There are so many reputable institutions that have been critical of lockdowns and other measures. Media collusion with global health agencies had a lot to do with making sure those opposing viewpoints got lumped in with mumbo jumbo and crackpot theories. It doesn't mean they were wrong just diminished. Remember the trick is to question the science, not believe in it.
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People in high risk groups were dying, yes. Perhaps you missed my point? The vast majority of people who got infected weren't dying or getting seriously ill and that was clear from March 2020. In fact, if you recall, it was mostly asymptomatic cases that led to the push for social distancing.
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Why is it nonsensical to think this was known in March of 2020? The virus showed it's characteristics very early on. Dramatically low mortality for most people other than high risk groups. Why has there been such vehement rebuke of extreme covid measures, requiring media censorship and government mandates in some places? Because it was always seen as obviously overblown from the beginning.
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If only there were some supernational puplic private corporate partnership that could subvert a populace vote and override democratically elected leaders who don't align with the collectivist narrative. Like a state within another state. Deep within another state. Too bad that can't happen. We might be seeing a red wave of anti immigration "fascism" rising up.
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Forgot to mention, I think anyone who wants to wear a mask has every right to do so and doesn't deserve any shame or judgement. What is shameful is the schools enforcing children to wear them. It's disgusting and amounts to child abuse imho.
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I still get told off for not wearing one from time to time. Was told I couldn't enter a certified cultural facility without one. So it's unfortunate but many institutions are taking it upon themselves to enforce arbitrary rules where otherwise many people would start to feel comfortable without the holy face shroud.
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Well, at least this will reduce the risk of personal information bein leaked from the app (if not already),
Right on the money! Unfortunately the MySOS app requires a service agreement with a private for-profit company that does have a clause which allows your personal private data to be given to unspecified third parties. But if they can't harvest your personal private data for profit, how could they have stopped the virus from spreading so quickly?
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Gov't: How we reduce case numbers?
Health Ministry: Vaccinate everyone!
Gov't: The vaccine isn't working.
Health Ministry: Idk, masks forever?
Gov't: Okay good idea but still not working.
Intern: Just stop counting cases slowly so it looks like a natural decline.
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Unfortunately that's not a truthful statement. It's too general and doesn't address the nuanced issue at hand specifically around the covid-19 pandemic and reactions of the health authorities. The data, even from the beginning, was always showing covid infections in the majority of people was rather low risk. The widespread use of a new type of mRNA treatment does have real risks, many of which are still largely unknown but actively speculated and tested. To make a general statement to include vaccines at large completely misses the point of what is being discussed and censored in the scientific communities around the world. Of which this comment section is not.
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Your argument that risking getting infected is so dangerous that you should get a vaccine that doesn't offer protection from infection is so wildly nonsensical. The symptoms for the majority of covid cases are very similar to the most common side effects of the vaccine anyway.
Of course less flammable things will limit the spread of a fire if exposed to open flame. But in the case of the immune system, it's as if you can train something to be fire retardant once it's exposed to a flame. Rather than the government or other authorities requiring you replace everything with a product that is specifically designed to resist a certain type of fire.
Regardless of the analogy, we have high vaccination rates currently, high case numbers, high reinfection rates, and rapid mutations. So at what point was the the vaccine supposed to start working to reduce those metrics? 5th booster? 6th? Or should it be encouraged that if you've been exposed to the virus and recovered that maybe you can move on knowing you are more protected than before?
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It's not my solution. It's the human immune system. Your solution of requiring everyone to live in a fireproof house is the one that doesn't make sense.
Natural immunity provides the type of protection that limits the viruses ability to bind to ACE receptors in the first place. Otherwise why is there such an enormous reinfection rate in populations with higher vaccination?
In this specific case of coronaviruses, natural immunity by far the better protection. Elderly and immunocompromised should have ready access to these treatments. Young and or otherwise healthy would do much better with naturally acquired immunity in the long run.
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Unfortunately the data doesn't support this claim. Being unvaccinated with previous infection does provide a more robust and broad immune response compared to a specific spike protein focused response from the vaccine. It's not that the vaccine is completely ineffective, it's that natural immunity is more effective across a broader range of variants. Also the reduction in efficacy happens faster in vaccinated than unvaccinated with prior infection. Hence the need for boosters.
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The spike protein vaccination leads to more vaccine dodging variants because so many people have the same level of immunity. They share the same immune response. The virus can easily adapt to a homogeneous landscape. Had natural immunity been given more credence, the variety of immune responses would have rendered the virus unable to so quickly and precisely adapt more virulent strains. Oh well. This will go down in history as one of the worst public health disasters ever. Don't forget to get your booster!
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When they announced the expectation of approval before data is submitted then lo and behold it's approved based on whatever data is supplied, that's somehow a conspiracy theory. Right...
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They can include any data they want. It was already destined to be approved either way. The increased efficacy of the new treatment was concluded based on increased antibody levels in 8 mice. To try and scew the narrative using old data which is now useless given the decreased efficacy would be the most misleading use of that data. It's hard to be objective about these sorts of things when you feel the need to pick a side and fight for it. Data is only a small part of what goes into a risk benefit analysis and unfortunately the data from 8 mice just doesn't do much to further the mRNA treatment offensive.
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The efficacy of the previous bivalent treatment is shown to have decreased compared to antibody levels from previous infection. The efficacy of the "BA.5" updated (new) treatment was based on the data from 8 mice. Or as I like to call it the "Lab Rat Theory".
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any specific problem with the mRNA vaccines would have been already found out by now
Or maybe in 5 years? 10 years? The next generation? What was the long term data to back up this statement? The decades of testing done on animals of which the safety data was not sufficient to grant approval? I'm not sure how you can make this conclusion?
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BigYen, CDC reported that 94% of those deaths were 'with' covid, as in more than one other comorbitdity. Also, the average age of a covid death is 81.5 years old. I think you're a little misinformed. I appreciate the quote though. The data used for FDA approval was from 8 mice.
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Djokovic barred for no reason at all. Shameful.
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I said they were trying to control the weather in this country years ago. I was called a conspiracy theorist. Right again!
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Yay, you can drink garbage beer while cheering your favorite team as it plays on a pitch built by modern day slave labor. So happy for you.
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So the Ministry of Health can badger you via an invasive MySOS app that you are required to install and then penalize you for not complying. Government mandated smartphone apps. I hope you covid maximalists are happy. This comment will be deleted as it is not in line with the health tyranny narrative.
"What's the problem? It's just an app. TikTok tracks your movements and data. So why not let the government literally mandate that you install a physical real time tracking device and respond to their pings? If we just comply, then everything will go back to normal. Two weeks to flatten the curve."
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@virusrex, Dr. Kary Mullis invented PCR technology. He made the claim that it is an insufficient tool to diagnose illness and infection, not me. It was provided as a solution to track covid under emergency use authorization and thus not regulated by the normal scrutiny. The cycle threshold used to detect SARS-CoV-2 is high enough to detect genetic material even in the absence of a viral infection. This is the reason why there were so many "asymptomatic cases".
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The common paper mask is useless after about 20-30 minutes. The moisture in your breath saturates the fibers and droplets can pass through. Also, asymptomatic cases are a farce. Non-clinical diagnosis with a PCR test does not properly detect viral infection.
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You have no idea what let to the realization of the mRNA platform, do you? Operation Warp Speed essentially removed the very red tape that requires a vaccine be properly trialed and a certain threshold of safety to be determined. It's absolutely wrong to think that the requirements of the past were met for this product. mRNA vaccines have never been proven to be safe and effective under non EUA circumstances. Not in the decades of research that's been done. There has never been an effective vaccine for coronaviruses.
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Listen, folks. This is just one study. No need to draw any conclusions. We need to give this time and let the data come in before we stop prescribing this to young people willy-nilly. That would be irresponsible. Unlike the mRNA vaccine platform. That was safe and effective even before the clinical trials ended.
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