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99% plus of all the masks being worn are not very effective at preventing virus transmission and neither are these plastic shields that are getting popular.

Source?

Virtually everyone except for the kiddies are wearing them and cases are going up. What other conclusion can one draw?

Although you can point out suggestions, that's still not a source or a study - can't just make up numbers on your own. For one main thing, a study compares the experimental group to a control group - to make sure that what's causing the experimental results is not something outside the experiment, and thus able to make a proper conclusion

Or cite sources like these:

"Coronavirus: face masks save lives, Japanese study says"

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-face-masks-save-lives-103449996.html

Using data collected by British market research company YouGov, the team from Miyazawa Clinic in Hyogo and the University of Houston-Victoria created a computer model to see how various factors affected death rates from the disease in different countries.

By far the most significant was mask wearing, which had a 70 per cent impact on death rates, they said in a paper published on Tuesday on the preprint website Medrxiv.org, which means it has yet to be peer-reviewed.

A study by researchers from the University of Cambridge in Britain in April showed that “universal masking” had contributed to the suppression of Covid-19 in all Asian countries except India.

Another study by researchers from the California Institute of Technology this month rated face masks “the most effective means to prevent inter-human transmission”.

the whole article was FAKE in the end.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/did-the-times-print-an-urban-legend/

That's an op-ed though. He has to prove it

99% plus of all the masks being worn are not very effective at preventing virus transmission and neither are these plastic shields that are getting popular.

Source?

Let's go with your train of thought then. You can call Kaep a hypocrite, but then you can't stop there. Do you think Kaep is the only one that Nike pays a lot? Heck, do you think Nike is the only one with sweatshops? Adidas? Puma? Reebok? Under Armour? Etc. Each of them pays their own lots of athletes, many of whom have their causes. We gonna end up with a very long list. Are we gonna call out each and every one of them for their hypocrisy? Are we gonna do this in every sports article? Where does it end?

And how about outside of sports. Once again, let's use the HK pro-democracy protestors - they're protesting against oppression by Beijing, all the while ignoring the oppression of minorities by the US - the very US that they're asking for and receiving support. Why are the HK protestors protesting against Beijing while accepting US support, but not protesting with the minorities against US oppression? Shall we point out this hypocrisy every time we talk about HK pro-democracy protestors?

The simple answer to this is that most people don't necessarily have the time nor resources to protest outside their own causes that they're already dealing with. Those HK protestors already have it up to their necks dealing with Beijing - they don't have the time nor resources to protest with the minority movements in the US. Those athletes with their own causes --fight against oppression, poverty, cancer, etc.-- (not to mention playing the damn sport itself) they don't have time nor resources to fight another front.

It'd be good if they do have the time and resources to fight another front. That's actually for the better. But it's not to be expected - it's just not realistic to expect it as the norm. People already have it up to their necks dealing with their own causes.

Or we can just point out the hypocrisy every time there's an article about any people. Anybody wanna keep a running list? Expectations

No worries! People will get their antibodies after they infected and survived the virus! No vaccines needed!

Not all antibodies have the same shelf-life

"Immunity to COVID-19 may wane just 2-3 months after infection, study suggests - It may not mean the end of immunity, but experts know little about immune responses."

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/immunity-to-covid-19-may-wane-just-2-3-months-after-infection-study-suggests/

This virus is so new - don't assume what happens with other viruses is the same

Only in these times is "The Chicks" considered an improvement over "Dixie Chicks".

They're not Dixie anymore - why would they keep the name

China will be up next, with the flight of a rover and an orbiter sometime around July 23; Chinese officials aren’t divulging much.

Why so secretive on a supposedly scientific mission

That makes it harder for ya to be trusted

The longer this goes on, the more they prolong the crisis mode around town

All they're doing is prolonging this - they're not doing themselves any favors

@extanker

I'm being realistic. Just don't expect people to be on cause for everything just because they're on cause for something.

Nike has paid a lot of people a lot of money, even when everybody knew about the sweatshops all these years. For example, NFL star JJ Watt and NBA stars Karl Malone and Charles Barkley, who are ardent pro-gun cause supporters. That's their cause and that's fine, but people didn't call for them to boycott Nike while they were doing its huge endorsements.

(Any big enough company nowadays has done wrong somewhere, while paying a lot of people. If you've ever worked for a big company, ya may find yourself being paid too. Now, I'm not saying ya shouldn't do something about it - just that I don't expect everybody who has a cause to take on that cause too, when they already have their own causes to deal with.)

And once again, the US itself has its problems, but don't fault protestors who welcome US support, fighting against oppression while the US has been doing its own oppressing. Nobody can be a hero to every cause.

On the debate teams, people laugh when somebody throws one-liners since that's when they know there's nothing behind the words, lol

Claudia Kishi happened to be everything the "model minority" stereotype wasn't. She got bad grades. She thrived in art and fashion. She wasn't struggling to belong.

And going for gravure?

I hate to tell you this, but you couldn’t be more wrong. That is not at all what that saying means.

It means that if you don’t speak up against any wrongdoing, then you are supporting it. You don’t get to pick and choose what you want to fight for. If it’s wrong, it’s your obligation to speak up. If you don’t protest it, you are for it. It goes for anything.

(Really one-liners, ohara, lol)

Anyways, nobody has the time nor the means to research against every single thing that's wrong in the world. (If one speaks up without doing some research, that's a recipe for disaster with one is just speaking out of his/her butt.) That's just an impossibility. Do ya speak up against everything that's wrong? Can ya protest everything that's happening in the US, for instance? Nobody can.

Heck that's an example: I don't fault the Hong Kong pro-democracy activists for not speaking up with what's happening in the US. In fact, while they welcome the support from the US, despite that the US has its own problems of oppressing minorities. So does that make the HK activists hypocrites for accepting support from the US, despite that the US has its own oppression problems? No, of course not. The HK activists have their own cause they're busy with, and the US is not really their scene. Nobody can speak up against all everyone else's issues. I don't expect you nor anyone to be able to carry that.

A popular slogan among the anti-racist movement is 'silence is oppression', so yes he absolutely does have an obligation to stand up for a cause directly related to a company that he is cashing very large checks from. To do otherwise makes him complicit.

But that slogan doesn't mean it all falls for one man - it falls for all mankind, meaning if this is your cause, don't be silent. But people have different causes, so your cause may not be your (person #2) cause, or your (person #3) cause, or your cause (person #4) cause, etc. It just means that if it's your cause, don't be silent about it - but it's up to whichever person whose cause it is

(Maybe it's not his scene, or it's not something he has researched since he's been busy with his own troubles, etc.)

Nobody cares because the US isn't there

This is kinda hard to believe it's the first time in the Premier League history

Manchester United is the first team in Premier League history to win four consecutive games by 3+ goals

Not anymore. Because Bolsonaro has been promoting it, that increased demand with supplies limited, so the price has been going up.

Got any source for that claim?

https://www.ft.com/content/d7b80487-e15c-49fc-bfe6-b3ec09f55d48

"Governments including those in the US and Brazil have lined up to purchase hydroxychloroquine from Indian companies, which are also under pressure from New Delhi to supply the drug to frontline health workers. Surging demand has pushed up prices across the supply chain."

I didn't see him standing up to Nike for using sweatshops and cheap overseas labor to make the shoes he was endorsing.

Do people assume that because one stands up for a cause, that it's one's responsibility to stand up for every cause

hydroxychloroquine is cheap

Not anymore. Because Bolsonaro has been promoting it, that increased demand with supplies limited, so the price has been going up. People paying more for what can turn out to be non-effective

The test "has come out and it's positive," Bolsonaro said in a television interview from his residence in capital Brasilia, adding that he was taking hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat the illness.

Lol, when he said Covid-19 is just a small flu, why is he taking special precautions

What about those poor people he told it's just a small flu, but don't have access to special precautions like he does

Why was she awarded the child after the divorce

Hate to break it to you, Biden is running against trump.

Biden is running for his family and for China... not against Trump or for Americans

Don't speak for Americans - Americans will speak for themselves when they vote

If Americans vote him in, then that means he runs for Americans

If Americans don't vote him in, then that means he doesn't

But it's the Americans who will speak for themselves

its representation of liberty and justice for all?

In representation. In practice, it's not liberty and justice for all. That's why people are protesting in the first place

The why/practice is more important than the representation - that should be kept in mind

The law stipulates that trials can be held behind closed doors without juries, with offenders subject to a maximum of a life sentence.

And police could search your home without needing search warrants

Lol, y'know China done messed up when even a Chinese company is keeping out

Some students' countries back home are poor countries with not good internet, not good libraries nearby (especially advanced reference books), maybe even hard to survive just day-to-day

Not only is that environment make it difficult to learn and keep up with the class, but they're also at a disadvantage compared to their classmates who have a better country and have access to better resources.

The learning environments are not equal, and that's just not fair when everybody in the same class are graded in the same curve

Chinese freedom of expression has always been tightly controlled by the Communist Party

How can it be "freedom" when it's tightly controlled

That is an oxymoron if ever seen one, lol

Those students are not free-loading - they're paying to be there

Tell me an state where deaths are actually going up.

Sure. Here's Texas:

https://i.imgur.com/odlECKd.jpg

And here's Florida:

https://i.imgur.com/sRXsWBa.jpg

Show me actual ICU capacity vs usage and usage in usual years.

This one is a little harder to find because of reasons below. But you'll get the idea why:

"Texas won’t specify where hospital beds are available as coronavirus cases hit record highs"

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/02/texas-hospital-capacity-coronavirus/

"Under pressure, Florida will start reporting how many people hospitalized with COVID"

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article243899367.html

"Arizona Reports ICUs Are 91% Full As Nearly 1 in 4 Tested for Coronavirus Came Back Positive"

https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-icu-91-percent-capacity-1-4-coronavirus-cases-positive-1515436

And it was a complete disaster. Hospitals were basically completely empty

The overflow sites turned out to be underused and not as needed, but NY hospitals themselves were overwhelmed

"Faced with a crush of patients, besieged NYC hospitals struggle with life-or-death decisions - Some have activated ‘do-not-resuscitate’ policies for coronavirus patients, canceled all but the most urgent surgeries and abandoned the use of isolation rooms."

https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-show-how-new-york-is-grappling-with-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3

"A shortage of hospital beds and ventilators has forced some hospitals to ration out resources — and in the most extreme cases, form a plan as to what patients will get treatment over others."

"One doctor in New York City told Business Insider Today that deciding which patients to intubate or ventilate is "a matter of when, not if. We will have to make those decisions in New York very soon, and our goal is to put that day off as far as possible."

And in the US, daily deaths have constantly been going down for more than 2 and a half months.

It's going down on the US as a whole only because the hard-hit states that took the virus seriously like the Northeast states have now got the virus under control. But the other states, it's now surging up

And in the future, those other states surging up may surpass the previous states that got it under control - resulting in the daily deaths going up again. So this isn't over yet, stay tuned

What's real tangible about the surging cases is that the hospital ICU (Intensive Care Unit) rooms are filling up again. In states where the hospitalization cases are surging up, ICU spaces are nearing towards 100% capacity

https://i.imgur.com/QpjT54M.png

And there's no going around that real-world complication - an ICU room occupied is one less ICU room for another patient. They're already suspending non-emergency and elective surgeries to keep ICUs available (so one has to live with that pain for the time-being until the surge dies down)

If they reach ICU over-capacity, then that means not everybody would be getting the care they need. Healthcare workers would be faced with the horrible decision - which patients they can help, and which patients they cannot help. Since not everybody would be getting the care they need, more people will die than necessary - and the death rates will go up again

That's what happens when hospitalization cases surge to fill up ICU rooms overcapacity. So stop the surge

The lockdowns were a mistake from the start. Should have kept the economy open taking all precautions possible.

If they had taken the South Korean example: by testing everybody early on, in order to isolate those who already have it. By taking it very seriously from the start, South Korea was able to avoid a lockdown

But now some people don't even wanna wear masks. How can they keep the economy open when not everybody is taking all precautions possible