Goldeh comments

@yoshisan88

Thanks for the reply and the article to support your point. I read it. If you do the math, I agree that's too many people to expose without some measures, but that's not what I'm saying and neither are the sources I presented. I suppose I should have been more thorough in my post. I'm not an epidemiologist, so I can only present opinions and figures others have presented. However, I believe what the epidemiologist and doctor are saying in the video and the article. Have you had a chance to watch and read yet?

They argue for utilizing physical distancing at a key moment in the outbreak, just after the peak, and not before . They also argue for strongly protecting at-risk populations while everyone else is building natural immunity by using physical distancing "surgically", not broadly. As mentioned in the article you shared, a vaccine would help under our current measures. I can't argue against that. However, a vaccine won't be available until clinical trials are completed and by the time production is complete to supply the world with one, we're looking at sometime next year. We can't maintain 70-80% physical distancing for that long (i.e., the economy).

Especially given that the current data suggests that this is not that deadly compared to a bad flu-season, and that influenza actually affects children way more than covid-19 has so far. I'm pulling this information from multiple sources, one of which is cited in the article you shared. See below if you're interested:

http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/. - The British project "In Proportion“ tracks mortality „with“ Covid19 in comparison to influenza mortality and all-cause mortality, which in Great Britain is still in the normal range or below and is currently decreasing.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/england-and-wales-mortality-during-the-covid-19-outbreak/ - See graph 2 when Covid-19 was introduced.

3.The same trends are happening in Germany, Switzerland and France - different sources found here: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

I've said this from the beginning, and I'll say it again. The only way "out" of this so to speak is HERD IMMUNITY

Kids need to be going to school.

https://youtu.be/lGC5sGdz4kg

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing.html?auth=link-dismiss-google1tap

@kwat I tried to pinpoint an answer to your query, but I found too much information. Therefore, I'll let you find what you are looking for yourself here: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

The Milan microbiologist Maria Rita Gismondo calls on the Italian government to stop communicating the daily number of „corona positives“ as these figures are „fake“ and put the population in unnecessary panic. The number of test-positives depends very much on the type and number of tests and says nothing about the state of health: https://www.secoloditalia.it/2020/03/coronavirus-la-gismondo-ammonisce-duramente-basta-snocciolare-numeri-sui-positivi-sono-dati-falsati/

An Open Letter from Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology at the Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, to the German Chancellor Dr. Angela Merkel. Professor Bhakdi calls for an urgent reassessment of the response to Covid-19 and asks the Chancellor five crucial questions. The let­ter is dated March 26: https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/

"Who verifies if the number of test-positive people is simply rising proportional to the number of tests, i.e. **stays constant in percentage terms?"**

'Who discusses the well-known problems with virus test kits in general, and the missing clinical validation of the currently used virus test kit in particular?"

"Who merely counts test-positive case and death figures without asking what these people actually fall ill with or die of?"

"Who asks how many additional, unexpected pneumonia patients there are in intensive care units, and what their age and health profile is?"

Just a few golden tidbits from the website below which, as an active member of a functioning democracy, behooves me to read each day as it is updated in addition to national media sources to thoughtfully juxtapose all angles of this. If you're "bored" at home this will keep you well informed and a lot more connected:

https://swprs.org/corona-media-propaganda/?fbclid=IwAR18uk3rqhshXclxNzFZZrCO681js6-brmBEZTU3KscUhWQkFYBIgtn3onA

Here's an example from notes for March 28: remember that poor British girl,  21-year-old Chloe Middleton, we all saw on TV? She tragically died from a heart attack, and her death was not associated with covid-19. https://archive.is/20200329015127/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/chloe-middleton-death-21-year-old-not-recorded-nhs-covid-19-related

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An excerpt taken from the 2015 Al Jazeera documentary "Digital Dissidents" spells all of this out. 5G will make it reality:

 "With the next big evolutionary step, we will face the expansion of the so-called Internet of Things. Watches, fridges, but also our clothing will be equipped with Internet connections to produce ever-increasing and ever more precise data about us. Through automation, artificial intelligence and ever perfected algorithms, machines will soon be able to predict our behavior. But what happens to a society that is consciously aware of being permanently observed, where every step, every action, leaves a trail? Our lives in a surveillance society will be reduced to simmering in a convenience hell. Conformist behavior, self-censorship and mere consumerism labeled as freedom of choice."

It's only available for rental or purchase these days, but it's produced well and very thought provoking. I recommend it. Trailer here: https://youtu.be/eo1AZZ2chUM.

What the world especially Japan) can learn from South Korea's response from the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3csythk

**If those cows could talk, I doubt they'd be telling you about how they've found a new purpose.

Yeah, but they can't talk. Nor do they have a conscious sense of purpose or preference.

Read= Welcome China to a powerful propaganda tool. The US allowed this to happen. Perhaps also getting their [the US] hands deeper into China is more advantageous than China fingering a "soft" grip on the US. Interesting chess match for sure.

Oh great. Now we will have to deal with blind-deaf people walking around looking at their smartphones where the music is blasting literally throughout their skulls. Someone develop a jamming system at crosswalks and train platforms next please. ????

Here's the background on the flawed aircraft: http://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/boeing787/