kansaigent comments

Best is just deport him and not allow him to return for a set period of time. It is not necessary to waste tax dollars on this

Most people do not know about it actually. It was on CNN for a bit but I think many are unaware

Agree with Laguna. The U.S. will become a one party state which is good so and rightfully so. Kavanaugh is a bump in the road and eventually this will be reversed. Progress always has bumps in the road and this event is no different

I think the philosophy under discussion here is the basic human right to choose one's religion. In Malaysia I believe it is illegal for a Muslim to change their religion. This is far different than someone trying to prothlesize. If someone comes to my door I can choose to say no. Even if this is offensive (I am Christian and find door to door Christian evangelists offensive) but I politely say no thank you. It is different than a government not allowing a choice.

Stanley - we are still waiting for an answer as to which states prohibit conversion of Christians. Furthermore if there are such laws (would like evidence) the Supreme Court would rule them unconstitutional in about 30 seconds.

I have met many Muslims. Many of which I like. Some of which freely discuss religion with me (Muslims also consider Jesus a great prophet). On the other hand there are radical Muslims (as with other religions) that believe that Islam must be imposed by the sword and conversion must be disallowed. I do not have a problem with Islam but I do have a big problem with the lack of choice and lack of woman's rights.

It seems a somewhat radical element exists in Malaysia's government as well as Saudi Arabia, Yemen, etc. etc.

Do unto others as you would like them to do with you...I believe Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all share this value. So if you do not want someone to force you to be a religion then do not force others.

Peace

Lot's of the usual namecalling here and personal attacks (from both sides). Personally I did not like the Bush administration and I do not like the Obama administration. I prefer Ron Paul - I only wish he could run under a 3rd Party Ticket because he does not really fall under any of the parties - now, with that out of the way:

American politics is now run more on emotion. If you read the article, all of this is based on "leaks" and "unnamed sources". How about letting all the facts come out first. As a Californian I know alot about Pelosi. She is a multi-millionaire by marriage and wishes to impose rules on Americans that she will be exempt from. On the other hand I do not think much of Cheney either as too many things smell like a week old piece of sashimi that fell under the table and got lost in the mess.

Regarding the top secret White House visits. Yes Cheney and Bush did that and guess what...Obama is doing the same now? Both parties pull the same crap but spin it differently. Our government has not become more transparent. We have bills being passed, spending massive amounts of money, where none of those voting (and they admit to it) read the bill. Both parties are guilty of this and those that bring the issue up are attacked.

Only if I could do something like this and get away with it in my business.

So we sit here and argue among ourselves, call each other names, while the establishment continues to stick it to us.

Bush severely raised the debt/deficit and Obama has spent (has not been spent yet but it is committed) more money in six months than the entire history of the United States. The United States is now faced with a new "political class", where our leaders are nearly all millionairs and are generally not looking out for the nation and lowly citizens as a whole.

I strongly recommend the book "The Revolution - A Manifesto". The book is packed with common sense and I think alot of posters who disagree here would find issues they agree on in his writings.

Finally interesting how heavily American politics is covered here.

I am sure time will tell what really happened. With all of our faults in the U.S. we have generally been able to get to the bottom of things (we certainly like to hang our soiled underwear out for the world to see) and I hope we eventually will in this case as well.

Cheers