Sam.....at the onset of the disease in late winter, it was mainly slamming older folks in rest homes in the US. Now that it has entered the general population to a greater extent than 4-5 months ago, it's not going to have as high a death rate. Still, many of those who recover from severe symptoms do so with health issues that will debilitate them for years and some will require medical care throughout their lifetimes. That's not doomsaying, it's reality for many people.
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Blacklabel...I like your child-like fall back position when you lose an argument..."no, your excuses and reasons are irrelevant".....You use the word "reckless" to describe the protester and try to describe the summer beach parties as a small family BBQ...image conjuring wizard you are. The beach parties and BBQs and anti^mask protests (especially in Huntington Beach CA) were not small family gatherings. Additionally, your above demography information neglects (not entirely your fault as you are just reporting some stats that you believe to be relevant...can't fault you for not understanding proper stat analysis, it's not easy) regional density (think of it as DC is more compact than Arizona...increased interconnectivity = increased exposure chance) among other reasons.
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Blacklabel...sure...the protests were not a good idea, but ask what led to the protests (endless systemic oppression and police brutality). Now, ask yourself what led to people needing to go to the bar the BBQ, etc....(hint: not endless systemic oppression and police brutality). Sad that this needed to be explained to you. Result may be the same (more spread of COVID), but the reasons for the two are completely different....you understand this , right? Right?
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Blacklabel....science just clearly isn't your strong suit........it takes much less than 34 minutes for the person standing next to you at a bar, at the beach, at a BBQ, at a protest, etc., to send the virus your way. You can claim that you are young and free of factors that influence the severity of symptoms (I assume that means you know which variant of the APOE allele you have), and therefore are safe from the debilitating effects....and you may be wrong. Being wrong and selfish about this can cause others to suffer and die.
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More than likely, many colleges will arrange things do that each foreign student can “attend” at least one course in a classroom setting.
The US used to do it’s best to attract the best and the brightest from the world.
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The whole reason to wear a mask, a seat belt, press the brakes, get vaccinated, is to avoid a preventable disease (Covid is largely preventable if you wear a mask, avoid crowds, etc, etc) or an accident. That survivorship.
You stated "Living your life is a human right"...interesting concept, since this is not something that we have much control over. Our genes, disease and unexpected misfortune set the table here. However, under the current set of conditions, wearing a mask might help one attain that "living" you feel you have a right to, so I'm not sure what you're really trying to argue here.
Driving a car isn't human right. Living your life is, and therefore, living it without interference is a human right.
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You're not using the concept of false equivalency properly. A mask and using a seat belt or the brakes for that matter are both contained in the idea of overlapping measures to increase survivability. Same as with airplane systems, which are over-designed. Distancing and masks aim to keep the number of people who get the virus to a low level so as to 1) not over-burden the hospitals so that all resources are being dedicated to only Covid patients, and 2) reduce the number of factories (our bodies) that the virus has a chance to mutate within.
Maybe the death rate isn't high enough for a segment of the population to be concerned more, or the most susceptible group of people isn't important enough for that segment of the population to be concerned more.
Comparing wearing a mask just to live your life, as wearing a seat belt when using a car, which isn't really necessary to survive, is nothing more than a false equivalency
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If you can be 100% certain that only you and your immediate family are put at risk of contracting Covid and suffering from it, then by all means, go maskless...don't place yourself over others and put others at risk based on your decision to not wear a mask.
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You're being sarcastic, right?
otherwise known as "interfering in an election".
Ruin their data mining operation and turn the data sets to junk!
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good event for the first one back.
So Trump is just "out of shape", as demonstrated by his inability to walk down a ramp and drink from a bottle.
More than likely, even most of his supporters realized that attending this ego rally was dangerous.
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liberals werent concerned about the virus at all during any rioting and looting.
no reason to concern yourself over it now. Trump 2020.
And the cops weren't concerned about the virus when they were perched on Floyd's neck.
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Wolfpack....what are these controlled circumstances given "that he (Trump) believes empty seats are bad optics"?
Also, protests and the unfortunate rioting that often accompanies them are a response to violence perpetrated upon a community (people feel that it's worth the infection risk to make others notice a critically important social issue) and are not comparable to a political rally.
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Kinda surprised that Avenger even got others to agree with his anti-Semitic rant and white power-backed link. Could this be likes from the usual Trump supporters here or just his sock puppets.
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In the 1800s the Democrats were a pro slavery party.
Do we explain the history of what the 1860s Democrats stood for compared to the present day Democrats again? You know better than that.
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Serrano...."sectioned" means placed in a psychiatric hospital based on a section of the mental health act. It's British English. Often referred to as a 5150 in parts of the US.
What did you think he meant? Something more Caesarean?
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Seems to be a lot of authoritarians when it's "someone else who is doing something they don't like" who suddenly become libertarian when it's "their unalienable right". Unless you grew up in a community that routinely experiences what the police have to offer, you don't know and you should realize that you are fortunate.
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Just testing for the presence of COVID doesn't help in addressing what cases will become severe and what cases will be more mild. Recent study from UConn and others suggests that a specific genotype (APOE E4) can predict whether a COVID positive patient will develop severe symptoms that have a higher chance of requiring hospitalization. The results were robust regardless of the presence of co-morbidities.
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If you feel that the response to this pandemic which is backed by most medical practitioners, scientists, etc., has created economic hardships that are so serious that the economic impacts appear to be far more deadly than the disease itself, shouldn’t you change the economic system and manners in which business is conducted, not the response to the disease which has been effective in stemming the disease?
Basically, you are condemning people to die from a preventable disease so that others are not affected by rigidly sticking to the status quo, which for many is an engineered and designed poverty.
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Blacklabel...plenty of science articles that are from legit sources (not mass media) for you to read and eventually understand what this virus is. Go ahead, look at the Medrx preprint site which will show you how much is still unknown about this virus. Once you wrap your head around that, you'll see what is guiding Fauci and most other doctors, scientists, etc.
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Ok blacklabel.... do us a favor and put a number up regarding how many covid-19 deaths would be unacceptable to you. No need to preface it with an explanation or five off into a “what is a Covid death really” deflection, just a number that is your personal “The disease is worse”.
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”the other day, a poll.....”
Equivalent to “studies show...”. Try again.
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If the "deaths by (fill in the blank)" are scaled by time, then Covid-19 (2 months) seems pretty bad compared to seasonal influenza (October -April), Vietnam (20 years), car crash fatalities (38,000), suicides (48,300 in 2018), etc....so try to think of it in terms of how fast Covid-19 killed so many people.
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But the daily focus on the running death count has nothing to do with the election, liberals say.
"If an American President loses more Americans over the course 6 weeks than died in the entirety of the Vietnam War, does he deserve to be re-elected?"
Meanwhile the article states nothing about the election, so why are you bringing it up? The comparison is just to put it in perspective. The age of the deceased has nothing to do with it. Seems like you are using the deceased in the same way you claim the "liberals" are.
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Richard Gallagher...you are absolutely correct...it appears that they are trying to treat ARDS when the symptoms have not presented as such (yet....or ever), so the ventillators may be causing more damage.
Found the above article also in Japanese, so the local medical community definitely knows that this could be a problem.
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I notice that all the "talents" who comment on Tokyo-based Japanese TV variety shows seem to be ignoring Koike's Stay Home order.
As long as those teenagers with funny hairdos on TV openly defy Stay Home, I will too.
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A substantial portion of the population going out and resuming their non-essential to society jobs (hair cuts are not essential) only will increase the number of patients. Given that they are finding that the virus has mutated into more virulent strains (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12326324), why do you want to give this thing more available targets than it already has?
We've been seeing vaccine-escape mutants popping up for measles for sometime (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/av/2014/205617/) now and it's obvious that limiting the number of potential "factories" for the virus to propagate and mutate within is important. This only complicates the development of an effective vaccine.
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While the wet markets are disgusting, there is evidence to indicate that they were directly responsible for the existence of Covid-19. There is evidence that a recombination event between a pangolin coronavirus and a bat coronavirus is what "created" the present Covid-19. This could have happened anywhere where a bat could meet up with a pangolin and a third species (probably human) was in the vicinity.
Evidence of recombination in coronaviruses implicating pangolin origins of nCoV-2019
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strange it’s supposedly trumps fault totally for not shutting down the entire USA last November or something. He could have shut it all down- Orangemanbad. but now he supposedly has no power to open it all back up?
Only thing trump did was ban foreign nationals from entering the US if they were in China within the prior two weeks at the end of January.... he did nothing else until March, after spending all of February ignoring what was happening in China and elsewhere, ignoring his advisers, and twittering about other stuff. Could have been proactive, but no....another failure of Trump which you cannot explain away.
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