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Posted in: Prosecutors rip into Trump's ex-campaign chief Manafort as trial opens See in context

Let's see: The prosecution's evidence of Manafort's guilt is that he lives a lavish life style ("fancy clothes", owning and upgrading several real estate properties, etc.)

That's just the character evidence they kicked off with in the opening statements of the first day of the trial.

Relax, I'm sure they didn't charge him with hiding "tens of millions of dollars earned in Ukraine in offshore accounts" and "defrauding banks for loans" and "money laundering, failing to register as a foreign agent and witness tampering" for the next trial without any actual evidence.

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Posted in: Prosecutors rip into Trump's ex-campaign chief Manafort as trial opens See in context

This trial has nothing to do with Russia.........

Prosecutors also accuse him of lying to U.S. banks to obtain real estate loans in a bid to maintain a lavish lifestyle after his client, former pro-Russia Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, fell from power in 2014 and the money stopped.

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Posted in: Prosecutors rip into Trump's ex-campaign chief Manafort as trial opens See in context

Still not related to anything he did with or for Trump so don’t really care either way.

It's too soon to speculate, but it's long been rumored among the New York business community that Russia (and Saudi Arabia) were the only people willing to lend Trump money after his multiple bankruptcies and business failures. Before The Apprentice landed in his lap, he was really hurting for money.

I get the feeling that's when he met Manafort and this trial is foreshadowing a Trump tax evasion / money laundering trial, and not the collusion he keeps denying.

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Posted in: Prosecutors rip into Trump's ex-campaign chief Manafort as trial opens See in context

It is worth noting that this article fails to mention that Manafort is on trial for alleged tax evasion in 2005 and 2014; years before joining DJT's campaign.

2014 is only four years ago from now, and only two years before the campaign. That's not even half a decade.

Even Rosenstien said a few Fridays ago that no election outcome was affected by Russian interference in the last election cycle.

Nobody can really say with certainty how effective the interference was because the effects are on voter perceptions of the candidates. There's no way to actually measure that. But if you think things like the one-sided hacking into DNC servers and subsequent leaks via Wikileaks and paid trolls flooding the internet with misinformation has zero effect, I think you're not being honest with yourself.

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Posted in: Prosecutors rip into Trump's ex-campaign chief Manafort as trial opens See in context

So Tony Podesta is not being prosecuted?

Notice the Podesta name and is not even mentioned here, which makes this a perfect example of fake news.

It's being reported that Podesta was offered immunity to testify against Manafort. It's odd that they don't mention that fact here, but that doesn't mean the other facts mentioned are "fake."

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Posted in: Manafort is first ex-Trump aide to go on trial in Russia probe See in context

They were, specifically.

Not to the level they are now. Trump even goes back and forth to this day about having a sit down interview with Mueller. Why would he even consider that if he thinks the investigation is completely corrupt?

Who upon recommendation from Rosenstein to fire Mueller who then hires his best friend who is also close friends to the FBI James Comey.

There was no way around an investigation taking place, largely due to Trump's own actions. Someone was going to head it and people were going to be hired. Since when do close friendships matter? Unless you can point to evidence of actual corruption, you follow the rule of law. That's the breaks. If you remember, Clinton put up with multiple Benghazi investigations headed by people who obviously had it in for her. (Zero indictments were produced there for "witch hunt" comparison's sake.)

From the looks of how the left have been acting that everything is blowing up around them, they should take your advice.

This is just silly. The only damage the left can possibly take from this is counting their chickens before they hatch and focusing too much on Russia instead of issues before the midterm elections. Otherwise, we can just sit back with some popcorn and enjoy the fireworks courtesy of Trump and Co.

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Posted in: Manafort is first ex-Trump aide to go on trial in Russia probe See in context

Yes, Most liberals don’t see 17 Democratic lawyers 13 of them donating to Democrats and 4 of them worked and or represented Hillary and not appointing any conservative or Republican to the Mueller team as unethical or unnormal.

Those are concerns that should have been voiced at the beginning of the investigation, not when the investigation is producing actual indictments and likely convictions. Mueller was praised by Republicans and appointed by the another Republican who Trump himself appointed. Complaining about it now reeks of panic and desperation.

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Posted in: Manafort is first ex-Trump aide to go on trial in Russia probe See in context

A few months in prison and then pardoned.

I know the president has that power, but it's SUPPOSED to be used when there's a miscarriage of justice or wrongful conviction. I don't see that here, which would make the pardon a miscarriage of justice in a way.

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Posted in: Manafort is first ex-Trump aide to go on trial in Russia probe See in context

LOL, it’s not until the 6th paragraph that the article reveals that the charges are unrelated to his work with the Trump campaign. “Journalism “

I guess you don't understand journalistic story structure. The important facts are usually summarized in the lead (like in this article) and gradually expanded on.

And really, when you have multiple people who worked on the Trump campaign being investigated and charged, it's a bigger leap of faith to say anything is completely "unrelated."

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Posted in: Israeli Arab lawmaker quits 'racist' parliament over law See in context

So far, the Social Justice Warriors of the world and their one sided emotional reactions will blame Trump for everything while giving "their side" a get out of jail free card, so to speak.

Anyone blaming Trump for starting the problems in Israel doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

That said, he made matters worse when he decided to move the US embassy there, essentially siding with the Jewish Israeli hardliners. And let’s not forget when the GOP sidelined Obama to invite hardliner Netanyahu to speak in front of congress.

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Posted in: Omarosa to release 'explosive' account of White House stint: publisher See in context

Used the bankruptcy laws, restructured and doubled his fortune, and?

He threw his partners/employees under the bus to save himself. Doesn't bode well for the country. And you forgot to address the scamming and lying.

Accused so then a possibility, not accurately proven.

His word against his multiple accusers'. His word has been proven to mean nothing time after time.

She can have her 15 min. of fame and then what?

No one cares as long as she doesn't run for president like her former mentor.

Sure. Liberals love trash, so why not, it’s a free country as you say.

Trump put "trash" in the White House when it was useful to have a token black woman, and then threw her under the bus like everyone else. It's not America first with Trump, it's Trump first.

The longer you support him, the longer you'll have to own him. It's really in the GOP's best interests to tear him off like a band-aid.

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Posted in: Omarosa to release 'explosive' account of White House stint: publisher See in context

A failed reality star that is known in Hollywood to be a bomb thrower and highly abrasive and obnoxious, guess she needs to try to find some way to stay relevant. No one is going to listen to moonbat.

All accurate descriptions. That's the person Trump saw fit to grant White House access.

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Posted in: Tape of Trump discussing hush money for alleged affair released See in context

Also, the amount of media time devoted to irrelevant issues is insane.

Trump and the GOP fuels their insanity. They've just a few hours ago filed to impeach Rosenstein, the Republican overseer of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation that Trump himself appointed. You got to admit that reeks of desperation and panic.

They are trying desperately to push the public to care more about issues that most people find tedious.

See above about desperation and pushing the public to distrust and look the other way.

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Posted in: Tape of Trump discussing hush money for alleged affair released See in context

I know 3 other Presidents that were real sleazebags.

The more important part of the story is the fraud.

The sad thing is, the left doesn’t get it, nor do they care.....well, they never cared about the economy or jobs, but they sure did love to take people’s money.

You know who talks about Russia collusion more than the left? Trump. What's that saying about the lady protesting to much?

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Posted in: Trump could have been dealer of the free world See in context

Yeah, about that....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/media-blackout-trumps-60-point-accomplishment-list-of-american-greatness

Woah, the White House compiled a list of their own accomplishments? There can't be any bias there...

Seriously though, I almost stopped reading at "Since taking office, President Trump has strengthened American leadership, security, prosperity, and accountability," but the rest of the list includes opinions, paper-thin proposals and backings, premature mission accomplished-s, and a lot of hot air.

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Posted in: How much fake news do you think there is on the internet and other media? See in context

Both sides do it, but both sides do not do it equally.

Excellent point. Fox News doesn't even bother with their ridiculous "Fair and Balanced" pretense anymore.

In the same vein, while politicians on both sides receive corporate donations, Republicans receive almost twice as much as their Democratic counterparts (from about a third the number of donors). Again, follow the money. Who are they really working for?

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Posted in: Tape of Trump discussing hush money for alleged affair released See in context

During the campaign, the Trump team denied any knowledge of the deal between McDougal and American Media.

Probably just misspoke.

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Posted in: Ivanka Trump announces closure of namesake fashion brand See in context

"After 17 months in Washington, I do not know when or if I will ever return to the business, but I do know that my focus for the foreseeable future will be the work I am doing here in Washington."

What work? Quit politics, and go back to being Kardashian-light please...

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Posted in: How much fake news do you think there is on the internet and other media? See in context

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-42724320

"Fake news" started out as a term for the misinformation spread by Macedonian trolls looking to make a buck through ad revenues on social. Ironically, they spread fake stories in FAVOR of Trump, presumably because that's where there's a eager audience...

Trump then turned it around against the actual press, and uses it whenever they're critical of him, regardless of truth.

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Posted in: Trump could have been dealer of the free world See in context

True, but at the time of his election he was at 37% approval rating and now he's at around 45-47% not great, but for a President that is unpopular with the left, his numbers haven't been going down, good sign.

Actually, his numbers have been pretty steady at the lowest in modern history.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Nothing in the private sector, sluggish economy under 2% GDP, investments at an all time low, stock market slummed and the admin was perfectly content with it.

Mining and logging are the biggest contributors to Trump's job numbers. That and his stock/investment boosts can be attributed to the gutting of regulations and corporate responsibilities that used to prevent us from becoming environmental/industrial paradises like China.

I agree, dealing with NK you can never take your eye off the ball, but what have the left done when it comes to NK?

I agree, the left and right haven't done much in the past. Just saying it's too soon to say if Trump has actually done anything either.

They expect the US to take care of them, to lead if there is any military attack, but some of these countries don't want to pay and reach their goal of 2%, if they don't want to, we can leave, good luck dealing with Vlad.

Is it impossible to ask for more from our allies without kissing Putin's ass?

Why?

Because he lies constantly, throws our own intelligence under the bus, bends over for authoritarian leaders, was a known con man who probably laundered money, commands zero respect from world leaders, defends child-molesters and wide-beaters, attacks the media for calling out his lies (rather than for their actual flaws), tweets like a fourteen year old, do I need to go on?

So besides the looney out of the closet socialists, who do the Democrats have besides old white people?

Those looney closet socialists are actually democratic socialists. One of them is an old white man (nothing wrong with them) that happens to be the MOST popular politician in the country. If he decides not to run, we still have more options than the right. The GOP will probably lose anyway, but they might as well lose with some semblance of integrity by opposing Trump.

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Posted in: Trump could have been dealer of the free world See in context

actually chief, if you had done even the most perfunctory research, you would have seen that she shut down her business to pursue a career in public policy more than a year after leaving the company.

She shut down her business because no one was buying her crap. And "leaving" a company in the hands of family and close associates while you go play politics doesn't remove conflict of interest in any real-world sense. Or do you think their businesses escaped Trump's sweeping tariffs by coincidence?

But it'll get pretty hard for you with the President Trump's popularity at an all time high

High for Trump, LOWEST OF ANY MODERN PRESIDENT.

record low unemployment

Only continuing the steady decline that started under Obama.

peace on the Korean peninsula

Outwardly maybe, but it seems like just a show.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-north-korea-nuclear-summit-trump-20180629-story.html

European deadbeat "partners" brought to heel

Bringing allies to heel, bending over and taking it for authoritarian regimes.

2020 just around the corner!

If Republicans have any shred of integrity left, they'll put up an alternative candidate. Otherwise, good luck with your least popular modern president.

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Posted in: Trump could have been dealer of the free world See in context

He forgot to mention deadbeat NATO members are now falling over themselves in pledging their fair share of NATO funding while Russia is proving a useful ally in containing Iran.

Our relationship with Iran was improving before Trump. The deal Trump reneged on forced Iran to ally with Russia and China. And now Trump sends angry all-caps tweets at Iran while bending over to Russia.

He has absolutely no clue what he's doing and should go back to playing a successful businessman on TV.

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Posted in: One of the arguments given by people who are against the death penalty is that it doesn't deter serious crimes such as murder, for example. Do you think the possibility of being sentenced to life in prison deters such crimes? See in context

I know there are a lot of people who say that an execution would alleviate their pain, but have any studies been done to see if that actually happens?

I agree, there's no evidence, but I feel there are certain crimes so heinous that if the culprit is proven without a shadow of a doubt, death is an apt punishment. That said, due to the cons I listed and imperfect nature of the justice system where wealth and influence can determine judgements, we shouldn't leave it open as an option in my opinion.

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Posted in: How much fake news do you think there is on the internet and other media? See in context

Tons on the Internet. As far as the MSM, very little outright fake, but a lot of slant as Bertie said. And the MSM is slanted toward corporate interests, regardless of whether it's conservative Fox News or "leftie" MSNBC. You just have to follow the money.

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Posted in: One of the arguments given by people who are against the death penalty is that it doesn't deter serious crimes such as murder, for example. Do you think the possibility of being sentenced to life in prison deters such crimes? See in context

Pros of death penalty:

It alleviates the pain for some families and loved ones of the victims of the crime.

Cons:

It doesn't deter crimes.

It can end up killing the wrong person.

It ends up costing the state more time and money when you consider the lengthy appeals process.

It doesn't alleviate the pain for all families and loved ones of the victims.

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Posted in: Trump accuses critics of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' as Putin summit fallout continues See in context

I have been searching for evidence of that for nearly 2 years and have seen none.

Two years is nothing in a case like this, and the Mueller probe is already moving faster than average with 35 indictments in this early stage.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mueller-is-moving-quickly-compared-to-past-special-counsel-investigations/

There's no way for us to know more than the investigators, so leave the searching to them. They'll reveal all they know when it's all over. In the meantime, we have the indictments, which include several guilty pleas, some from former Trump aides.

Yet I see clear evidence of the bias and partisan Trump hate from intelligence officials in their tweets, interviews, public statements and the confirmed actions while they were in office in 2016.

All humans have personal feelings about things. Bias is only a problem when it affects your actions. What are these "confirmed actions" you speak of?

Its quite clear with evidence I can see.

Again, which evidence specifically?

Trump, not yet, despite endless speculation and suspicion.

You have to agree that firing the lead investigator in a case so close to you is a clear action that only promotes more speculation and suspicion, right? It's the type of action that caused Nixon to lose even his closest supporters. Clearly those were different times.

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Posted in: Trump accuses critics of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' as Putin summit fallout continues See in context

You dont agree that the recent attacks and extremely partisan statements from the Obama intelligence community leaders could be the reason why he is right to not blindly trust what they concluded?

You don't agree that he may have a personal motive for denouncing an investigation involving key people in his administration and possibly himself?

The extremely partisan statements were directed at a known con man who insults POWs and Gold Star families. Again, what do you think is the proper response to something like that?

However "extreme" the statements may have been, there's no evidence that there's any bias in the way investigations are started or conducted. On the contrary, both sides seem to get investigated as seen in the multiple Clinton investigations.

The current "witch hunt" has already indicted 32 people. How many were indicted in the dozens of Benghazi investigations again?

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Posted in: Trump accuses critics of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' as Putin summit fallout continues See in context

Yet now that is exactly what the Dems are claiming to prevent Trump and Putin from being able to even talk. Who is laughing now?

We want Trump to talk. We don't want him to bend over and throw our own under the bus.

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Posted in: Trump accuses critics of 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' as Putin summit fallout continues See in context

What"s the proper response to a president that continuously lies, shows obvious incompetence and corruption, and attacks the 4th estate for doing their job of challenging positions of power? What seems like derangement is actually a natural response to lousy leadership. Sure his critics can complain too often, but that doesn't mean what they're complaining about isn't true.

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Posted in: Trump tries to calm political storm over Putin summit; says he misspoke See in context

I guess they felt that Putin was going to start WW III.

Why start a war when you can install an easily-manipulated moron in the White House?

So what's happenenig now? Trump meets with the WW III starter for better relations and these same MSM mags and their followers are jumping around in appalling madness?

You don't have to kiss an authoritarian leader's ass and throw your own intelligence agencies under the bus to create better relations.

Theres definitely something going on here besides balanced thinking.

Yes, as always you're the only one thinking clearly, untainted by the MSM, Game of Thrones, reality shows (except maybe The Apprentice), and any remotely deep thoughts.

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