Looks like SK is going back to 1980s and 1970s when Japanese goods was banned for political reasons. Gradually such thing is happening. I would not be surprised if Japanese entertainment and anything that portrays Japanese culture be banned again by those politicians.
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I think Choe needs to study a little harder at school and learn that Japan had nothing to do with the splitting up of the Korean peninsula after WWII. He can thank the UN/US/USSR for that.
Unless he attend other country school, he will not be able to learn what you taught since in SK the anti-Japanese education is the only thing that kids learn.
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Well...it is not surprise to hear that. The JT itself some weeks ago showed an article where ordinary SK citizens didn't agree to Mon administration.
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Personally I don't think Mon has the intention to give up his pride. If he really wanted good relation with Japan, he would cause trouble for a thing that was not harming Korea since Japan didn't stop exports to SK. From my point of view, I think his intention is to join to NK and PRC. Now if someone ask if such thing will be good for Korean people, I would tell that just the time will tell if such move was a good thing or not. Personally, I don't think it will good to Korean citizens.
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Talking about SK, Mon is in a situation that he has to choose between keeping his pride on or accepting he was wrong. Based on last thread SK has not gotten support neither from the US, neither from WTO. If we considered such facts, thing in the peninsula can be worsen. Boycott is going on in many part of SK, but until when Mon will be able to deceive those people? I say that because comments from facebook and even youtube there are Koreans who already are questioning Mon administration and start to doubt the reasons behind this "pro SK thing". The number are few, but it is starting to grow the number among them. There are even a discussion filled with insults from SK users toward SK citizens who don't agree and neither support Mon administration.
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It seems to me Trump is in a situation that he has to choose what country he should support. NK or Japan? If he is smart enough, he will go Japan's side. Now if he keeps trying good talks with Kim, such move will not have great success.
We all know that Kim has no intention to change his way of thinking, so it is obvious such attempt to improve relations with North is a waste of time for sure.
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Kono san said so himself, the 1965 Treaty only covers property claims, has nothing to do with damages claim.
Regardless of what this 1965 covers, after many decades has passed, do SK citizens really need this money again?
Can't SK citizens overcome their hardships that they say suffered during colonial times by their own?
If money and apology were such necessary thing, why did you reject the 1965 and 2015 agreement?
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From the moment SK government wanted to involve the US on this problem, they admitted they as government were not able to deal with this situation that they created for themselves.
Such relation problem would be resolved if the SK government had admitted their wrongdoings committed during 2004 till 2019 where 156 cases of illegal exports to North Korea were made( things that SK minister acknowledged ).
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The two countries in 2015 agreed to "finally and irreversibly" settle the protracted bilateral row, with Japan issuing an apology to former comfort women for their suffering and providing 1 billion yen ($9.5 million) to a foundation meant to help the victims financially.
Thanks for this detailed information. Through this one new questions can be discussed here like:
If Koreans want Japan to apologize and compensate them, why are they asking for same thing even after this agreement be proposed? Unless the SK government wanted to refuse in order to keep her people from domestic issues, I don't see any reason to refuse such agreement.
If Koreans don't want 2015 and 1965 agreement and don't accept apologies from Japan, so what they actually want?
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@Mitsuo - This is brought out time and time again. Former Korean president Kim Dae Jung offered apologies as well as $19 million dollars in funds in the early 2000s.
So if this is true, so I can say that it is a very similar way Japan did in 2015. Japan apologized and made agreement in that year offering a great amount of money to Korea. Based on your comment I can conclude such demand made by Koreans today doesn't make any more sense.
If she(Korea) reject such agreement, so it is her problem only politely speaking.
Taiwan also has its own version of 'comfort women' statues. They are nowhere near as vocal as SK, as they are too busy focusing on China. All of those countries you mentioned has much lower numbers of victims than SK
It doesn't really matter if they have their own version of "CW". The question remains: Are you not strong enough to move on? Taiwan and the Philippines decided to move on, how about Korea?
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That's silly, no one is asking individual Japanese people to apologize.
Hello! Yes, but when I ask this, I was basing on comments made by Koreans on YouTube and blogs demanding The Japanese(citizen) to apologize for what our ancestors did. When I was in US to study English long ago I met some Korean student and they always tried to mention past things to me and by doing so I asked this question and they just kept silent as if their argument was gone. So I interpreted it as "someone who wants me to apologize". If the problem was just regarding government, I don't think they would talk that way. But maybe it was just my impression since English is and was not my first language.
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Why do I need to apologize for what people did in the past when actually I was not even born?
Have those who are demanding apology from Japan apologized to Vietnamese who were humiliated during the Vietnam War?
Regardless of being sincere or not, are you not strong enough to move on like Taiwan, the Philippines, and Indonesia for instance?
Do you really need someone to apologize to move on?
That is are some simple question to reflect. I myself don't see the act of apologizing a thing that is a very important thing. If I think of several people who made wrongdoings to me and didn't apologize, I will not have a life. After all, life is short and taking your short time to express hate to other country is a waste of time because this same time you could expend making a good relation with your Japanese friends.
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nigelboyToday 11:44 am JST
If anyone cared about reading the Foreign Ministry website, they reference certain incidents since July such as parking a vehicle near embassy and then setting it on fire and several students entering Japanese consulate in Pusan demonstrating.
This is also in addition to the several planned demonstrations scheduled all across cities in the next few days, namely the recently established comfort women day (8/14) and their so-called liberation day the day after.
The place is very scary with the above. At least the Foreign Ministry has done their job.
Thanks for information. So it means Japanese citizens were aimed. That is way regrettable.
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kurisupisuToday 12:18 pm JST
This is so laughable!
The suggestion that Japanese people are at risk is farcical.
Firstly, Where is the proof?
The reports that Japanese have been attacked or injured?
It is just an advice to prevent some risks of attack or someone get injured. Nobody got till now, but the probability to happen exist.
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Such advice that was stated by Japanese government is a very prudent advice.
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Actually this kind of protest has nothing to do with environmental issues. In fact, before Tokyo was chosen to held the Olympic Games, Korea and China opposed with an excuse that "Japan should care about the past and by not doing it Japan would show lack of humanity" what is joke considering the fact that both countries never apologized to their victims(Vietnam, Tibetan, and so on).
This protest is the same one what we have seen recently. In other words, it been orchestrated by K government. None of those protesters are worry about the world. They just care about their pride and nothing else.
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Agreed that both sides are overly proud and extremely stubborn.
It depends on how you see this scenery. I would not use the word "stubborn" for Japan, but use the adjective "patient". For the rest of the word being removed from white-list country is not a big deal. If for instance Japan removes Argentina from his white-list country, do you really think Argentina government will make protest and burn Japanese flag? I doubt she would. Actually SK is acting this way because she knows it is the way to distract people from her domestic issues(eg: corruption, unemployment, etc...) and not because Abe is being unfair.
Anyway in all european news this regional feud have no importance.
Most of Japanese people are enjoying their vacation right now while Korean people are protesting against Japanese and Japan. People who work with me have not even mention about it and they are living a normal life like anybody else.
Maybe Japan and South Korea should wake up and realize that we live in 2019
You would be right to say that if Japan kept asking another country to apologize and compesate, but Japan does care about it.
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@old man - Solely blaming one side in a dispute is a quick way to lose all credibility, in any debate.
I will ask again. Why do you guys think Japan is wrong after SK minister acknowledged 156 cases of illegal exports to NK?
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Seoul had vowed retaliation while accusing Tokyo of weaponizing trade to retaliate over political rows stemming from their wartime history.
After South Korea minister acknowledged 156 cases of illegal exports to North Korea that was reported on JT some days ago, such decision from Japanese government was more than correct.
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South Korean Trade Minister Sung Yun-mo said the government decided to remove Japan from the country's 29-country "white list" because it has failed to uphold international principles while managing its export controls on sensitive materials.
Can someone who are expert on trade rules explain what international principles Japan broke?
From my point of view Japan didn't break any international rules by deciding to downgrade South Korea. Japan like any other country has the power of decision on what he wants to do and who he wants as member of his white list country. If Japan decides to take out Poland for example, he can do. If Japan decides to remove Argentina, he can do. None of those countries would protest since it is Japan choice.
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Well... It seems to me South Korea declared trade war against Japan. It also gives a meaning that South Koreans are not able to dialogue with Japan. Japanese side tried with a lot patience explain that it was not embargo, but still they kept thinking it was a embargo. Anyway, there is nothing to do with what South Korean government decided to. One thing I can tell, nobody will go to South Korea embassy and burn the Korean flag in Japan. The Japanese will only enjoy their time with grandparents and siblings during this period. They will even thinking about them as usual.
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The South "will never again lose to Japan", he said this week, thanking the public for countering Tokyo's actions with "one heart" in an apparent endorsement of the boycott.
*As i imagined* this protest is organized by their own government . Common citizens are just being used as a tool for those politics.
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Some lawmakers have pushed for a boycott of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and a travel ban on the country, citing supposed radiation risks from the Fukushima disaster eight years ago
Almost one decade has passed and we are still alive and living a normal life. Now, if they want to boycott the Olympic Games, so go ahead, but don't make excuse like this. Otherwise people around the world will think that your protest is moved by emotion and not for good reason.
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The latest moves followed a series of South Korean court rulings ordering Japanese firms to pay for forced labour -- an issue Tokyo says was resolved under the 1965 treaty normalizing their relations.
Certainly this "court" ignored agreements made in 1965 and 2015. Regardless of it, why should Japan pay more money to them when actually it(compensation) has already paid?
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The relationship between the neighbors has long been strained by issues stemming from Japan's brutal colonization of the peninsula in the first half of the 20th century.
Ok! My question is: So what?
If I think about how many people had made wrong things to me and didn't apologized for it, I will not live.
Unfortunately in cases like this example that I gave, we have to forget and move on.
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“Koreans have a habit of hiding or denying anything that is embarrassing or shameful.”
That is something very interesting. I remember when I went to the US to learn English that many Korean students acted that way. Obviously not all of them were like that, but I met a lot of them acting this way.
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Oyatoi, thanks to admited that Japan is one of the countries that most help other nations!!!
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Any help Japan gives is welcome; but as you can see, it is NOT particularly generous.
Japan not only invested in many countries, but also helps in area regarding humanitarian aid. Help is not only based on money, but also based on services and JSDF has made a good job wherever they serve by building hospital, bridge, schools, etc...
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AkieToday 09:20 pm JST
YuriOtani, then who are responsible ? Indians ?
It is so obvious that those who are responsible for what happened in the past are those who lived in that time. In other words, all of them are already dead.
oyatoi, China gave $1.5 trillions to Japanese people at the end of WW2, to help rebuild the destructed homeland. There is nothing in human history can even get remotely close to that.
PRC politically and socially speaking was a mess back in those days. The probability to China gives 1.5 trillion dollars is zero. Actually modern China got more help from Japan than Japan from China. Until 1972 China was a country with people living in extreme poverty and thanks to Japan many Chinese got benefits with jobs and high investment in infrastructure and other areas.
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Don't really understand for this need for constant apology.
Psychologically speaking the action of asking or demanding the partner or other individual to apologize shows that the person is weak and need someone to apologize for anything.
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