No, that's not the only problem. Another problem is that this guy was providing fake ID, something clearly illegal.
Read what the article and the Ann piece says. He didn't provided the fake ID, the police "became aware of it", which means they probably searched his wallet or something like that.
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The only problem here is that someone was detained without a reason, because foreigner, and when this person provided an ID as the law requires, the police not pleased started to look for anything else to arrest this guy for.
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Posted in: The current pension system -- last updated in the 1980s -- should be expanded to include part-time workers. Forty years ago, single-income households made up the overwhelming majority in Japan. Since then, families have become more diverse. See in context
Someone please make her stop saying those things, the government might actually do it, and there is absolutely nothing good about it.
There is already the National Pension, which EVERYBODY, including part time workers pay. The big difference is that "regular employees" have to pay an EXTRA "employee" pension on top of the national pension, and this is going to come from the salary of the part time worker, not their employers, so no, don't do it, it will just reduce the income of part time workers for a pension scam that is going to make them lose money in the long run.
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Yet another violation of human rights by the Japanese Government.
The executive really think that human rights are more like suggestions than actual rights.
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If Ghosn used his own money to fund his 1% lifestyle instead of stealing from Nissan, he wouldn't be in this position today. Greed and arrogance was his downfall.
Even if he did steal money from Nissan, the violations of human rights from part of the Japanese Judiciary are still there, and cannot be justified.
To be honest, with a working justice system, this case should be over, and Ghosn should already have a sentence by now... but he doesn't even got a court date, and he had to live with restricted rights for an unspecified amount of time, even thou he hasn't been found guilty of any crime.
Ghosn could be the worst scumbag of the earth, but his treatment is still unjustified.
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He is an alleged WHITE COLLAR criminal! ALLEGED!
That's 100% the thing. Even if he is guilty, the treatment he has received is ridiculous for the crime he supposedly committed.
But that's the way "Justice" works in this country. Basically they expect you to declare you are guilty, and go for whatever deal the prosecutor offers you, and be done with it. People who claim to be innocent are treated as the worst kind of criminal.
That's how Japan gets it's 99.4% conviction rate.
Because even if there is a chance for you to get an innocent verdict, which is small in the first place, it will take years, and it isn't probably even worth all the time, money, physical and mental health.
The way I see it, Carlos Ghosn broke under the pressure, like many do under this inhumane system, but instead of just going along with what the prosecutors where saying, he choose to escape.
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"He wanted to escape punishment for his own crime. There is no way to justify this act,"
So, by saying things like that, it would sound like the MoJ has already internally found Ghosn culpable of a crime. Which is very "MoJ" like, since they are always have "internal" rules and regulations that go over the actual laws of the country.
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I like how ironic is the ministry of justice the one talking about how cool and good is the justice system in Japan, when the problem of the judiciary is how in bed they are with the MoJ.
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He lost weight. There is no objective evidence he has subjected to "torture", or any other element of the above.
Basically everyone, including you, knows what happens in those interrogation rooms with the police, because even if there is no evidence for this case in particular, there are just way too many witnesses and stories about it, that it is safe to assume it is also the case in the Carlos Ghosn detention.
Basically they are subjected to constant psychological torture to get them to sign confessions.
One of them quickly accepts at least partial responsibility, apologizes, swears they would never do it again. The other is all unrepentant. Why are you surprised that the last guy got hit on the hardest?
If the police were doing their job as they should, it should be the same, but we aren't talking about objective justice, but subjective gut feelings here.
So, if you say "I'm sorry" then you don't get the Japanese prosecutors to go against you?
I mean, that's the same kind of wrong as the one presented in the movie "Soredemo, boku wa yattenai" in which a pervert gets free if they say they are sorry, and someone who did nothing wrong goes to jail for saying they are not culpable.
The basics of how you find intention are for the most part subjective, that's why prosecutors love financial crimes, specially tax related. They can go either way depending on how they feel about someone.
In other words, being "unrepentant" shows nothing if a crime hasn't even been proved, but prosecutors in Japan always asume there is a crime, that's why they push for forced confessions, "to get over with this".
Since it is very far from clear there is even such a violation, clearly it is premature to discuss this leg.
Read the bold. And I really like this moving of goalposts and burden of proof. it's sufficient for you to throw accusations, while I must rebutt them in detail one by one. It really should be you demonstrating that the abuses not only exist, but they exist at a high rate.
You don't have to rebut anything. I mean, unless you are part of the prosecutor team, you really have no evidence yourself about anything, and even then you are doing assumptions.
Difference is, my assumptions are done by how the Japanese justice system regularly works. If you want proof that tomorrow there is going to be morning followed by night your life must be stressful.
Also, doing things like not allowing suspects to be with their own families while on bail is extremely irregular, and that is a clear violation of human rights.
Prima facie, it is difficult to see where an anti-competition law would unambiguously contradict the Constitution. And if there is no unambiguous contradiction, the executive is allowed discretion.
Actually there are clear abuses, not even by law, but by practice of this. The most common is copyright law.
Let me put it this way, its not even the constitution, but laws in the books gets disregarded and re-interpreted as the executive likes, even if the law isn't really that subjective.
But here is also the case, you need to see how many times the courts basically go with whatever the executive says compared with other courts around the world. The Japanese court is said to be one of the more "conservative courts" because they just about never go against the executive. That culture is a problem, because you have basically no real instrument to fight the executive in this country. If the executive always do interpretations of laws in their favor, and the courts are always going to agree, they can basically do whatever they want.
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Next time, try being concrete about exact which human rights were violated.
Articles 5, 7, 8, 11, 13 and 16 of the universal declaration of human rights.
By the way, running to another country to avoid prosecution is also a Human Right by the universal declaration of human rights (Article 14).
Guess where most interrogations are held.
As for the length of the interrogation, I don't have numerical information on hand. However, the key factor would clearly be how fatigued you are, and their courts have rolled with 24 hours without sleep (not 30, though) and have accepted the need for "long" interrogations.
Yep, legalistic bable.
I would like to see how common in Germany are over 12 hours sessions for suspects that have not even been charged with a crime, without any contact with the outside world for months, and where in the sessions police constantly ignores what the suspect says just to get a confession as they already planed, and try to entrap suspects into signing a confession they didn't even said just to "get out of this".
And even if it was common in Germany, it is still a violation of human rights, and not a reason to say it is ok.
In my experience, such statements are made by people with weak legal education that have swallowed the complaints of "human rights lawyers" whole, without suspecting them of bias, ever reading the judgments themselves, or understanding the legal principles used.
Do you know the history of the Ministry of Justice, and how the Judiciary was before the war a branch of the Ministry of Justice, and even thou this relation has legally disappeared between the courts and the Ministry of Justice, the basic culture pre-war and the relationship between the 2 remains very well intertwined, and how this has been criticized by legal experts in the country as one of the main problems with the Judiciary in Japan?
Because your comment makes me think you don't.
And I'm not talking about "human rights lawyers", this culture of sucking up to the Executive by the Judiciary is criticized by corporate lawyers as to not allowing the challenge of anti-competitive laws and regulations that are in clear violation of the constitution, because they are going to lose by the Judiciary making justifications as to why the executive has the right to do whatever they want, than to actually try to interpret the constitution for its merits.
Not to mention that even in cases where the supreme court finds something to be in violation of the constitution, they lack the power to actually force real changes, and just give "recommendations" for the law to change.
While it is rare, one would be hard pressed to quickly recall someone that was actually imprisoned elsewhere. The example of Tsunehiko Maeda has been brought up
He was arrested for fabrication of physical evidence. The cases I'm talking about are confessions written by the police, with words that the suspect never even said, and used basically psychological torture to get the suspects to sign these fabricated "confessions", because this is known to happen and there aren't any arrests, at least that I know from all of the cases that afters years the suspects were proven innocent.
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It will be tough for foreign people but not the Japanese. Look at the Japan post scam. Has anyone been arrested yet? NOPE!
I don't like this narrative that somehow Japanese get a free pass, because that's just not true, there are more cases of Japanese having their human rights completely violated by the "justice" system of Japan.
The people who get a free pass are the well connected with the Japanese Government.
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Now that we know what a good liar he is, he might well have deliberately chosen to not eat so he'll look more pitiable.
Wow, that's just waco conspiracy theory grade. Basically people are going to paint others are they want, like yourself painting Ghosn as some criminal mastermind or something like that.
The truth of the matter is that in this case the character of the persons involved is irrelevant. The fact that there were very clear violations of basic human rights is the real matter.
I don't know if you are aware, but even the worst kind of people deserve basic human rights.
They can just use the first charge and ask the judge to detention him for 180 days. I don't mean post-indictment/pretrial detention, I mean preindictment detention.
It can also be put together by having lower standards for the indictment - all countries have post indictment, pretrial detention.
And the terms of those things are VERY different.
They aren't allowed to put the suspect into an interrogation room in order to force a confession for 12 hours straight without they lawyer being present.
That is basically torture, but if you just think that torture is an OK, there you go.
Have you noticed how long the sentences are in the United States
And that's also wrong, so what?
Because America does something bad, that give Japan the clear to do even worse?
One of the biggest differences with the American Legal system is that even thou there are still injustices at all levels of the system, there are actual ways to fight, and you have a chance to go against the system.
In Japan... not so much. The Judiciary is completely in bed with the executive, there is very clear intensives to just get convictions at any cost. I mean, even in the few cases that have proved very clearly that there was entrapment, that the confession was forced and the real perpetrator comes to light, or something like that, no one goes to jail for that, nor the police, nor the prosecutors, nor anyone.
Many times they don't even get an apology.
And also the horrible part of this case, is that this is so obvious a coordinated attack from people within Nissan with influence in the Japanese Government. I mean, the way he was set-up by Nissan calling him to Japan, just to get detained at the airport. The way prosecutors do not even try to find something about Saikawa even thou there is pretty good evidence that he also committed some sort of financial crime.
The fact that Ghosn just continued to get indicted for supposedly crimes that happened decades ago, without much evidence or relevance to his previous indictments.
And the fact that Japan has done similar things in the past, like the take down of Horiemon.
But yeah, lets just talk in legalistic babble about Ghosn crimes avoiding everything I just talked about.
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He couldn’t handle the loss of his lavish, jet-setting lifestyle.
Now you are the one making assumptions. He wasn't even allowed to see his wife, and lets be honest, even if they didn't had a case against him, the possibility of years of jail time was very much not just posible but probable. Not to mention the psychological torture and violation of human rights he already experienced while in "detention".
I think most people in his situation would just think about themselves, because most people aren't heroes, and that's ok.
As for his claim that he couldn’t get a fair trial, I disagree. It would have been the most high profile case of its kind in Japan with the global media watching.
I'm a little bit surprised that you believe so much in the legal system in Japan, given the fact that even in this high profile case there were very clear violations of human rights in place.
He probably did committed some financial crime of some sort that has to do with taxes, because basically everyone of us has, even if they aren't aware of, committed some taxed related evasion or lack of payment.
There is a reason why when the Police couldn't find anything of substance to get Al Capone, they just tried him for tax related crimes.
Something similar also happened with the Horiemon case, and he went to jail even thou it was once again a very high profile case.
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Next oil and nuclear requires further vast amount of energy to refine them.
Coal power plants also requires vast amount of energy to grind them into fine powder to burn them cleaner.
Yes, but not as much or more than the energy coal or nuclear produces.
If it required as much or more, it would be a stupid way to produce energy.
Transportation and refinement isn't the same as production.
Not to mention that transportation is also required for hydrogen. 1kg of hydrogen weights the same as 1kg of coal.
That's why doing electrolysis to get hydrogen for energy production is stupid.
It takes 55 kW/h to produce 1kg of hydrogen, and 1kg of hydrogen produces about 33.33 kW/h.
It is a waste of resources if your main goal is energy production. If your goal is energy storage, or some other benefits that hydrogen combustion brings, then that's a different story.
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That by means of the process of electrolysis with water, it is the source of energy totally clean to 100%.
Getting hydrogen from electrolysis as an energy source is completely stupid.
The amount of energy you require for the electrolysis itself is actually more than the energy you will get by the hydrogen combustion of the generated hydrogen.
Remember kids, conservation of energy.
That's exactly why people who do not understand basic physics should not be in charge of making energy policy for the country.
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@Luis.... so you your agenda is more Nuclear Power Plants. Hey.... more power to ya!
I actually don't have an agenda. I don't care if there aren't more Nuclear Power Plants (Outside of the fact that my electric bill has gone up because the one nuclear plant that provided about half of the electricity of Sapporo is out, and we are still paying for it even if its in an infinite "maintenance" state).
I kind of understand that most people are dumb and scared of nuclear enough, that even if it is the best way of producing energy, it will never regain its place in this world because of religious like thinking, so I don't have my hopes up for it.
Not to mention that I'm not advocating for the government to force people to do things I would like them to do.
What pisses me off are hypocrites that pretend to be "worried" about the climate, and climate change, but ignore science that could solve all of their worries, because in fact they really don't worry that much about it, unless it is a talking point for some "green revolution" crap.
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So many people talk about Solar like it needs to be PERFECT first.... this isn't a perfect world and it will take time and research before it gets even close.
It had to be good enough to be a viable alternative. Right now it isn't really a reliable alternative, and to be honest, there aren't many good signs that it will ever be.
Solar lives in a paradox where when people most require electricity is exactly at the times when solar cannot produce them.
Right now there isn't any real alternative to Ion-Li batteries, and we are reaching kind of the limit of what is posible to do with Ion-Li batteries. Unless there is a breakthrough in battery technology, it really doesn't matter how good solar panels get, it will never be a good enough alternative.
Also, I have no problem with more people using solar, more power to you. What I have a problem is with people trying to use the government to push their ideological views of the world.
Forcing all new homes to have solar power isn't going to do anything else than rise the cost of living.
Japan would still need to use coal a lot, unless, like I said, the anti-nuclear activists stopped their anti-science propaganda, and we could re-start many of the now almost a decade long stopped reactors.
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I live in Tokyo.... our house has Solar Panels and they totally cover the cost of our electric needs
Let me ask you this. First, are you completely off the grid? Because somehow I don't think so. I think it may cover most if not all your electric usage in the day, if it is sunny enough... night is another story, it depends 100% on your battery capacity, charging speed, and the life remaining on your batteries, also how much they were able to charge during the day.
That's why even the more hardcore solar power enthusiast still has a normal power grid installation in their homes along side the solar panels.
Solar panels, are really cool, but unless battery technology improves, it is still kind of unreliable.
The government needs to Mandate that all new homes be built with the use of solar energy in mind. But they don't do this.... maybe their coziness with large Power Companies is the problem.
So basically you want to make housing even more expensive... as a government mandate.
That's really going to help people struggling to get month by month. Also, once again, solar energy is unreliable.
For example, I live in Sapporo, and solar panels are basically dead weight during winter.
Day light is less than 10 hours a day, many days there are snow storms, so you will have to constantly take care of the panels so that they don't get blocked by the snow, and low temperatures lower the performance of solar panels.
If you all really cared that much about climate change, you wouldn't be against nuclear power, but your the truth of the matter is that for most of the people who are "going green", this concern has to do more with ideology than with a real concern for the planet's climate.
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I don't know why, but I have the feeling that this was supported by mainland china.
I mean, Ma Ying-jeou who is the face of this even was known and their party voted out of office because they started to be in bed with the communist party of China, and knowing that the communist party wants to basically invade Taiwan...
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Have you ever thought about where those payments are made and where the money ends up?
On the hands of the dynastic families of the old guard zaibatsu.
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The primary assertion about DST, as it names says, is that it will makes savings.
The problem is, there are scientific literature on the matter, and the higher the latitude the less it works, and in places like Japan, it will actually mean an economic loss, since only subtropical places show any kind of economical benefit from DST, and most of Japan will fall outside of this zone, not to mention that usage of air conditioner rises with DST.
DST has little to no benefits, and has a lot of drawbacks, which is why I cannot support at all DST, simply put, is an unnecessary effort that becomes a nuisance more than anything else.
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Abenomics is not perfect but still far better than DP's crazy austerity.
They are completely different beasts. Abenomics is trying to "ignite" the economic engine of Japan, while austerity was trying to fix the crazy expending and public debt.
Like it or not, payments on interests are going to just get bigger and bigger, and they are one of the reasons why taxes are going up, and it is a big reason for the economy not moving.
I would say that austerity is a less popular idea, because it means cuts and having to endure the "correction" phase, but in the most part it does the job.
Maybe you need to find a better job? I have had wage increases and bonus increases every year for the past three years.
Individual experiences may not apply to the vast majority of the economy.
It also depends on the industry you work, how well connected your company is, and how black or white it is.
Most of my friends (all Japanese, by the way) have never had a single wage increase since they were employed (Many of them have been working for 10 years or so).
Basically all those complaining bitterly about good economic news are those at the bottom working in unskilled jobs.
Not really, no. I'm actually thinking of leaving Japan because of how underpaid I am for what I do (Computer Vision R&D).
Not to mention that I've never had a single wage increase. All the "increases" I've had are because I changed jobs to a better paid one, but staying on the same job in this industry in Japan is carrier suicide.
A person's life is always in their own hands. This includes non-Japanese low wage earners who complain bitterly about life here, yet for some bizarre reason stay and swallow it
I'm starting to see this devolving into more of personal attacks. We are talking about the economy as a whole, not on particular cases, so stop going back to attack people calling them "low-skilled" as an insult.
I'm sorry to say this, but in a growing economy even low-skilled workers have salary rises.
Ah, so you're an English teacher with no other skills moaning that they haven't gotten a sweet, unlimited contract for teaching English. If your skills aren't increasing, why should you get more money?! An English teacher with a PhD is not better than an English teacher without a PhD.
Most English teachers in Japan don't even have a BA. In fact most native English teachers in Japan don't even have a brain.
I'm going to be honest. I also dislike English teachers in Japan, but this is just pure salt.
More great economic news! The anti-Japan crew is having another miserable day haha. Loss after loss, day after day
I truly wish you were right...
Just a few days ago I was talking with the CEO and CTO of my company about the economy in Japan, and they both agree that the future is kind of blink.
Unless you are a well connected company, chances are, regulations and taxes are going to kill your business.
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So we are finally back to the point prior to the recession created by the consumption tax hike of the 2014.
Now let's see how much times it takes to get back from next year's recession created by the new consumption tax hike.
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Why are you moving the discussion goalposts Luis? The issue discussed was contamination as a result of the explosion , not casualties.
I wasn't even aware that "contamination" was the goalpost. I thought we were talking about people's fear of nuclear power and radiation, and I was just showing how nuclear power isn't as dangerous as, for example, a gas plant even in the case of a catastrophic accident.
Also, not sure if you are aware, but when a gas plant explodes it also contaminates its environment, and many of the gases released just go to contribute their part to climate change... so yeah.
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Yes, and the policies have done that. Under the current governor, the Japanese economy has experienced its second longest growth streak in the postwar era, corporate profits hit record highs and there is basically zero joblessness. What's your point?
GDP is stagnant, Wages are stagnant, Poverty is on the rise...
But yeah, sure, joblessness is down, mostly because the working population is also down, but sure, that doesn't matter.
What? Rich investors on the stock markets are making money, well, I think that's all that matters in an economy.
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Well obviously most people don’t agree with you Luis.
Most people also do not understand nor they care to understand particle physics, so I'm not surprised.
The anti-nuclear lobby provides an easy to digest answer for the public ignorance in these subjects, and as such it is obviously popular.
I've said it before, but the main flaw of Nuclear power is the fact that it is easy to fear but difficult to actually understand.
Also a lot of “facts” and “science” through history has turned out to be lies and deliberate misleading of the public by scientists and the government using falsified “data” to support “facts” that later killed many thousands of people. THIS is actual history!
There is a slim but considerable difference between been an skeptic to been a conspiracy theorist.
People from the Flat Earth society use exactly that same logic to justify their ideas.
You are one of the few who believes what the government says and believes the data that they present. I have good reason to not believe everything the LDP says.
As I've said, it's not a blind faith of what the government says. Anyone can measure radiation by themselves, and anyone who understands how radiation works can reach the conclusion that in this instance the government isn't lying.
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The BOJ always say that their policies make everything better, and the economy stronger, and that everything is very well planed and there will be always good results.
30 years latter, even thou reality shows nothing like those promises, BOJ continues to do the same promises.
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Then there is the issue of your safety at Chernobyl – where the waters are murkier. Local tour companies insist that, after 30 years, the site is safe to visit. By contrast, Ukrainian officials have suggested that Pripyat will not be inhabitable for another 20,000 years. The crews which maintain the concrete sarcophagus that keeps the exploded reactor in check work strictly monitored five-hour days over the course of a month, then take 15 days off.
> Luis are you sure everyone else is wrong?
Science is not about what most people say, or what the government says, but what is the reality of the matter.
For example, I said "Chernobyl", the main city, not "Pripyat", the city created basically just to accommodate workers of the power plant.
There are actually people living in Chernobyl today.
Pripyat is a different story, but saying that the place won't be inhabitable for 20,000 years is ridiculous. Basically that is equivalent to the point when basically every single radioisotope from the disaster will disappear, but that is not at all equivalent to what should make a place inhabitable.
However that does not change the fact that the explosion that blew up the building resulted in radioactive particles being released in to the open and the resulting contamination of Fukushima and neighboring prefectures. Comparing it to a gas plant explosion is way off, you know that.
Actually no, I don't know that. In gas plant explosions a lot of people actually die.
There have been gas plant explosions that have basically erased a whole village of the face of the planet, not to mention that even in minor gas plant explosions, causalities are common.
In this case... no one died from this accident. And that is the hard truth. No one died, and there has not been any proven related deaths from the radiation released by the plant.
Immeasureable Tragedy struck and the failings of the govt / nuclear industry pre & post, impacted tremendously and they must accept a large dose of blame. Educating the population by open divulgence and discussion and dedicated committment to offer BIG help to Fukushima citizens would enhance their future prospects considerably.
I'm not saying there is no blame in what the government or Tepco did, and I'm not trying to justify any kind of negligence, but I would say that these kind of actions are rampant on almost every other industry, but no one cares in those instances.
In the instance of the nuclear industry, the anti-nuclear lobby has successfully fueled this almost conspiracy theory about the government "hiding the truth" about the nuclear disaster, and that the nuclear disaster is somehow "way worse" than what the government wants to admit, which is complete non-sense, and that's what I'm saying that even if that is not your intention, sadly because of this topic, it gets used in that way very easily, so we most be very careful with our words in this topic so that they do not get taken out of context.
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You seem to have a very positive view of radiation. You almost present radiation as something that you can bathe in and it won’t be harmful to you.
I dislike this false dichotomy in which if I don't share your irrational fear of radiation, it must mean that I'm in love with radiation or something along those lines.
My view on radiation is nothing more than what I learned while studying particle physics.
"Radiation", for instance, is not a single item, but a catagory of a range of elements, each with a specific half-life. Strontium-90, for instance, is 28.9 years. Caesium-137 has a half-life of about 30.17 years. Uranium-235 has a half-life of 703.8 million years.
Radiation actually is not a category of elements, those would be "Radioactive elements". Radiation simply refers to the transmission of energy from waves or particles.
In this case, the type of Radiation released by Radioactive elements is particle radiation, which divides in alpha radiation (Helium-4 at high speed), beta radiation (electrons at high speed), Neutron radiation, and electromagnetic radiation in the form of gamma radiation (photons at high speed).
Radiation can be measured by the rate of decay, which is the rate radiation is released. The lower is the half-life, the higher is the radiation, and the higher is the half-life, the lower is the radiation.
Let me put it this way, Uranium-235 is a magnitudes of time less radioactive than one of the most common radioisotopes that were released by this accident, Iodine-131, which has a half-life of 8 days.
This makes it very radioactive, but also means that it disappears very quickly. Another of these highly radioactive isotopes is Tellurium-129m, with a half-life of 6 days.
Strontium-90 and Caesium-137 are way less radioactive than these 2 radioisotopes, and Uranium-235 is WAY less radioactive, even if that seems counter intuitive because it is used by reactors, but in fact in makes sense, because since it is a highly stable radioisotope, it is easier to use in reactors.
We should go and walk around and grow stuff and eat it and take our children there to live and......
oh wait, I can’t...its all barricaded up and theres hazard signs and the area won’t be decomissioned as a nuclear meltdown poisoned zone for 100 years....
Do you see the problem here?
First, where are you referring to?
If you are referring to the core of the reactor, then maybe, but if you are referring to the towns near the reactor... not really.
No one in power has ever said that those places will be non accessible for "100 years", that's just crazy.
For the love of the world, even Chernobyl is accessible nowadays.
But what experts on this field have said about these zones is, the have criticized the Japanese Government for their over reaction to the radiation, and their so called "No-go zones", since many of the places with these forced evacuation statuses have relatively safe levels of radiation equivalent to levels of radiation seen in nature in other places of the world.
Not to mention, that people are so irrationally afraid of radiation, that even people far away from those zones did "voluntary evacuations" with nothing to back them up, but irrational fear.
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The government lied about Fukushima and the Nuclear Plant and the radiation and the disaster MANY times in the past.
I hear this argument A LOT, and I have yet to found one specific instance in which the government actually lied about Fukushima or the Nuclear Plant.
As I said before, most of what I've seen is people assuming that the "government must be lying" because of some statement about radiation they do not understand.
The other instance in which I've seen people saying that the government lied about Fukushima is when basically there is a correction on something. Mostly this happened early when people weren't even able to approach the reactors because of the tsunami, and for the most part they had to do estimations about things, which after a while turned out not to be true.
Saying that they didn't believe there was any meltdown, but then it turned out there actually was is not lying about it, since either statement was just based on speculation.
Human beings are scared of radiation and nuclear hazards and are also scared of lying governments.
As I've been saying all this time, it is true that people are scared of radiation, but as I've pointed out, for the most part those worries only exist because they do not understand how actually radiation works, and because of this they tend to agree more with anti-nuclear activist which spread actual lies and misinformation about radiation and nuclear hazards than the government.
Fear is the problem here.
Cool...good to know the images of Dai ichi reactor exploding i saw on TV back im March 2011 were just rumors.
Those weren't "nuclear explosions", they were explosions from hydrogen that started to accumulate in the building as a product of an uncontrolled reaction in the reactor.
This is the kind of fear tactic used by the anti-nuclear lobby, trying to insinuate that "if there is an explosion in a nuclear plant, it means everything is messed up, and is just like a nuclear bomb", which it isn't.
Obviously having an explosion on a power station isn't a good thing, but I don't see people making an scandal when a gas plant explodes.
In fact, its almost like people see it as "obvious" for a gas plant to explode, and do not read too much into it.
but that's what you get when you cross Govt Inc with Nuclear Inc - a stain that's hard to remove. That and people's own selfishness.
When you make an argument like this, it really sound like you are trying to justify irrationality and awful behavior.
The idea that "Nuclear Inc" is bad and evil is almost implied in your response, which sucks horribly, because this kind of irrational hate and fear of nuclear power is what kind of fuels the fearful and hateful responses to the people of Fukushima.
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