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Posted in: Was the dropping of the atomic bombs necessary? See in context

Enough already.

By 1944, EVERYONE who could read a map KNEW that Japan was going to lose. Island by island, the Japanese Imperial Army/Navy was losing ground, manpower, momentum. Despite this FACT, no one in Japan could say "NO" and the war of attrition continued. ONE person could have stopped the war, but he chose not to speak...

The situation?

Germany was defeated, Russia declared war on Japan, and began moving troops into position to attack Japan from the north (Hokkaido). The U.S. saw what Russia was doing in Europe (commie bastards!), and became determined to defeat Japan BEFORE Russia could get a toe hold in Japan... The only problem was, as June 1945 turned to July, and then August, the Japanese military and populace were not cooperating!!! Even starving to death, THEY KEPT FIGHTING!!! They started this damn war, and told everyone that there were no rules, and no 'innocent civilians'. In Germany, Hitler had the good sense to kill himself. But in Japan, allied peace making attempts made through Switzerland were stuck at the same point: Japanese negotiators DEMANDED that the Emperor must not be killed. (LOTS of Australians, Kiwis, and Chinese, among others, wanted the Emperor's head on a stick!!! -Meanwhile, as the allies advanced, they noticed the Imperial Japanese Army had a tendency to kill P.O.W.'s before retreating...this was a huge problem. So, what to do?

*By the way, Germany AND Japan had also been working for years to develop nuclear weapons. IF they had succeeded in producing even one bomb, do any of you think they would have hesitated? HELL NO!!! Japan waged TOTAL WAR!!! There were NO CIVILIANS. Remember the American contractors Japan captured in numerous battles? They were not treated like civilians, they were beaten, tortured, enslaved and often killed - FOR BEING AMERICAN!

-So, to put ourselves in the mindset of the allies, here is a recap;

Russia (then the Soviet Union) is advancing, and will divide Japan like Germany, IF given the chance. Kamikaze pilots are wreaking havoc. Allied P.O.W.'s are dying daily. Japanese civilians are committing suicide/starving to death OR attacking allied forces as human bombs everywhere the allies land. Repeated peace overtures via the Swiss have reached an impasse: unconditional surrender is not possible, because Japanese negotiators insist the emperor MUST be protected. Allied Military planners, using data from the attack on Okinawa, run scenarios estimating the number of allied & Japanese deaths that would result from a full on invasion of Japan from Kyushu on to Tokyo. The estimated dead are in the millions. This time line forecasts the war ending in 1946... EVERYONE ON OUR SIDE is tired of the war, and looking for a quick way to end it. You know that AFTER the war is over, you are going to need a strong Japan to counter Russia in east Asia...

So, the U.S. dropped one bomb, and sent a telegraph saying that Japan MUST surrender UNCONDITIONALLY. 3 days passed, and still Hirohito could not be bothered to make a phone call .... so they dropped ANOTHER city-killer!!! Finally Japan surrendered.

So who was to blame??? A) The people of Japan who let themselves be used, just like the people of Germany. 2)The emperor... If he had just said "stop the war" the war would have ended earlier. But we will never know. Because it took TWO ATOM BOMBS to convince the war-mongering Hirohito to STOP CAUSING HIS PEOPLE, AND THE PEOPLE OF THE NATIONS OCCUPIED BY JAPAN, TO DIE!!!

Who were the Japanese of 1945? See this link from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare#World_War_II NOT NICE PEOPLE!

*** here is an excerpt: According to historians Yoshiaki Yoshimi and Seiya Matsuno, the chemical weapons were authorized by specific orders given by Emperor Showa himself, transmitted by the chief of staff of the army. For example, the Emperor authorized the use of toxic gas on 375 separate occasions during the battle of Wuhan from August to October 1938.

So, you want to blame someone? BLAME the emperor!!!! He caused the deaths of MILLIONS OF CIVILIANS, and did not even have the decency to die by his own code. All those Japanese soldiers tortured, killed, raped and even died invoking his name, living by the bushido "code", and he could not do the 'right' thing and shoot himself. And the Americans were co-conspirators in the post-war cover-up.

I am really sick of this revisionist crap. If you attack the U.S. A., WE WILL NUKE YOU!!! message? DO NOT ATTACK US!!! 2nd message? stop apologizing for saving millions of people on both sides, and keeping Japan as one undivided nation. Note - Russia took 4 islands north of Hokkaido as bounty, and they were only in the war against Japan for a short time...

When someone asks why the U.S. dropped TWO nukes on Japan, tell them the truth: Hirohito was biding his time, negotiating better surrender terms for himself - and THAT is why it took TWO nukes to end the war...

PS: Where were the Japanese anti-war protesters in 1945? Oh yeah, THERE WERE NONE!!! Unlike the Vietnam war, where American civilians stopped a war started by the military, the Japanese people were very silent...

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