Oh yes please, play that game.
While you're at it, don't forget how Korean families sold their daughters and how the Korean government knew these victims were there and refused compensation for them when Japan asked whether people should be compensated. If you contribute, contribute everything.
Never forget how the Koreans shamelessly betrayed their own kin and then have the nerve to plaster the whole responsibility on Japan.
Of course, there are Koreans who know this and seek compensation from their own government, which I find important and right.
The more this goes on, the more it seems both sides are using this for votes - this is just a hunch though.
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If he's detained by authorities, then he must have overstayed his visa or broke some form of immigration procedure, something this article cleverly left out. Ergo, 自業自得.
You aren't detained for seeking asylum, nor is it a human rights violation when you prevent someone who, according to past experieces is very likely to flee authorities, from doing exactly that.
In Europe, he would have been able to run away and even get money for every identity he registers. Fellow didn't research beforehand.
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I have to thank Nissan & Co for presenting me with such a great negative example for my compliance presentation.
Corruption, conflict of interest, lack of financial integrity and many more problems all in there.
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The money was paid in 1965. Case closed
Not only was the sum paid, Korea flat out declined compensation for individuals in minutes of the 1965 agreement. Thus, this was de facto part of the agreement since this very problem was at least talked about.
If Korea wanted compensation for war crimes, it would have included this in the treaty. Truth of the matter is, Korea didn't give a damn, but that's not Japan's legal liability. That's why the case is closed for Japan with the 1965 agreement - don't forget it's Japan who tried to open the doors for individual compensation. Korea slammed it shut.
Korea is trying to avoid responsibility for a problem they created themselves and are trying to shift the blame.…
Since there's no statute of limitations for these allegedly never settled war crimes, Korea could sue Japan internationally. The fact that they don't and make national rulings instead shows that the government cold-heartedly doesn't care one bit about its own citizens. The fact they voided the last treaty proved it's a political stunt.
This is something Samit never even responded to, which is ignoring inconvenient facts for me.
All in all, what South Korea is doing to distract from domestic problems is pretty sickening and unfair to its own citizens.
These are my last words on this article.
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Where was this merch when I was in my edgy chuu-ni days? It would have been the icing on the cake.
0 ( +0 / -0 )
Then Mitsubishi's assets will be seized to pay the claimants.
Which would be unlawful and open a can of worms for South Korea, see below...
The 1965 treaty doesn't cover damages resulting from the illegal actions on the part of Japan[…]Japan could have had that final resolution[…]included the word "damages"
You forgot to mention that Japan offered Korea compensation for victims, which it declined formally branding individual compensation a Korean matter. As such, the burden lies on SK.
Also, the Korean supreme court simply doesn't have the competence to rule on or interpret bilateral treaties, as instruments for revision (in this case: none) and problems of interpretation (as stipulated in article 3 paragraphs 1 and 2 of the treaty) are to be settled in a specific way. Thus, SK is breaking the treaty by passing its own unilateral judgements and your argument is thus invalidated by legal ignorance.
…stands to make a net gain of 2 trillion dollars…
Wishful thinking, as this is a total sum which will most likely take multiple years and hundreds of millions every year. The result would still be a remarkable increase, but nothing too grand. You also can't calculate money you don't have coming in yet.
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As a German happily married to a Japanese woman, I wish them all the best.
-1 ( +0 / -1 )
Pathetic move by South Korea this week - check
South Korea being too scared to sue Japan internationally, instead making unlawful advances - check
Claims that South Koreans are not entitled to, thanks to their own past government's incompetence/corruption - check
Breach of 1965 treaty (Article Ⅲ, paragraphs 1 and 2) by SK - check
People ignorant of treaties somehow defending SK on a basket-weaving discussion forum - check
Opportunity for Mitsubishi and other Japanese firms to conveniently slim down on Korean staff - big likely check that Korea brought upon itself ：）
Opportunity for Japan to sue South Korea internationally if this persists - check
Another day the world is laughing at South Korea for its silliness.
Thanks for making my day, JT and its people... (´ω｀)
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DO THE MARIO!
1 ( +1 / -0 )
She expressed her right to wear and express what she wants, probably for publicity.
TV Asahi expressed their right to draw cosequences and cancel her performance, probably to save face.
Fair enough, but nothing worthy to write about. Both parties acted in their respective best interests and both parties weighed their options.
So nothing of value gained or lost.
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Nice that you ignore the fact that Korea outright declined such compensations for victims in the first place.
There's a reason there wasn't any victim compensation:
It wasn't part of the agreement as Japan's efforts to provide individual compensations were dismissed by the Korean government. Despite Korea declaring this as a domestic problem at the time, they haven't paid their citizens jack. It's well documented in post-war literature how they have betrayed their citizens. But that's not something which Japan should account for.
You can't just dismiss possible compensation for your citizens, resolve matters finally and irreversibly and then backstab the treaty partner to pay anyways. It's the Korean government who screwed this up, so they should compensate. By the way the SK government is even in clear violation of the treaty as they don't seek resolution through political channels.
DieRealityCheck has even posted a direct export of the dialogue of the two parties. But I guess you will ignore that and any inconvenient evidence as well.
If the SK government is so right, why don't they sue Japan internationally? It's because it's nothing more than a publicity stunt to get votes. Blaring propaganda is the one thing Korea is good at, after all.
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Ilovecoffee and friends with the same opinion:
Let's just ignore the ad hominem remark of ilovecoffee and not forget the fact that Japan wanted to compensate individuals, but Korea didn't want that.
In January 2005, the South Korean government disclosed 1,200 pages of diplomatic documents that recorded the proceeding of the treaty. The documents, kept secret for 40 years, recorded that the Japanese government actually proposed to the South Korean government to directly compensate individual victims but it was the South Korean government which insisted that it would handle individual compensation to its citizens and then received the whole amount of grants on behalf of the victims.
Moreover, you state that
The 1965 treaty is about Economic Aid, not compensation for forced labor.
Which is simply not true. You can read the treaty online, but nowhere does it say what the money can and cannot be used for. That is entirely up to the receiving party, so you are merely stating what it was used for, which was SK's responsibility.
You can educate yourself here to prevent further 'twilight zones' of your own. What the treaty says and doesn't say is very clear. It's also why SK doesn't sue Japan. The burden of compensation lies with the Korean government. This is a political stunt, if you haven't noticed already. =)
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So the SK surpreme court 'ruled' on something that is entirely out of their scope of competence. Bring it in front of an international court and see what happens.
SK's surpreme court can rule what they want, they won't get far without going to international court.
There's a reason why SK doesn't go there, despite all the times they whine about old wartime stories. It's because they know it's fruitless.
Nothing but a pathetic publicity stunt.
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People who want to learn a language are most successful by using mImicry, as that's what you do when you're a child..
If this AI turns out to be successful, which is not realistic but one can still dream, then English speakers will actually have to learn proper Japanese and get some real skills as opposed to becoming an English teacher,. It's those teaching careers who fail to integrate only to land on JT to whine and moan about how bad and xenophobic Japan is.
Any burden to them is a boon to me.
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Are you speaking to your fellow posters or those who have been crowing "lock her up" about Hillary Clinton?
I have nothing against Hillary, and she isn't part of this discussion so I'll take this as a rhetorical question.
Conversely why are some people so desperate to believe that rich and powerful men are innocent of sexual assault?
I'm not desperate to believe anything, read my post again. He's innocent until proven guilty PERIOD.
-1 ( +0 / -1 )
Some people seem to have already convicted him by accusation alone while hypocritically shouting how full of hatred others are.
I don't care about whether he's a dem or a con, since both are two sides of the same corrupt coin in a 'two party democracy'... whatever that means. ;)
It just shocks me how people immediately jump on the bandwagon to chastise him without any substantial proof just because he's a political 'enemy'.
She should make her point in a court of law - and if it turns out he did it, he should get convicted. If it turns out there's reasonable doubt that he did it, he should not be convicted and he may sue her for false accusation and/or slander.
Seeing how there seem to be neither proof nor facts supporting her claim and how she only brings it up now, her credibility is severely damaged by default. What people conveniently forget is that the burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused.
Downvote me all you want, but I think people who partake in witch hunts like that should never become a public servant and if they are, I want them to resign for clearly not understanding and/or denying the right to fair process.
Innocent until proven guilty, get it into your thick skulls and deal with it.
-2 ( +1 / -3 )
"While it is clear that the process of decline has numerous drawbacks, these are only important if the decline is fast and protracted. Smaller population size, however, has social, economic and environmental advantages." -Who's afraid of population Decline by David Coleman and Robert Rowthorn, page 20
It's a bit old, but still holds true to this day. Give the "population is falling so we're doomed"-meme a rest, will you? Not only that, but it's something the government can fix at any time if it so wanted. That nothing is done about this just reflects the insignificance of the so-called "problem". Also, immigration doesn't have that big of an effect in the long run, since it doesn't affect fertility that greatly. (since people who immigrate to a prosperous country will tend to not get as many children)
I don't see the need to needlessly inflate the population just because the ojiisan-generation (which I'm glad will be gone not far too long from now) can't grasp that having a never-ending growth in population will most likely be counter-productive. But it's not your generation that has to deal with the results of this, right ojiisan/obaasan?
You can cry "They don't want more fertility because of " but that doesn't change the fact that your cries for further overpopulating an already overpopulated island have neither basis, nor logic.
Have a good day and think again before you really want to cause more problems for the generations that come after you.
0 ( +3 / -3 )
I don't even want to imagine how this feels, seeing the person you painstakingly brought into this world becoming a criminal. This woman must be broken inside.
3 ( +4 / -1 )
I know it's hard for some to swallow, but cops can and will stop you and ask for you to identify yourself just because you're a foreigner. Only suspecting you of being an illegal gives them all the right to demand that you identify yourself and even take further action, if required.
Now, if you want to be 「the gaijin™」 and just say you won't hand it over because "muh rights and freedoms", they have every right to be angry with you as you will a) draw more suspicion upon you and b) only make their work harder just because you want to be edgy and not cooperate.
There is literally no reason to not cooperate with the cops. It's not America, it's not Britain, its NOT wherever the heck you're from - it's JAPAN. So YOU have to put up with whatever special rules apply to you and accept that you don't have the same privileges as Japanese people. Should you be unable to do so, please see yourself out and stop giving other foreigners a bad name. Thank you.
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Doesn't really matter if whether he pulls this or not... he will win regardless. Too bad there's no viable alternative.
1 ( +2 / -1 )
Lotteria a.k.a. the diarrhea lottery-yeah! (new slogan hype)
0 ( +0 / -0 )
Obviously being "humane and progressive" was more important to the EU than protecting its own people. As long as the EU stays that tolerant, more extremists will blow up in our faces.
You reap what you sow. This could have been foreseen (and it was by the so-called racists and bigots) and prevented.
I'm sick of the current Germany. I'm sick of the current EU. I'm sick of all the leftists and their white guilt.
If that makes me a racist and/or a bigot, then I will gladly accept that label.
At this point, I just want to see my family and countrymen safe. Should this safety come at the expense of people seeking asylum, then so be it.
-2 ( +0 / -2 )
Why should they be given compensation? This is as hollow as when Greece demanded compensation from Germany.
-4 ( +1 / -5 )
IMO people like that should get sterilized... or at the very least get their right to raise children revoked forever.
-2 ( +0 / -2 )
As a German who deals with refugees everyday, I can only say that I envy this decision of Japan. I wish Merkel acted on logic and not on a "we can do it" basis. If you don't have any plans on how to do it, don't accept that many.
Japan isn't being realistic in a lot of ways, but at least they make some sense in this problem.
A rare round of kudos for Japan.
14 ( +37 / -22 )
Keep the manji. Anyone with a basic education knows that the manji and the swastika symbolize two entirely different things. Much simpler and smarter to just educate people.
5 ( +5 / -0 )
Does anybody know where I can buy this masterp- I mean highly questionable and offensive book? I need to confirm its contents for my... studies. I need to brush up on my Kanji.
1 ( +1 / -0 )
Too bad this is nothing more than a gold rush now. They heard SK came through with it and now they want in on the money without understanding jack. This is just like other countries demanding compensation from Germany for its war crimes almost a decade after it happened. It just doesn't work like that.
Rape, murder, torture etc. happens in every war... so how does it entitle them to any compensation before anyone else who went through similar things? If anyone could enlighten me, be my guest.
As it stands, these women are out of touch with reality.
This is downright disrespectful to EVERY other victim.
-6 ( +2 / -8 )
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