, in 24 randomized controlled trials involving just over 3,400 participants. The researchers sought to assess the efficacy of ivermectin in reducing infection or mortality in people with COVID-19 or at high risk of getting it.
Using multiple methods of sequential analysis, the researchers concluded with a moderate level of confidence that the drug reduced the risk of death in COVID-19 patients by an average of 62 percent, at a 95 percent confidence interval of 0.19-0.79, in a sample of 2438 patients.
Among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, the risk of death was found to be 2.3 percent among those treated with the drug, compared to 7.8 percentfor those who were not, according to the review.
“Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease,” the authors wrote.
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Not having anything else to use? And do you understand that poses a credibility issue right there?
Why would I accept that from agencies I do not trust?
And it seems a lot of medical professionals are encountering the same issue.
When I am faced with an illness that has over. 99% survival rate, I don’t feel it’s necessary to subject the planet to an experimental medicine pushed via untrusted organizations.
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That makes no sense, it has been proved to be hugely safer than the infection by any parameter possible, it is then something well know.
You must know something the FDA doesn’t.
Right off their own website.
“Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. Taking into consideration input from the FDA, manufacturers decide whether and when to submit an EUA request to FDA.”
No adequate, approved, and approved alternatives? Well, it’s coming to light that’s not exactly true for most.
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The causes of long COVID, which is also known as long haul COVID, post-COVID syndrome or post-acute sequelae of COVID, remain unknown.
And the exact same thing can said with regards to the vaccine. It’s an EUA approval only.
An Emergency that DOES NOT apply to the majority of the population. Clearly indicated by the data.
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But its not a joke, they will absolutley blame the olympics and the 'outsiders' for the surge that has already happened but they are suppressing until then. They have a scapegoat every time and even now, testing is ridiculously low the cases are very high it is ignored as evidenced by articles such as this.
Sounds absolutely apocalyptic.
They never seem to state the recoveries either because it’s not newsworthy.
Maybe it’s time for another GoTo Program?
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With vaccination rate still low, experts are concerned about the increased flow of the people in Tokyo despite the emergency. Many residents have become impatient and are less cooperative with social distancing requests, they say.
What Experts? They have had 18 months to sell this “Emergency” gig.
People aren’t less cooperative. They are more informed.
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I wish I could hope that this will mean a change for the next time an urgent medical intervention is necessary but it is more likely the things will go back to their usual glacial pace from next year.
The “oceanfront in Arizona” statement of the month. Next year will unlikely be back at its usual glacial pace.
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"It's probably necessary for ordinary times, but in the case of emergency, or state of emergency, like COVID-19, I think we should have started the vaccination as early as possible."
What a an absolutely ridiculous statement.
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The Lancet has lost all credibility .
And Peter Daszak has no credibility either.
Everything seems to be a “conspiracy theory“ to those suffering from myopia.
There may be opinions on the Olympics. But the Lancet cannot expect to be taken seriously.
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Actually I do, I may be a former paramedic but I like to keep up on certain things, I also read several French ones from France and Canada, I don't spend my time reading fiction like the Q do.
I believe the link I posted was from the Lancet itself.
“We can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources,” Mandeep Mehra of Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Frank Ruschitzka of University Hospital Zurich, and Amit Patel of University of Utah said in a statement issued by the Lancet. “Due to this unfortunate development, the authors request that the paper be retracted.”
But that doesn’t matter, does it? And neither does your former occupation.
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That would be the same Lancet that just a few months back (before we knew about Faucis emails) claimed that the Coronavirus could not possible related the Wuhan virus lab? Gotta love our "experts".
Same one. A big Pharma sounding board.
And not clever enough to avoid ridicule.
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Wasted time wasted resources instead of concentrating on getting the local population Vaccinated and things back to some semblance of normality.
And waste of time reading...
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So I guess you consider the New England journal of medicine and The BMJ also rags?
What about 2 Japanese doctors associations and nurses associations also politicized groups?
What about thinking for yourself?
I had no idea you actually read those other journals
You know how truth is these days: Just change it to make it fit.
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The Lancet said the silence by the World Health Organization and other major health bodies such as the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is a "deflection of responsibility" as the Olympics and the Paralympics could lead to spreading the virus in Japan and other countries.
Who cares what the Lancet says. Another politicized rag.
Peter Daszak’s channel of misinformation.
Enough of this scam.
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Tax avoidance is perfectly ethical. As ethical as mandatory taxes, government spending, and government services .
Tax evasion is illegal, as opposed to avoidance. So avoidance is your option as someone that generates revenue and profits. If there is an ethical issue with tax laws, then change them.
Assuming that tax laws are even ethical in the first place.
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If you yourself have accepted the EUA for children is necessary so those with high risk of complications and death from COVID can receive vaccines how come you think it is fine to criticize those that also think the same?
Lol .. but as we all know, I have accepted no such thing. Because the data does not support it. As I have repeatedly presented.
I don’t criticize anyone. I only point out where ridiculous claims and unsupported statements are made in the name of Science. A science experiment to be more specific.
I only posted a link to some questions that many others pose. And now you insinuate that I have a “mistaken impression” concerning civil liberties?
I apologize if I have presented some simple questions and you have yet again drifted off topic in an effort to deflect the discussion.
I just assumed that the people whose health had been damaged by these vaccines were also members requiring protection.
Do you believe that those family members (the younger ones) must be subjected to a risk of serious injury to protect others? Show me the data where this is true.
You cannot. And you have no clue. And neither do the drug makers. That’s why the EUA classification.
Once again, the unfounded fear seems to reside on your side of an unsupported argument.
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Sooner or later, Japan will have to start behaving like an independent nation. And focus on the interests of its own people.
Whether one agrees with it or not, China, Russia , and Eurasia will have an increasing influence on Japan’s future. The US influence is diminishing with each passing decade.
It’s time Japan emerges from its vassal state status, and starts charting a path of self interest towards its own future.
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By his own words "justify the Emergency for the respective demographic in question - the younger people."
Please refrain from adding your interpretation to what I have repeatedly made clear. We’ve seen enough of that.
It’s quite clear :
There is NO Emergency in the 0 to 20 yr demographic , regardless of preconditions. Covid-19 has not any significant impact on this demographic. Period. That’s what the data clearly states.
For most of the population, the measures that have been taken to date have been unjustified. Because an EUA medicine should not be deployed where there is no emergency.
The small minority at risk from Covid-19 should have theses vaccines made available to them ASAP. And it’s 100% their choice to receive them.
Those are my words. And I prefer not to have another party of limited capacity and understanding to interpret them otherwise.
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Still waiting for you to justify taking out of parents the choice to vaccinate their kids when they have preexisting conditions that can make the infection lethal with high probability.
And according to the Japan figures: Just how lethal is it to those kids after almost 18 months? Does “zero” sound like high probability or does it sound like actual to you? Real data.
So as a parent, I am blindly expected to subject my kids to an experimental EUA drug that has already caused dangerous and unexpected side effects in some . As you have recently learned, that’s why these drugs are classified Investigational / Experimental.
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No need for these dang shots to return to normal...
CDC posts 78% of COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the US are overweight or obese. 30% obese !
CDC posts that compared with 5- to 17-year-olds, the rate of death is 45 times higher in 30- to 39-year-olds, and 8,700 times higher in those who are 85-plus. Note: Japan has had zero deaths in the 5 to 17 yr old category.
CDC also states that as of March 30, 2020, 89.3%, hospitalized patients had one or more underlying conditions; the most common were hypertension (49.7%), obesity (48.3%), chronic lung disease (34.6%), diabetes mellitus (28.3%), and cardiovascular disease (27.8%). These findings suggest that older adults have elevated rates of COVID-19–associated hospitalization and the majority of persons hospitalized with COVID-19 have underlying medical conditions.
Stanford Medicine says COVID-19 hospitalizations among children likely over counted.
And on and on it goes. Even using their own data, these agencies cannot justify some of the completely misplaced emergency measures to date.
Waiting for the. 2+2=5 Science Guy to pontificate on a the absolute need to subject everyone to an EUA medicine where emergencies do not exist. All based on sound data that is never produced. The essays are entertaining nevertheless.
Japan by all means needs to refine and define the state of emergency. One reasonable suggestion is to target the elderly, overweight, and community already suffering from one or more high risk disease. And make an attempt to protect them first.
For the healthy majority and the young, there is no emergency. There is only rampant “covidiocy” from our governments as they blow away what’s left of their credibility.
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It’s a lesson in life when you are bought and paid for.
Make your fortune, and then you call your own shots.
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I fail to see virusrex's point that this article disproves the idea that "regulating bodies in medicine are deeply in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies".
Exactly. It’s a recurring cognitive issue coupled with claims of better data that can never be revealed.
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A silver lining is that this controversy helps dispelling the multiple conspiracy theories that say all regulating bodies in medicine are deeply in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies, so these kind of discussions and resignations are supposedly impossible to see, because everybody is paid to hide all negative information. This at least helps proving what actually happens when approval is based on faint evidence. (and this doesn't even have safety problems, only insufficient proof of efficacy).
What part of the Conspiracy Theory is Theory.
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The only benefit is to the company charging a ridiculous $56,000 per year for nothing.
That must have slipped your mind.
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The “Magnificent Seven” have made a lifestyle choice and will soon be sharing needles. I expect great things to happen.
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Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd
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Japanese Clinical trials begin on members of LDP
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Why would I do that if my whole point is that the Japanese data is extremely lacking? specially with much better data sets being available that would give a much better basis to make judgments.
Present the better data please, and justify the Emergency for the respective demographic in question - the younger people.
That seems pose a consistent challenge.
i can’t wait for the justification to bring these EUA products down to 6 month old kids..
As proudly proclaimed on the Pfizer website. With no relevant supporting data.
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This do not make the people being experimented on, else people would be experimental subjects to every drug available in the market, somewhere someone is "gattering data on now" for everything, from penicillin to aspirin. The vaccines are being used for their therapeutic value, so people are not being subjects of experimentation.
Written with such conviction. By someone who denied these medicines as being under experimental / investigational classification up until a few days ago.
And of course I select data on a demographic that shows negligible adverse effects to Covid-19 . Because my argument was never anti-vaccine. It was always the risk / benefit discussion of an experimental EUA drug deployment where a real Emergency actually exists.
Why is the actual mortality rate numbers per age group (real published data) the worst data set? Why don’t you present your “much better” data? I am very receptive to it.
And I don’t believe it should be Big Pharma that promotes EUA via its influence within our public regulatory agencies. Their funding should be eliminated or heavily restricted.
Unfortunately for some, these distinctions are irrelevant or ignored.
So be it.
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