There was no bill, so Renault wasn't charged. What's the problem again? It hurt their egos?
All the allegations thrown at him, he has a perfectly logical explanation. Crooked or not, he is way above anybody's league, especially Japan.
The only plausible charge for him is the one he did in 2008, and even that needed all the technicalities Japan can find. He is not powerful, it's just that the Nissan oyaji's are too weak. No one else there should run Nissan. Shareholders should run away.
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As expected no one seems to want to defend what Nissan is doing here.
Okay, I'll defend Nissan. Oh wait, I can't.
Imagine in the shareholder's meeting Saikawa is sacked and other board members involved. I wonder what the shareholders are actually thinking about this. Politicizing their money for that imaginary nationalism, I don't think they care about that. We'll see in April.
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Wow, J Inc. still to continue pulling tricks to keep this illusion of righteousness. I wonder how they can sleep at night.
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What about the teachers who gave the questionnaires to the father? That's breach of trust, right?
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I think we've established that Japan's justice system is a load of cow poop. No point in arguing here.
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@Richard that is a very long question.
spineless, yes-men-and-women with zero autonomy or commonsense
This. In Japan, rules aren't made to prevent a wrong doing. Rules are more like a set of actions from which you choose based on a given situation. If the situation is not in the "rules", Japanese people don't know what to do. This is their culture. They are proud of it. Moving on.
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Indifference. Apathy. Lack of common sense. This is Japanese culture.
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I once reported at a police station that my bicycle was stolen. Stupidest thing I ever did. The police acted like it was my fault. That was an old policeman.
On the other hand, I was stopped once going home from work at 1AM and took a detour around town just because. The police were very apollogetic and explained they were patrolling that area. These were a young man and a lady.
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The only person to blame is the father. If only Japan system can protect the truly innocent victims as they can indict a person on non-existent charges. I remember in the news a lady was murdered by her stalker, which was reported earlier and the police did nothing. If only the police are smart enough and can decide for themselves...
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I've seen pictures of the people in a Japanese courtroom. Sitting up straight, looking straight ahead, probably not moving a muscle. People who follow stupid rules are not capable of deciding for themselves. What makes you think they can change a system?
When I was studying Japanese, the head of the department (in u-tokyo), an oyaji, taught us for one day. There we discussed the formal of "miru", which is "goran ni naru". The students and I realized where the word came from (-ni naru phrase). The teacher got mad and told us to stop thinking where the word came from and just use it as it is.
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@WillGoode that depends on the case. If the crime was "intended to not declare" then he may as well be guilty. But the charge was "not declaring". Same as if someone "plans to murder" and not just "murder" someone who's already dead. You can plan to murder, but you cannot murder a dead person.
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If he is found guilty of not declaring his supposed to be retirement package, will Nissan/Renault not give it to him? If so, then he will have been found guilty of the money he will not have received which means he shouldn’t be found guilty.
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Maybe it’s time to let the old ways die. Old ways really holding Japan back instead of encouraging progress. I’d say, youth revolution. Let the young ones decide their own future.
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@Katarina, yes. And subsequently Chinese Law applies in China. NK law in NK. It’s an old excuse. Just because they’re used to it, doesn’t make it right and just. Please do some “research” and find out yourself how archaic and barbaric the Japan’s justice system is. I mean if you are okay with that then that’s on you.
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Judge’s reason for denying bail: “Are you kidding me? If I let you out, my prosecutor friends will sideline me forever. Thanks for the offer but, no.”
I love Japan, but the inJustice system is just plain male cow poop.
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@Will Goode, but Toyota? Nintendo? Other companies that are actually doing great without the high salaried execs? Let’s just admit it, Nissan’s base employees, those who inherited the reigns and those who might in the future are just incompetent. Without Ghosn, they would have been nothing. Now they removed Ghosn, they will be back to where they belong. Heck, even with just Saikawa as CEO, Nissan is crumbling.
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@Melody, so you admit what Japan is doing is wrong. Just because some country are worse doesn’t mean Japan is right.
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@Melody, do you want someone to call the police on you? Try to defend yourself while in detention with no contact to the outside. Oh, your boss will fire you for sure just because you were detained. Your friends will not help you for the fear of having their names tainted. One mistake by someone else and your life is ruined. Don’t think it already happened?
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Japan has mastered the game of their fake justice system. Only way for this to change is to change. Hence, all accused of non-sense charges will have their lives destroyed, guilty or not. Hey, who wants to get arrested? It’s easy to make a call to the police on a made up crime you know.
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The reason Nissan is still alive is because of Renault. Renault invested in Nissan and just recently raking in the benefits. Why would they want to give up Nissan/money? I honestly believe Saikawa et al can’t run Nissan. He needs to go away.
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This just proves that Saikawa is incompetent and that Mitsubishi CEO. They were directors and knew nothing? Why would I as shareholder be comfortable with them controlling my money? Shareholder meeting!!!
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When I was doing military training in college, there were these two pretty socialite girls that are way stronger than I am. Reminds me always to respect women because they can be better than me in so many ways
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I still think H.Saikawa can pull the Companies through
Are you sure? Nissan’s stock’s been going down since he became CEO
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If you are in a position where you can see wrong doing by the big big boss, you wont say something, because otherwise you'll be kicked out of your job the next minute.
If you have this kind of mentality, you won’t be able to climb the ladder of the corporate world. You’ll be stuck at the bottom. You are assuming that the Nissan board are a bunch of incompetent “yes” men. If that’s correct then Nissan is in big trouble. If not, then they are a bunch of scums. Either way, it paints a bad picture for Nissan. I personally will never associate myself with anything Nissan unless they can clean up their board esp. Saikawa and his cohorts.
Then again, if Japan doesn’t have a dark side then here will be haven. Heaven on earth. I think the revolting state of its justice system balances everything out. Now we can freely say, in terms of justice, Japan is at par with NK and China. Other than that, all is good.
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I wonder if Japanese lawyers are proud of their jobs. Even he judges. Relying on confession 99 percent of the time seems to remove the incentive of being good at your job. You don’t really have to gather evidences, study precedent etc., as long as you can force a confession. Where’s the reward in that? It’s sad. Almost pathetic.
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