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The fact that Nissan announced this THE DAY BEFORE THEY WERE TO RELEASE THEIR EARNING REPORT says volumes, now doesn’t it?

Since the US is one of two countries that Japan has an extradition treaty with the prosecutors will just ask the the US to extradite them. They won’t ask Interpol for a red notice, especially after being embarrassed at the way it worked out with the Carole Ghosn. It must have really hurt to be told no.

@showchinmono

Ghosn's lawyers already asked the prosecutors the reason Saikawa had not been charged similarly in summer last year. They must know why and just don't refer to it

I think everyone knows why,

This is Japan

Woman arrested for stabbing boyfriend in restaurant

Headline could be better. Makes it sound like it was a poor choice of location that got her arrested.

Another rich criminal evades justice.

Saikawa?

Funniest thing I've read this year, ROTFL...BAWAWAWAHAHA....challenge the system whikst hidling in a box...

The very fact that both the Prosecutors and MoJ stayed up to give rushed statements in the middle of the night shows how much Ghosn is rattling the system and also how they are reacting mostly to their loss of face. Reactions such as your also point to the real issue of how much the egg hurts.

I’m sure this story isn’t over yet and they’re be plenty more of the egg flying around. We can only hope it brings some positive change!

@ Peeping_Tom

It was already pointed out that the protester’s sign is dated 17 October. This was the date civil protests started in Lebanon brought by planned taxes on gasoline, tobacco and internet phone calls. On 17 October this had nothing to due with Ghosn skipping bail and flying to Lebanon.

@Omachi

"I won't settle in one place. I will travel all over the world. I cannot conceive of spending all my time in just one country,"

Ah, but he will now, with Lebanon being the one country without an extradition treaty with Japan.  

Lebanon being the one? country??

A bit of research before speaking goes a long way.

Actually he should be able to travel very freely since only the US and South Korea actually have extradition treaties with Japan for he has been accused of...

This is not sexist nor a politically correct point to make.

Absolutely sexist. What about differently gendered plugs and sockets?

What about bidirectional cables

...there will NEVER EVER be another CEO who is not Japanese.

The way Nissan is going there may never be ANY CEO again soon.

From the NYTimes...

In a translated court filing reviewed by The New York Times, prosecutors argued that Mrs. Ghosn should not be allowed to meet with her husband because she had disparaged the Japanese legal system. 

This is revenge instigated by the prosecutors, pure and simple.

No it's Carlos, and he's innocent, it's the japanese judiciary system that is flawed say the "experts" posting comments...hahaha!

@Patrick Corsi

If you had been following this on JT I think you would have found that the two have become somewhat exclusive with most only hoping Ghosn gets s fair trail and the "system" is improved.

Ghosn has been accused of wrong doing and we've all see the same leaks BUT it should be up to a fair court to decide guilt, and until then he is considered innocent,

On the other hand the unfairness and mideaval practices of the prosecutors in our so called Japanese "justice" system are evident.

Ghosn may be guilty, as the prosecutors say, or innocent as he says, and that will (hopefully) come out in trail. One can only hope that this trail brings enough shame and pressure on our justice system that it can be changed and drug screaming into this century!

All her cavorting will backfire.

@semperfi

That is certainly what the prosecutors are praying happens. They certainly feel uncomfortable when they can't control their trail by media smear.

Whether it has any effect on the trail is not as important as what it might do to bring pressure on repairing the badly damaged Japanese injustice system!

Ghose may be guilty or he may be innocent, that should be addressed in a fair trail. The way the prosecutors leak information to their advantage is disgusting though and I hope Carole matches them step for step!

Notice how all of the articles about this say something about the bail terms banning Carlos from talking to those related to the charges but that Carole is under no such ban?

What the Prosecutors don't point out in their "leak" is that they suspect that she may have talked to someone linked to the recent accusation and not anything or anyone connected to ANY of the indictments against Ghosn for which he received bail, and that she would not have broken any bail terms even if she had been included in her husbands bail terms.

This media smear campaign that prosecutors use to convict a person before trail, and it's not only in Ghosn's case, has to be illegal. The "source close to the matter" is obviously used as the English translation of 検察官.

Boy but do they sure get pissed when the other side tries to counter their smear campaign with their own media releases.

This case just gets stranger by the day and the frustration of the prosecutors when Ghosn didn't "confess", make a couple deep bows, accept his slap on the wrist. They wouldn't be losing so much face and a merger would sidelined. Now their finding out Renault STILL want the merger, and they've dug themselves in a hole so deep they'll never get out. The only good that may come is some small improvement in the medieval justice system.

@tinawatanabe

A link please -- or it didn't happen

@semperfi

i Carole Ghosn was under no legal restriction to not leave Japan and it has nothing to do with Carlos.

ii I notice you emphasized "which he assumed would not come to light" but, in reality this is just your opinion.

AND his new Twitter account didn't violate his parole and even if it was a "make my day" tweet, certainly wasn't illegal.

The good that will hopefully come from Ghosn's fighting attitude is to bring a stronger spotlight on Japan's "injustice" system and, again hopefully, enough shame that steps are taken to cause some correction!

One shareholder said Nissan's entire management should resign immediately. 

This!

@kenji. It is legal to make moves in business to change business plans. Not sure about Saikawa, but to my knowledge he is not in prison facing trial for multi million dollar theft.

@ Goodlucktoyou

You're 100% correct when you say Saikawa, or for that matter anyone at Nissan other than Ghosn, is not facing trail or even accused of a crime. AND THIS IN ITSELF shows just how corrupt the so called "justice" is in Japan and why it's receiving such scrutiny abroad! If the allegations are true or not remains to be seen but, in any case, it would be impossible for Ghosn to do what they say he did by himself. Others had to be involved and it was even stated that Saikawa signed documents and received emails outlining the retirement payout options for Ghosn. Obviously he knew everything and it is very probable that many others were involved as well. Why are there no other suspects? The simple answer seems to be that is Nissan wanted to avoid a merger and saw ousting Ghosn as the way to do that. Ghosn may be innocent or he may be guilty, but that should be determined in a fair trail. AND that trail should include many more that just 1 suspect!

@True Blue

Sympathy for Ghosn and disgust for the Japanese "justice" system are two different things!

So many miss the point that this is not about the innocence or guilt of Ghosn anymore but this farce of a justice system.

The prosecutors may have caught a fish this time, or may be not, but it's usually only in third world dictatorships that they are allowed to lock someone up on weak allegations and go on an endless fishing trip looking for something to charge the person.

And rearresting him while on bail because "he might become a flight risk", when he's already proven he is not, is just crazy!

@LB315

Actually there are only two charges, not reporting deferred income and temporarily transferring personal losses to Nissan while he arranged more collateral.

@tina

108 days in solitary, not allowed to see family, no heat, poor meals, ruined life, etc and that's not punishment? you should hope your never "not punished" by our backward hostage justice system.

Well,there are worse jails. Especially in the country that is screaming about rights.

Of course the biggest thing here is that Ghosn hasn't been found guilty of any crimes and wasn't in jail but detention. He shouldn't be punished for an allegation that hasn't been proven in court, especially allegations of non-violent white collar crimes.

@Sh1mon

No one has mentioned 'tax evasion' because it has nothing to do with the charges against Ghosn.

The media always seems add enough spin that it's difficult to understand the original intent. It's true Renault is not compensating Ghosn for the amount stated but the article doesn't explain the amount is for a non-compete clause that was always optional and the the remaining 90% of the total is actually a value for an option on performance shares not actually cash. The performance shares also come with the stipulation that Ghosn be present at Renault when he resigns which, due to Japan's hostage justice system, is impossible.

Renault did say

“Mr. Ghosn retains, as of the date hereof, his positions within Alliance Rostec Auto BV and Renault do Brasil,” Renault added.

Renault is trying to balance their domestic troubles and the Ghosn situation. It'll be interesting to see how it all works out.

I'm still trying to figure out Saikawa's strategy for declaring a ¥9.2 billion yen loss to cover delayed salary to Ghosn. Salary that he says will never be paid. This will probably come back to bite Saikawa where it hurts too!

I'll wager that the Prosecutors & Japan, Inc. are feeling more than just a bit of remorse right now over all of this.

They obviously made a mistake in handling things and are now trying desperately to find something that will standup in court to support the allegations to save face. Ghosn certainly isn't a saint BUT proving criminal intent in court requires more than wishful thinking. Their game plan right now seems to be to keep Ghosn hidden away in detention hoping things go away.

The French prosecutors seem to be much more level headed and aren't so quick to jump without cause saying that "they haven't decided if they will pursue the allegation". If it had been in Japsn and Nissan had said "Did you notice the big event Ghosn held for Nissan just 'happened' to be on his birthday?" Whether coincidence or not the Japan prosecutors would have prematurely jumped on that too without checking if there was any evidence that would stand up on court!

Nissan really played the prosecutors when trying to pull off this coup! That says a lot about Japan's "justice" system!

The car manufacturer will list the payments in its third quarter statement next Tuesday despite having no intention to pay them, according to reports by The Japan Times.

Hummm... This sounds like something the Prosecutors asked Nissan to do so they can insist the payments amounts were already firmly decided.

I can hear the Prosecutors now "See, Nissan even published the deferred remuneration! We really do have a case. Beleive us!"

Offers passport, he has 3 of them :)

It's obvious the Judge would require ALL passports and Ghosn did say "that he would accept any and all" requirements.

@Melody

"I have a genuine love and appreciation for Nissan."

That, in itself, is not a reason to release him.

But,

"I have a genuine love for destroying Nissan." Better keep him detended.

Is not a reason to NOT release him on bail either!

I would imagine that France is looking at all the options for a merger with or without Ghosn. It will be interesting!