Why are you determining it is a bullying so soon? Is it so far out of your imagination that the kids all consented to a stupid bet, he lost and he jumped because of his belief that a promise is a promise rather than coercion?
Point taken; could have been kids exercising the bet and he jumped on his own accord.
I dont take bullying out of the equation since if it was indeed bullying, those bullies would use that story to cover their ass. Dead man tells no tale. And judge me for all i care but bullying is rampart here, and there is a dead teen, and I see this being reported as a PRANK.
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I said it before.. I'll say it again..
To the morons out there thinking to commit suicide and planning to take their kids with them..
REVERSE THE ORDER and kill yourself first please.
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I really, really hope he does NOT hang.
Oh no.. no no no no no. Death Penalty would be injustice to the little girl.
He needs to suffer exponentially than the pain he inflicted on the little angel.
As a father of two, and having a 2 year old daughter myself, this is one of the crime/cases that is really painful to recall. And I can think of no punishment that would fit the crime for this 'person'.
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As much as a fan I am..
san man wa muri.
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I swear to god, lots of Brave men here doing brave things.
Targetting young girls, old people, kids.. and now apparently even a baby, who was accompanied by only the mother. I would bet anything that this psycho wouldnt have done anything had the father been there.
My wife always gets attacked by weirdos or Psychopaths (following her around, tapping her on shoulder and mocking her, bumping to her on purpose, and on one occassion a lady grabbed her by the hair)
but nothing ever happens if I am with her.
These brave men are scum of Japan. If I was there and someone came to choke my crying one year old daughter, I am going to Jail.
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Jesus Christ... Lots of women praying for children, and this "thing" left her own 1 YEAR OLD son to play around in Roppongi.. at 43 years old.. and it is 1 degree outside.
I am so upset over this.
I have 2 kids, a 3 year old and a 1 year old. The thought of them crying alone in the car in the middle of the night, then wondering off crying for their parent's love.. it breaks my heart.
Some people are just not being humans. just human beings.
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OMG. This is truly heartbreaking, with no leads or CCTV capture whatsoever.
It would drive me insane, if I was the father.
Shouldnt have left the kid in the car.. 10 minutes changed his life forever.
I pray for the boy's safety... but one month is too long.. its hard.
Hope we get more leads and news about this.
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Horrible.. Targeting young girls like that.
Young girls needs to be educated better in defending and protecting themselves.
The whole "obey your senior" should have limitations. I feel school and parenting are failing here.
The 43 jiji needs to be locked up.
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While I respect your opinion, I suggest you keep that to yourself. You dont know what the relatives and friends are feeling right now. I dont know her and I already feel aweful and pray for her safety.
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guess everything is in order then.. sips coffee
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put him away? and feed him and give him a roof over his shoulder over taxpayer's expense? I say put him away for good.
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Horrible way to go after living 78 years. The driver is probably traumatized too.
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my god. poor boy. now without a mother. Hope the father and the boy recovers from this.
as for the 28 year old killer, may you get what you deserve.
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Good to know. Hope the family of the girl would finally get answers.
Honestly at this point, I dont know what would be a better news regarding the girl's fate. I dont want to find out she's dead. But if not, I dont want to find out whats happening to her at this moment either.
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@gogogo yeah I didnt want to comment on the family because not sure if they gave her the support she needed or not.. but she definitely needed help and support. post partum depression is real and can result in this tragic loss.
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pitiful. this makes me extremely sad. I have a 2 month old daughter (and 2 year old boy) and never in a million years would I even consider harming a baby.
She was already at her parent's and voiced her concern and worry.. However still resulted in this ugly ending.
RIP little one. Hope youre smiling up there.. forgive your mother.. somehow.
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no indications of bullying, why am I doubting this. why would 2 high school girls kill themselves? if they were siblings, I would look into family related issues. But if not, the only thing they could possibly share in common is the school.
They got bullied, and the bullies are denying everything.
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Company men boys doing this for fun. Will they still be company men boys after this incident?
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wow, scary to read news from your own city. this is very troublesome.
The police simply bought them for questioning, wonder when they are going to be filed charges for assault?!
24 yr old adults picking on 13 yr old girl. these lowlifes need a good beating.
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Actually, seeing how evil some kids can be, I can actually even consider the scenario that they faked fainting, in order to get the teacher in trouble as payback, to show him he cant do it to them. Not sure about the one with HYPER VENTILATION syndrome, but one can fake it since doctors wouldnt get anything out of him with simple checkup since body would be normal.
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Ha! Serves these bullies right. I have no love for the bullies. The teacher is indeed in the wrong here, dont get me wrong. But it would sure be fun to see those bullies faint in front of everyone and be exposed for the cowards they are. These 'kids' can do inhumane things to the bullied, and I wouldn't bat an eye if I see one get what he deserved, or even more.
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geez.. another wacko who pretends he doesnt remember anything. Karma goes around and comes around, old man.
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let's not forget the thousands of takyubin delivery-people who work very long hours, in all weathers, take care to carefully deliver how many parcels? a day a week a year, and are unfailingly polite and/or friendly….
all good, but when the company shows it tolerates this kind of behaviour is simply not acceptable from a user's perspective. nope. nope. nope.
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Anything less than firing that piece of trash is unacceptable.
I am definitely NOT CONSIDERING using sagawa anymore.
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You have no idea what these people's circumstance was, nor what the father was thinking, what he knew or didn't know, nor what actions he may have taken to prevent something bad from happening prior to this incident. Everything you say is entirely baseless speculation.
Actually I DO know what the father was thinking. He was thinking everything seemed okay the night he slept at 11pm. I agree I have no idea on the exact circumstances. Does that mean I cant speculate?! I can speculate all I want and discuss my own theories with people here. I dont care if you agree with my opinions or speculations, since you're entitled to your own.
I'm as impacted by this story as you guys commenting and reading this article.
anyway, feel free to comment for the sake of arguing, strangerland.
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Ridiculous assumption. You said yourself you have nothing to verify your comments, and don't know the details, and yet you have already assigned at least part of the blame to the man. Perhaps the mother was just very good at hiding her feelings, and maybe even didn't want to burden the father by pouring her heart out and asking for help. He went to bed, everything seemed fine. He came downstairs and found his kids dead and wife had slit her wrists.
I'm sorry, but a wife owning up ALL the problems like that so that the father wouldnt be burden, then ending up in that situation isn't exactly an excuse for the father. it's HIS FAMILY. No matter how much my wife tries to hide something for me if she's exhausted or have problems, I will sense it. I will know. cause i talk to her, I see her actions, I am aware of our family status. That doesnt really justify the father not knowing.
That's all you know. Why haven't you gone on to the thread about the man stabbing his 12-year-old son and said it must also be partly the wife's fault? The answer is because we don't know that she had anything to do with what happened between them, same as we have no evidence this is in any way anyone but the wife's fault. They may not have been on the best of terms -- we don't know -- but not his fault she murdered them, sorry.
You're being ridiculous. So my not visiting another article and commenting on it somehow leads you to somehow judge me? FYI this was the first article I read today. And I read that article afterwards. There is nothing for me to suspect or blame the wife, and you assuming that I SHOULD is stupid. You're very fast to judge others. I did not said it was the father's fault she murdered them, only that he could have prevented it. see how different that is?
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I don't understand why almost all are saying 'the poor father'! At the moment I'm trying to counsel a mother around her age who seems to go be going crazy because her husband doesn't help her in anything around the house and yet expect to be served like as if she didn't have three little ones to look after. Not even setting the table for dinner. She starts to eat at 9:00pm rushing to be able to bathe the kids while the hubby sits in front of of the Telly laughing at and watching lousy variety shows! There are one of the many thousand reasons why woman do this! Don't judge right away and most esp stop pitying the men!
Exactly the point I was trying to make, though I didnt want to paint the picture and be downvoted for being stereotype, but I completely agree 1000%.
When I get home I help my wife with taking care of the Kid. I do the dishes, take out the trash, and play with my kid and have quality time with both of them. I know a lot of families in Japan are exactly how you painted it to be. Being a male dominant country, the salary men / workers here just expects the wives to serve them and not do anything since they're tired from work. Emotionally detached from their own wife, the wife does not have anyone to talk to, in this society and culture. Add couple years like that to the mentally weak wife and there you go.
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I pity the father too, being a father myself. I wont say he is completely blameless for this though. It's HIS family. HIS wife. They clearly had communication issues, else the father would have known something was off. He failed to see how his wife is having a hard time raising four kids on her own. Dont know the details of course, but It's not unlikely for me to imagine the father working long hours and barely seeing his family. much less talking to them.
Unless the wife have some sort of mental issues which wasnt reported, I'd say the father could have prevented this from happening had he had more information on how his own wife was doing mentally.
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