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Tom Hanks, . . . . again?

I saw him in 'Sully' at the weekend, both he and it were excellent.

Earthquakes are primarily caused by the movement of plate techtonics whereas volcanoes are caused by the build up of Magna and whilst some earthquakes are caused by magma (and are very localised) a volcanic eruption does not signify a major earthquake is imminent

Well this IS interesting. I read on here numerous times that radiation wouldn't dilute and it would continue to get worse and worse.

The only natural conclusion is that these scientists must surely be in the pay of TEPCO. Because the alternative, that the potential risks of this disaster were blown out of all proportion, just isn't worth thinking about.

I mean, who do these scientists think they are?

This would be the public who democratically elected the LDP? Who very clearly stated in their election manifesto that they would be turning the reactors on.

The public had a very clear opportunity and they chose to elect them.

It's bizarre to claim they are being held hostage when they elected them.

Really... so the advisers to both the British and American governments (ESPECIALLY the American governments) who ran multiple worst case scenarios came to the conclusion that even under the worst case scenario that Tokyo would have been fine. Even in the worst possible scenario.

@Tony 'Just what the "Remain" campaign needed. Now watch all the latest polls switch in favor of "remain".'

Nick Griffin said the same. I'd rather shoot myself in the rectum than agree with anything that loathsome individual had to say.

This news is a tragedy. It's a tragedy for her family. But also a tragedy for decent people who believe in democracy. No one should be scoring political points today. And no one should be speaking about politics.

Trump urges ban on immigration from countries with 'history of terrorism'

How far back does he want to go? Will all Irish need to leave Boston and New York?

As Laguna said

The July 7 bombings in the UK killed 52 people. They spent months preparing. Some flew to the Middle East for training. Four guys got on public transport during the rush hour and detonated four suicide bombs.

In the US one person. One single guy walked into a club with a gun and killed 50 people and injured 53 more. No effort. No training. No planning. Not a complicated network of links across the globe. Just a man over 18 years old who is legally allowed to buy guns.

But guns aren't the problems. The foreigners and their funny religions are.

An American dies every sixteen minutes from gun violence. But it's not the guns that are the problem.

This is the 15th time that Obama has had to address the nation after a mass shooting.

Since sandyhook where 20 children and 6 adults were killed there have been NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY EIGHT mass shootings where more than four people have been killed.

NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY EIGHT

and yet people still say that guns aren't the problem.

Tens of thousands of Americans are killed every year. But guns aren't the problem.

How many thousands more innocent people need to die before the majority of people start realising that guns ARE the problem.

Trump was right?

Only if Trump said that the US should ban assault rifles. This was a very avoidable tragedy. Another avoidable tragedy.

Jeff

You may actually want to read the full questions that the jury had to answer

. Defects in Hillsborough stadium: Were there any features of its design, construction and layout which were dangerous or defective and which probably or may have caused or contributed to the disaster?

Jury's answer: Yes

"The design and layout of the crush barriers in P 3 and 4 were not fully compliant with the green guide. "The removal of barrier 144 and the partial removal of barrier 136 would have exacerbated the waterfall effect of pressure towards the front of the pens. "The lack of dedicated turnstiles for individual pens meant that capacities could not be monitored. "There were too few turnstiles for a capacity crowd. "Signage to the side pens was inadequate".

Licensing and oversight of the stadium: Was there any error or omission in the safety certification and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium that caused or contributed to the disaster?

Jury's answer: Yes

"The safety certificate was never amended to reflect changes to the Leppings Lane end of the stadium. Therefore capacity figures were not updated".

Conduct of Sheffield Wednesday FC before the day of the match: Was there any error or omission by SWFC and its staff in the management of the stadium and/or preparation for the semi final match on 15 April 1989 which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation which developed on the day of the match? Jury's answer: Yes

"The club did not approve the plans for dedicated turnstiles for each pen. "The club did not agree any contingency plans with the police. "There was inadequate signage and inadequate and misleading information on the tickets".

However the blame, a large portion of the blame is at the conduct of South Yorkshire police for the way they not only handled the disaster but the way that senior officers began a cover up and one that continued until this week.

Senior offices claimed that fans urinated on the police and stole from the dead. This was simply untrue and was designed to shift the blame. It's an utter disgrace and those still living deserve everything that's coming to them for the pain and suffering that they forced the families to endure.

Jeff, it was a differentry time and a different world. All grounds had fences like that to stop 'fans' from running on the pitch and fighting the opposition fans. The unfortunate fact of Hillsborough was that the tunnel meant that when there was a push they all had no option but to go into the pens in front. The designers have come in for criticism but it was the police who have rightly come in for the most criticism. They only focused on preventing trouble. Whilst the fans and stewards were frantically pulling fans from the Leppings Lane end, while they were ripping up advertising hoardings to act as makeshift stretchers there was a line of police stood on the halfway line to prevent the Liverpool fans charging the Forest ones. There were individual police officers crying out for direction from those I'm charge and got none. They asked for a delay to kick off. They were refused. They asked to open the gates. They were refused and then, once the scale of the tragedy unfolded the senior offices began the lies. That Liverpool fans had stormed the gates, that they'd urinated on police offices, that they'd stolen from the dead.

None of those were true but they all came from the police. The very people whose job it was to protect.

Mistakes were made in the design, the planning of the day etc but the arrogance of Duckenfield and the subsequent cover up are the reasons why the police have come in for the most criticism and justifiably so.

Twenty Seven years to get the answers that they and the vast majority of football fans were hoping for. The cover up started before some of the fans had even drawn their last breath with the police chief at the time claiming the Liverpool fans had forced the gate open. It was known to be a lie in 1989. It was covered in depth in David Conn's excellent book the football business in 1998 and it's nothing short of a national disgrace that it has taken this long to finally get the answers that we all knew.

Just to put that National Geographic report into context. We drove through Rikuzentakata in April and May 2011. We drove past signs that said 'expected tsunami inundation area end'. These signs would have been positioned based on historical information, based on what the absolute worst case scenario would be. The devastation reached there and continued on for hundreds of metres more.

If I remember rightly, the tsunami reached 4-5 km in land.

So whilst a large tsunami had happened previously the one in March 2011 caught everyone by surprise because of the sheer size of it.

Wouldn’t it be lovely if there was just one big magic wand that would allow everything to get back to normal. But sadly there isn’t.

Natural disasters are incredibly hard for the victims, and there’s nothing that feels natural about them. But it’s not going to get solved overnight. It takes time to implement plans and even though there are parts of the SDF that spend their entire military career working on disaster relief these plans can not be rolled out immediately to ensure that everyone has everything.

From these articles everybody has water. Everybody has some food. They are delivering the basic essentials in the immediate response. They will subsequently start delivering better food. Once the infrastructure has been repaired to a point that they can get deliveries in at the volume needed. It is not something that is ever going to happen overnight and the expectations should be managed. I remember the joy of people’s faces when we were dropping off carrots in May 2011 which had suddenly become a luxury item.

With the exception of the car park which isn’t an emergency shelter (we all know that bureaucracy in Japan struggles with things which are outside of the norm) where there have been no supplies delivered, the government is delivering exactly what is expected. Enough to survive on.

It’s easy to be frustrated from a far by the perceived lack of progress but I can guarantee that whichever country you’re from, your own government is not going to be flying in helicopter after helicopter to provide supplies when there is already the basic amount. The response to Katrina is a good example of that.

For those of you who don't believe that the nuclear plants haven't been damaged and that theres a cover up. Can you explain why there's no increase of radiation in the area.

Landslides? Yeah that would be a feat of nature for a landslide to travel the distance it would need to to hitthe nuclear power plants. But I know that JT contributors like to focus on the impossible.

Yes, onagawa was built correctly..was.maintained correctly and survived a 9.1 quake totally unscathed. Apparently that's a fluke. Apparent you seem to believe the norm is an accident. Do you feel the same when you get in a plane? Or a car? Or cross the road? I just wonder where you draw the line on when something goes wrong that automatically becomes the norm and not the exception.

Reckless

I'm going to assume that you weren't in Japan in March 2011. Within 72 hours there were 200000 SDF troops on the ground as well as the American military whose immediate offer of help was accepted. The SDF were responsible for finding bodies, assisting in infrastructure repairs as well as managing the supply chain of supplies. Within that initial period of the disaster I don't see whst else could have been done.

Criticize Kobe. Criticize the fact that people are still in shelters nut don't criticize the government of the time's initial response to a disaster that covered a coast line that was about the same size as the south coast of England.

I thought it was the JSDF and others working their butt off out there.

I hadn't realised that the SDF was a stand alone independent organisation... and not related to the government...

Criticise Abe and the government all you like but let's be realistic about what their roles are.

SimondB.. care to explain how sakurajima will cause a nuclear accident

Smith....changed your tune from Saturday?

But yes, let's turn off an energy supply now..despite there being no scientific risk...we will make it harder for people by reducing the power in the region.

A magnitude 7+ and the reactors continued? Yes, exactly as they were supposed to.

But none of that is relevant to you lot. Nuclear is bad . And that's all that matters and no logic nor scientific facts will change that... I mean Onagawa was just a fluke wasnt it? And it's just pure luck that this one had no damage.

http://www.post.japanpost.jp/notification/productinformation/2016/0415_02_en.html

Keep following the news as the situation will change....

This page as continual updates on the situation in English

https://m.facebook.com/Kumamotoi/

Food/water/ baby stuff/toothbrushes are in short supply now. In a couple of days it'll be condiments to make the food nicer and then it will be stuff to relieve boredom etc

If you want to donate cash to help the people now (not in a months time) look at the smaller groups that are on the ground not your larger NPOs

So fat thr requests have been for food, water, nappies etc... no requests for clothes but that may change..it's different to Tohoku because of scale but also because houses havent been washed away so therefore a high percentage of those who have had to leave their houses may be allowed back to collect items (supposition )

I read somewhere (and can't find it that certain companies are not accepting deliveries to the region at this time because of problems with infrastructure etc) however there are a couple of direct npos that have already sprung up and seem to be legitimate

They probably have a better and more efficient logistics and distribution network than the SDF.

In Tohoku the SDF were camped in Yamato/takyubins offices. The general location for aid deliveries were in these locations. They are very aware of the distribution networks and who has the best ones....slightly naiive to think otherwise.

The rain is a worry as Kyushu always seems to suffer more tha m it's fair share of landslides. Hopefully the weather wont escalate what is already a dreadful situation any further.

sigh

At no point did I plug nuclear power. Disillusioned, again, questioned as to why japan has nuclear power he said that if the plant had been closer to the earthquake the results could have been different. I responded to that point by giving an example of to dispute that. Using a fact. You seem to think that those facts are actually plugging nuclear power. Whereas I use them simply as that, as facts. At university we were taught to provide facts with our statements. Perhaps the requiremen's for a science degree are differnet in the US to the UK but when I did my environmental geography degree we needed to produce facts in response.

You say that it shouldnt be used as either pro.or anti yet you feel the need to target me as usual because I am pro. Yet don't feel the need to either confirm the power cuts post 2011 or question the relevance as to what nuclear power has to do with an earthquake that has killed tens and left hundreds or thousands homeless.

Surely if people are valid in bringing it up then people are equally valid in responding to it.

Prior to my 'alleged plug' you would note that I'd already said that the plant suffered no damage and didn't need shutting down.

I know you're anti nuclear but I do find your constant claims about me to be tiresome... still waiting for you to show me where I've defended Tepco.

Smith...follow the conversation I was responding to two previous posters. Bother of whom's first comment on the subject was anti nuclear and ignoring.

But yes this topic has nothing to do with nuclear and we should focus on the tragic loss of live as well as those that have lost everything.

Onagawa was closer to the Tohoku epicenter. Substantially stronger earthquake and closer. And it also suffered no damage.

Perhaps it's time to remember that more people have died in the last 61 hours from earthquakes than have died in the last 61 months from nuclear.

Citizen 2012

There were plenty of power outages post earthquake. And secondly when there is no damage to the nuclear plants there's no need to turn them off.

Good luck bass for you and your family

Let's hope thats it for the big aftershocks and it settles down a lot more now. Stay safe for those of you in the area and the rest of you...probably a good idea to check your earthquake kit is fully stocked with fresh water, candles, batteries etc

Lovely to hear some good news but be careful of the aftershocks everyone in the area. Stay safe and make sure you've got supplies to keep you going for a couple of days