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Posted in: Censure motion against Hashimoto voted down See in context

Only evidence that proves that women were coerced is "comfort women"'s  testimonies

Nobody at here cannot also give an evidence that is not an testimonies by "comfort women".

And there testimonies are often contradicting...

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Posted in: Hashimoto says S Korean troops guilty of wartime sex abuse See in context

slumdog

??

Hashimoto NEVER said sexual assault was necessary.

Although many foreigners who can not read Japanese think that Hashimoto said so.

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Posted in: Hashimoto says S Korean troops guilty of wartime sex abuse See in context

Again in Sasebo, American soldiers sexual assaulted Japanese woman.

This is why Hashimoto is opening his mouth.

And many people here commenting shut up Hashimoto.

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Posted in: Defiant Hashimoto says U.S. troops abused women during occupation See in context

To rob12345

I am not trying to make you angry :-<

The main reason there is a lack of evidence in general, is because Japan, conveniently made no effort whatsoever after WW2 to gather information on what had happened. Japan probably thought this was a wise strategy that would allow it to escape various kinds of criticism. Japan didn't document, and did not educate its people. Then, a few decades later, people form other countries strated to come out with what they had gathered. If only Japan had been more proactive then...

I can understand what you want to say. But still evidence is really important. Without evidence I can say that China had used atomic bomb against Japan.(Of course not true.) And then someone gonna ask me where is the evidence? Do you think it is OK for me to say that there is no evidence because China Government dumped it. No you can't do it. What I want to say is that you can say anything without evidence. So evidence is really important.

<>See? This is exactly what I am talking about. The source you are citing is a communist novelist and ex-soldier. Behold, everyone, the kind of high level authorities Japan has produced regarding this topic!! Not even a journalist, not a historian. No, a novelist ex-soldier. And, more importantly, look at the conclusions that are made by this Japanese poster: "the novelist wrote fiction that really turned out to be partly fiction, hence there is no hard evidence". Now, where is the logic in all this??? There is none. Perhaps the Japanese brain loses its capabilities for logical thinking whenever this topic comes up?

The reason why I refer to this is to explain why many Japanese are dubious about 'forcing women to become sex slave'. And OK, I can give you another fiction which was made by journalist. Uemura Takashi, who works for Asahi Shinbun. If you can read Japanese please read this.http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A4%8D%E6%9D%91%E9%9A%86 I didn't say that because of this(fiction) it is proven that there were no women who were forced to become sex slave. Got it?

Another interesting one. So, they apparently put up an ad for a "whore". "Hence," this Japanese poster Kyou1 says, "there has been no forced prostitution at all." It's ridiculous. It's like proving the atomic bombs were not dropped because you know that the US was also in possession of other non-atomic bombs.

I see what you are getting at. But don't you know it is actually quite difficult to prove that there isn't(weren't) something.(My English is poor sorry) What I mean is that how can you prove that crow is black. You just have to bring one black crow. It's quite easy. But how can you prove that crow is not white. There are no white crow in the world (maybe it exist but assume that there is no white crow ) so how would you do it? You have to give many evidence that this crow is black , that one is also black ... it will not end. So I think that it is impossible to prove 100% sure that there wasn't women who were forced to become sex slave.

From the document: "The nature of this "service" was not specified but it was assumed to be work connected with visiting the wounded in hospitals, rolling bandages, and generally making the soldiers happy." "On the basis of these false representations many girls enlisted for overseas duty and were rewarded with an advance of a few hundred yen."

A bit further in the document: "The contract they signed bound them to Army regulations and to war for the "house master " for a period of from six months to a year depending on the family debt for which they were advanced ..."

And: "The "house master" received fifty to sixty per cent of the girls' gross earnings depending on how much of a debt each girl had incurred when she signed her contract. "

And: "Many "masters" made life very difficult for the girls by charging them high prices for food and other articles."

Hmm. OK.

generally making the soldiers happy

I think that every women can understand what does it mean.Don't you think so? So I think all of the women understand what they gonna do. Am a illogical? (If I am,sorry)

And you think those women were not treated fairly and they were poor.

http://makizushi33.ninja-web.net/img03_02.gif

Again. Please look at this. It read 300 yen for a month.

Therefore in fact they earned about 120~150 yen a month. I don't think this salary isn't bad considering that, in those days, men graduated from university earns 20 yen a month for their first salary. So I think they were not poor. On the contrary they were rich. Of course I won't say that Japan paid money so it is not a trouble. Yes, it is a tragedy.

Indeed: modern human trafficking of girls who end up in the sex industry and can't quit because they have a debt to pay to the gangers that recruited them. In other words: complete and utter forced prostitution.

I think it's a tragedy. But having debt was not Japan's fault. And they choose this job to pay back there debt. They weren't forced. Hashimoto said I am sorry for them. He did not say it was necessary.

Kyou1, you are not among tourists here. Most posters here are living in Japan. There is therefore no need to tell lies. Japan as a country has bad relationships with all its neighboring countries and one reason for that is exactly because the country Japan is not shy at all, but rather insensitive and stubborn, and has a high pride.

Oh really? My English teacher (American) often says that Japanese is shy. There are a lot of countries who have bad relationships with its neighboring countries.(not only Japan) And look at this.

http://blog-imgs-53.fc2.com/n/a/n/nanndemomatome2ch/org4196337.jpg

This is a questionary asking whether do you like Japan?

from top country is Vietnam Philippine Thai Indoneshia Singapore Malaysia HongKong Taiwan China Korea

Dark red means I really like Japan Pink means I like Japan Light blue means I don't like Japan Dark blue means I really don't like Japan

So you can see from it that except China and Korea 80% of people likes Japan.

Japan as a country has bad relationships with all its neighboring countries

Therefore this is incorrect. Maybe you would think this was fabricated by Japanese Media.

Then look at this.

http://www.japanprobe.com/2012/05/16/bbc-global-poll-japan-has-most-positive-influence-in-the-world/

I will say important thing again. Generally it is quite difficult to prove that there isn't'(were not) something.

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Posted in: Defiant Hashimoto says U.S. troops abused women during occupation See in context

MASSWIPE

You are misunderstanding too. Hashimoto and some Japanese are denying that there was a plan made by the military authorities or Japanese government to kidnap women and force them to become sex slave.

He didn't said Japanese soldiers had never raped. I am sure there were unfortunately, rapes by Japanese soldiers as like many countries did

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Posted in: Defiant Hashimoto says U.S. troops abused women during occupation See in context

smithjapan

Which one is not true?

1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiji_Yoshida

2.<http://makizushi33.ninja-web.net/img03_02.gif >

3.http://makizushi33.ninja-web.net/img03_03.gif)

4.http://www.exordio.com/1939-1945/codex/Documentos/report-49-USA-orig.html

NO 2 Channel at all.

1 is from Wikipedia. 2 and 3 were originally on the website of Korean government (so words of hangeul below)

4 was made by American .

4 read as follow

A "comfort girl" is nothing more than a 『prostitute』 or "professional camp follower" attached to the Japanese Army for the benefit of the soldiers.

I understand that you think that I am simply plugging my ears, closing my eyes.Because I am Japanese. Then please give me an evidence that 200,000 women were forced to have sex with Japanese soldiers. If you could, I would of course admit it. But I can't find it out any hard evidence so far. I know that I may be biased about "comfort women" issue. So please give me an evidence. I really want to know the truth of this big issue.

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Posted in: Defiant Hashimoto says U.S. troops abused women during occupation See in context

Upgrayedd thank you for commenting me. 

My English writing leave much to be desired ,but still, average Japanese English ability is much much poor than me.(I am Japanese) And I don't know whether you know about it or not but, Japanese is shy and doesn't speak out even when it is necessary.It's Japanese culture and it has good point and bad point.

But this time , it went badly. While China and Korea were lobbying in many countries Japanese government had done nothing. As a result many people around the world believe what China and Korea had said and not knowing Japanese side at all.

So many people cannot understand what Hashimoto had said. Because they don't know that "Comfort women" issue is controversial.They think that it has hard evidence. Therefore many misunderstood that Hashimoto had said forcing women to become sex slave or rape was necessary. It is no wonder that many people thought Hashimoto is crazy.

This is a big issue for Japan. To make their citizen able to speak English better and speak out loud when it is necessary so that many people around the world would not misunderstand Japan.

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Posted in: Defiant Hashimoto says U.S. troops abused women during occupation See in context

Up to 200,000 “comfort women” from Korea, China, the Philippines and elsewhere were forcibly drafted into brothels catering to the Japanese military during WWII, according to many mainstream historians.

Really? There is no hard evidence that women were really forced to do it or not.

Seiji Yoshida a famous Japanese who,also himself was a Japanese soldier, said that there were many women who were forced to have sex with Japanese soldiers. But later he admitted that it was a fiction. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiji_Yoshida)

And also this makes many Japanese dubious about "forcing women to become comfort women " (http://makizushi33.ninja-web.net/img03_02.gif and http://makizushi33.ninja-web.net/img03_03.gif) It said that we are recruiting whore and that we will pay this amount of money and so forth. It means that they were not FORCED to do that job. (I am not a historian, so I don't know about detail but, I think now you can understand why there are some Japanese who support Hahimoto. And also there are lots of material which makes Japanese dubious about 'Forcing women to become sex slave.')

Here is a document which reads that those who work as "comfort women" were treated well and that they earned money. (http://www.exordio.com/1939-1945/codex/Documentos/report-49-USA-orig.html)

Toru Hashimoto, who said “comfort women” forced to provide sex to Japanese troops during World War II were a military necessity.

This is not true. He never said so. And I think this is the reason why many people think Hashimoto as a crazy guy and also Japan is crazy. He said that I am sorry for those women who didn't want to do that job but who had to done it. What he said necessary was to give soldiers sex opportunities in organised prostitution. If not, men would start to rape local women as many countries had done,which he raise examples of US troop raping Japanese women and other example I can give is Lai Đại Hàn, children whose mother is Vietnamese who was raped by South Korean soldiers during the Vietnam War . I will say it again. What he said necessary was an organised prostitution to avoid local women to be raped. He never said "forcing women to have sex"" was necessary.

Many people comments that you cannot justify yourself because there are another people who also had done a bad thing. Yes, it is right. And this is exactly what Hashimoto said. What he said is that I have to raise my voice to protect Japan from bad reputation which doesn't have hard evidence and that why only Japan should be blamed for having sex in organised prostitution despite the fact that many countries had also done it.

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