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Samit BasuToday  

It is the Japanese who need to be educated on the history of comfort women, not Spanish people.

You want the education about comfort woman?

Read this

https://twitter.com/head_bulb/status/1105470546949529600

Read this (Note: she was indicted in Korea for defamation of comfort women)

http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.com/2014/10/summary-of-professor-park-yuhas-book.html

First of all, who the hell is he to say what is offensive to people? If the statue is so offensive to you, DON'T GO LOOK AT IT, and second, the very purpose of having freedom of speech as a constitutional rights is to protect speech that isn't liked, or speech that causes offense. If we are allowed to say only things that everybody agrees with then what's the point of having freedom of speech written in the constitution? That's why it's there, to protect dissent. People will say things you don't like, you think are false, morally wrong, disgusting, you disagree with, but they are entitled to their opinion, and you have no right to take away that entitlement from them, that's the price you have to pay if you want to live in a free society, you have to learn to tolerate dissent.

Unfortunately Japan still doesn't have a culture of voluntarism. 

I am totally on the side of “freedom of speech”. Can you tell that to South Koreans?

Let’s have an exhibition in South Korea for questioning what comfort women were by Korean scholars.

Who sold these young women to Japanese soldiers?

Is this a freedom of speech in South Korean where professors were getting violence and death threat when they talk about the truth?

朴裕河教授 Park Yu-ha

安秉直教授 An Byeong-jik

李栄薫教授 Lee Young-hoon

https://twitter.com/justiceforjapan/status/1067819614954909696

The book was banned,.. she is now indicted and getting a death threat.

http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.com/2014/10/summary-of-professor-park-yuhas-book.html

Another book about Japanese girl who was raped by Koreans right after WW2 was banned in South Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove

I have been reading what Japanese people say about this.

I conclude that

The demand to call off exhibition by Mayor is right one for following reasons.

1)    The exhibition includes offensive materials such as burning image of Shouwa emperor(昭和天皇).

Search keywords such as 愛知トリエンナーレ 昭和天皇

https://images.app.goo.gl/riQYogCAUfm1uoos6

If you want to criticize Emperor, fine, do it without barbaric manner. No burning flags or individual photos.

2)    The exhibition is held by Japanese Tax payers money.

People have a right to complain for anything that uses their money.

If you want to do a performance, do with you own expense.

For god's sake, can you just forget about Korea?

Korea is the one creating issue. Japan is fine without it.

Besides, Japan is doing well with the rest of all countries, and in Asia, such as Taiwan, Thailand.

@AscissorToday 

My thought is she didn't expect a sex to get VISA from a man at all but also she was desperate sending a mix message to him like "I would do anything for VISA whatever it takes", where Yamaguchi was waiting for the right moment.

Later she did send him an e-mail which can be interpreted like "How did I do? Did I pass the test? Did you get what I asked for?", which ruined everything for her.

The thing is the court has to draw a line between the case a woman using a sex for career and a rape victim case.

Inconclusive... I would say.

Yamaguchi has already got a punishment with a social sanction, which he deserves. I would tell girls to stay away from him if I see him.

@WilliB

This is a famous quote and the digital evidence. You can search by your own from web. 

@browny1

No one knows a reality.

What makes you think you know the reality?

I merely translate what has been said among Japanese webs and twitters.

I was very surprised to know that , even now, among people here simple fact check was not done.

This case is over and both man and woman should be blamed.

The sad fact for her is, 3days after the incident which later she called a "rape", she sent an email to him as follows.

「山口さん、お疲れ様です。無事ワシントンへ戻られましたでしょうか？VISAの事でどのような対応をしていただけるのか案を教えていただけると幸いです」

"Mr. Yamaguchi, How are you doing? Were you back to DC safely? I would appreciate if you could tell me what you would do to see to it that I would get VISA (so that I can work in the US.)"

She also said she will return his T-shirt after laundry (after sexual encounter , she wore his T-shirt going home).

「Tシャツ洗ってお返ししますね」

Later, she found out that Yamaguchi is no longer in the position to give VISA to people, and she started to describe about what happened as a rape with physical abuse and all the horrible story.

Question is, if Yamaguchi had a power to give her VISA and he had given to her, would she have made the same accusation that she is making now? No one knows...

Also she told BBC that she has been a victim of sexual crime since she was a kid, which makes me wonder, then why she wasn't careful when she went to a second restaurant with Yamaguchi.

She was careless, naive, and sending a mixed message to him because she wanted VISA so badly. And vicious Yamaguchi took an advantage of that. Both are bad.

I feel sorry for those in that costume, although it is in the middle of night, it is summer and it must be hot as hell..

14 Japanese leaders convicted by an Allied tribunal as war criminals, was seen partly out of consideration of improving relations with China, with President Xi Jinping expected to visit Japan when it hosts a G20 summit.

Reuters still write stupid articles.

Yasukuni has been there long before WW2. Korean and Taiwanese were honored as well.

Toji Hideki, Yasukuni honored A-class criminal , who joined the cabinet and became Japanese prime minister after invasion to China. He has nothing to do with Nanjin incident.

The prime minister, Fumimaro Konoe, who was responsible for teaming up with Nazi and invasion of China is not honored in Yasukuni,

Japanese Left who hates Yasukuni and hates Japanese Right spreads propaganda and uses Asian people to attack Yasukuni.

https://twitter.com/justiceforjapan/status/1106454532127510528

Whenever I see "red" in a food whatever they call it "Strawberry" or "Sakura", I always check a label to search the word "コチニール(Ko chi nee ru)", English name is cochineal or "Carmine".

Please search by your own with keyword "cochineal starbucks".

Ewwwwww......

https://www.google.com/search?q=cochineal+starbucks&oq=cochineal+starbucks

@Sh1mon M4sada

Hm.. are you following this issue? This is a sequel.

This issue started when,

*Japan Times decided to describe comfort women as "women who worked in wartime brothels, including those who did so against their will.",*

The president explained that the purpose of the style change was to "enable us to report controversial issues in a fair and neutral manner," and denied that the paper had shifted its political views.

Then, some of employs leaked internal email , spreading info as if this change was made by political reasons or pressure by Right Wing distorting the truth about comfort woman, or even articles from Reuters giving an impression that PM. Abe is behind this. (You know many who just love bashing Abe.).

So the real question is whether comfort woman is sex slave or worker?

if comfort woman are just prostitutes, Japan times's change is correct and way to be fair and justice to falsely accused Japanese people. If comfort women were sex slaves forced into sex by Japanese military, calling them "worker" is wrong.

So, Who are they? comfort woman?

What is the recent updated conclusion?

https://twitter.com/head_bulb/status/1107293624092381189

Amazing,.. there are so many comments in here yet, none really talks about what the comfort woman really were, or its updated information. People just don'T care about the truth, do they?

This is the most updated version about comfort woman.

https://twitter.com/head_bulb/status/1107293624092381189

I wanna see Moomin, Mickey and Pickachu on the same stage dancing together!! .. which would be possible in China! I suppose..

In 90's Japan, it was difficult to talk about a good side of what Japan did to Korea during colonial rule.

The historical view, has to be like only black color, no gray or mixture of black and white, because of political correctness.

If you talk about even one good thing Japan did, you will be instantly label as Right wing, Uyokuu 右翼.

But today, people are smarter than 90's using smart phone, and can accept how complicated the reality was.

See the series of following tweets below showing many photos of Korea before and after under Japan rule.

See how it got modernized and ordinary people's life is getting better.

Japan spent a lot of money to invest Korea and banning barbaric habits existing Korea such as classicism, slaves and "tits exposed" woman clothes. Also they allow to teach kids both Korean and Japanese language.

https://twitter.com/bigdandy2/status/1083390842008555520

Too cute to eat!

@alwaysspeakingwisdomT

Fyi, she was there. There are plenty of photo showing her at the event

Thank you. I am relieved. I was worried. Sometimes in past, she didn't attend public ceremony and bad rumor about her had been circulating among some people.

Hmmm Masako-sama is missing in photo.. Not good... I wonder why..

I think amazon should make a drone with Kiki figure balloon on top of it, which delivers stuff.

That'll do.

There is no official document or orders that Japanese government issued to kidnap and force woman for sex slave.

(There were individual cases where some military officers committed crime just like US in Okinawa militants committed crime.)

Comfort woman was paid job as advertisement shows. Some comfort women made a lot of money. Unfortunately, some women were kidnapped, deceived, or sold by Korean/Japanese BROKERS or Korean PARENTS who provided girls to Japanese military to make money. Japan apologized for not returning these poor women giving up the money Japanese military already paid.( I think US military should apology for that too.)

In fact, Japanese authorities were trying hard to help Korean girls.

In 1938 alone, Japanese police in Korea under Japan rule arrested 1709 criminals kidnapping or human trafficking and 1699 of them were KOREANS!

https://twitter.com/yukin_done/status/794841271076425728

See the list of newspaper articles about Japanese police arresting bad Korean brokers human trafficking Korean girls. (this was posted by Korean person)

http://www.ilbe.com/7278572520

I would say, Good Job Japan saving Korean girls!!

Finally, the Japanese officials ordered the issue about recruiting comfort woman.

Summary is, "There has been report about the case getting into trouble with police in recruiting comfort woman and damaging reputation of Japanese Imperial military, so recruit them more carefully and appropriately"

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%BB%8D%E6%85%B0%E5%AE%89%E6%89%80%E5%BE%93%E6%A5%AD%E5%A9%A6%E7%AD%89%E5%8B%9F%E9%9B%86%E3%81%AB%E9%96%A2%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E4%BB%B6

So that is the truth and should be on text book in Korea and Japan as well. Japan apologized and paid compensation. I hope Korean do the same to Vietnam people, Lai Dai Han as well.

More detail

Comfort woman based on documents and research by scholars.

http://nadesiko-action.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Comfort-Women-Not-Sex-Slaves_FINAL_annex.pdf

@SJ

Just one sentence of sincere apology from the Japanese king, who officially represents Japan as the head of the state, will solve those problems persisted more than 70 years all at once. Why is it so difficult? It does not require even 1 yen.

Have you done any research?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is a list of apologies about comfort woman by Japan from 1990s to 2010s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Go to the site and try keyword "comfort".

January 1, 1992: Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa, in a press conference, said: "Concerning the comfort women, I apologize from the bottom of my heart and feel remorse for those people who suffered indescribable hardships".

January 17, 1992: Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa, at a policy speech on a visit to South Korea, said:. "What we should not forget about relationship between our nation and your nation is a fact that there was a certain period in the thousands of years of our company when we were the victimizer and you were the victim. I would like to once again express a heartfelt remorse and apology for the unbearable suffering and sorrow that you experienced during this period because of our nation's act." Recently the issue of the so-called 'wartime comfort women' is being brought up. I think that incidents like this are seriously heartbreaking, and I am truly sorry".[16]

July 6, 1992. Chief Cabinet Secretary Koichi Kato said: "" (Statement by Chief Cabinet Secretary Koichi Kato on the Issue of the so-called "Wartime Comfort Women" from the Korean Peninsula).[17]

August 4, 1993: Chief Cabinet Secretary Yōhei Kōno said: "Undeniably, this was an act, with the involvement of the military authorities of the day, that severely injured the honor and dignity of many women. The Government of Japan would like to take this opportunity once again to extend its sincere apologies and remorse to all those, irrespective of place of origin, who suffered immeasurable pain and incurable physical and psychological wounds as comfort women" (Statement by the Chief Cabinet Secretary Yohei Kono on the result of the study on the issue of "comfort women"),[18]

August 31, 1994: Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama said 

July 1995: Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama said in a statement:

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2001: Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi 

March 1, 2007: Prime Minister Shinzō Abe 

December 28, 2015: Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida 

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too much to paste!!!

I have been searching webs about Kim Bok-dong, and found many Japanese websites say her testimony is contradictory and not reliable.

I don't even know when she was born...

WIkipedia says

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Bok-dong#cite_note-:0-3

She was born in 19 April 1926. From age 14, she was kept in comfort stations for eight years across different countries in Asia.

1926+14=1940

So she was doing sex slave from 1940 to 1948 ?

But war2 ended at 1945.. WHat am I missing??

Paris on 20th September in 2013, Kim said,

she had suffered during the Korean War 

by the Japanese military.

https://arsmaki.exblog.jp/19926244/

Was she talking about sex slave for US military?

It mus be my work.... I feel dizzy,..

For instance, an Australian-Japanese organization that protests comfort women statues, saying the monuments feed anti-Japanese sentiment, along with Kent Gilbert, a well-known conservative commentator and lawyer who has worked in Japan for decades, petitioned Asahi Shimbun last year to remove "forced" from its description of comfort women.

This is a right action.

As we have seen in MAGAA-Hat Kids issue,

Never assume anything or believe what journals say at first.

It takes long to boil down to the truth.

As for comfort woman issue,

The truth is

http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.com/2014/10/summary-of-professor-park-yuhas-book.html

And she was indicted and her book was banned in Korea and now she is getting death threat.

http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2017/11/22/park-yuha-and-the-uncomfortable-realities-of-south-korean-democracy/

You should buy and read her book, it is excellent and has a very FAIR view.

The truth is

There were comfort women serving US soliders after war, bu t they never get any compensation or apology from US government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jlfAqR8uBc&t=83s

These are the things you NEVER get to see on TV.

Truth is always biased by political correctness.

I would like to hear what authors of this article,Mari Saito and Ami Miyazaki, have to say about these things I mentioned.

SJ　 11:40 am JST

The present could not exist without the past. This kind of historic distort is not just confined to the WWII. Let me say one example.

Did Korea apologize and pay compensation to Vietnam people for massacre officially as Japan did to neighbor countries? Korean government said President Moon statement on his visit to Vietnam in 2018 was not an apology.

Does Mongolian school teach damages to Korean people on Mongol empire invasion to Korea?

expatToday  02:47 pm JST

I cannot recall ever reading of even a single instance of Korea invading Japan in the past 5,000 years.

There is no major invasion or colonization. But small one yes.

(1) Syngman Rhee Line attacking fisherman ships.

(2) Disputed island, Dokdo/Takeshima. When you claim right for a disputed area , you do that but at least leave it there to pay a respect to other, and you wouldn't put your stuff there obvious way.

Korean built a base there.

Japan is mature and let Korea do as it wishes and trying to avoid conflict.

SJ Today  06:37 am JST

Opinion of Japanese legal experts on this matter:

http://justice.skr.jp/estatement.html (Enlgish)

http://justice.skr.jp/statement.html (Japanese)

Korean should not listen to their advice because

these Japanese lawyers are idiot.

Why? They say this is about human right issue.

So, I asked them, "Oh, aren't you forgetting the statement made by Japanese lawyers back in 1953 about Japanese fishermen victims in Syngman Rhee Line ? "

There was no answer....

Bottom line is on 1965 treaty, both side mutually waived rights to blame other countries.

李ライン問題に関する日本漁民拉致に対し韓国の反省を求める件（宣言）

https://www.nichibenren.or.jp/activity/document/civil_liberties/year/1953/1953_3.html

Currently I am looking for English version of this statement.

================================================

Syngman Rhee Line

Rhee administration drew a border over sea on their own without any consent with Japan, and those fisherman ships near border were attacked. From 1952 to 1965, 3929 Japanese people were captured, of whom 44 were killed,. No compensation or apology was made by Korean government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngman_Rhee_Line

SJ;

Even the former Japanese government official in charge of this matter acknowledged the individual claim rights.

Yes, individuals have right to claim, so Korean individuals should claim to their own government as they sued in 2018.

Korean government is responsible for compensating their own people and so Japan is.

Before 1965, more than 3000 Japanese fishermen were attacked and captured by Koreans and some died . But JAPAN PAID compensation to victims because of agreement in 1965.

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1965

The reparations agreement signed along with the 1965 treaty clearly states that the issues of asset ownership and the right to seek compensation were resolved "completely and finally" with Japan offering economic assistance to South Korea.

2005

the administration of former President Roh Moo-hyun concluded in 2005 that compensation for forced laborers was included as "settlement money" in the 300 million dollars Tokyo paid to Seoul based on the reparations agreement. The South Korean government has compensated those workers.

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20181031/p2a/00m/0na/012000c

DONE!

2018

Korean group of 1,103 former forced laborers and their families said it had filed a lawsuit demanding the South Korean government provide 100 million won ($88,500) to each of them in compensation because it had received funds from Japan.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-forcedlabour-southkorea/thousand-koreans-sue-government-over-wartime-labor-at-japan-firms-idUSKCN1OJ0F7

1965

The reparations agreement signed along with the 1965 treaty clearly states that the issues of asset ownership and the right to seek compensation were resolved "completely and finally" with Japan offering economic assistance to South Korea.

2005

the administration of former President Roh Moo-hyun concluded in 2005 that compensation for forced laborers was included as "settlement money" in the 300 million dollars Tokyo paid to Seoul based on the reparations agreement. The South Korean government has compensated those workers.

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20181031/p2a/00m/0na/012000c

DONE!

Korean group of 1,103 former forced laborers and their families said it had filed a lawsuit demanding the South Korean government provide 100 million won ($88,500) to each of them in compensation because it had received funds from Japan.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-forcedlabour-southkorea/thousand-koreans-sue-government-over-wartime-labor-at-japan-firms-idUSKCN1OJ0F7

GOOD!! Go for it!

Bye Bye Korea!

Don't bother Japan on this issue again!

May peace prevail :)

@Samit Basu

I don't think Japan side consider this video as a primary evidence of being locked by radar.

This just shows a dialog and what Japan side went through.

According to this source, on the second radar detection,

https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2018122800708&g=pol

哨戒機(Japan airplain)は無線(contact with wireless)で駆逐艦(to Korean ship)に向け、英語(in English)で

「貴艦の火器管制レーダーがわれわれを指向したことを確認した。

(We confirmed you target us with radar.)

貴艦の行動の目的は何ですか

(what's your purpose of doing this?)」

と３回呼び掛けたが(Japan asked three times)、

応答がなかった。(No responce from Korea)

Why?

[1 ] ---------

Is this true? if so,, it is terrible.

Twitter:

"A South Korean defense analyst was banned on TV after he said SK Defense Ministry is teaching soldiers that Japan, not North Korea, is the main enemy.

Then this locking of radar on Japanese aircraft happens.

What's the #MoonJaein admin doing?"

https://twitter.com/DrTaraO/status/1076313050397855744

[2] ---------

Also I want to add that Moon administration proposed the law which prohibits distorting history or glorify Japanese colonial rule and penalty is max 2years prison.

I think this censorship is very dangerous.

I remember old Korean guy who said life under Jpn rule was better than now was beaten up. You know, history has different perspectives and different things happened, could never be painted with a single color.

[3] ---------

Radar Target was locked.

I am wondering .

Do you think J air plains had a right to shoot Korean ship for self defense reason??

Because crew on J air plain could have thought that they would be shot down...

This is terrible. I heard that she died. I hope this crazy guy's name appears on media and he gets maximum penalty.

Putins popularity in Japan is partially because of this.

https://youtu.be/RPvP1iin5fc

Over Twitter, people say that at Normandy ceremony, at the moment Atomic was dropped, Obama clapping hands together with crowd, while all European guests remained silent. Putin even made the sign of cross and prayed for victims.

I don’t know if this is what really happened, but people on Twitter believed it.

Did you know that person was protesting Hideki Tojo for Nanking Massacre that happend in 1937?

That was NOT when Hideki Tojoi was in administration!!

That was when it is Fumimaro Konoe administration who is NOT honored at Yasukuni!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumimaro_Konoe

He was protesting Wrong Person at Wrong Place!!