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Posted in: Can Iran deter an Israeli attack? See in context

They are nice guys and not one ever yoked against me being a Jewish American.

That's because they're humans, who I believe are not born evil. Muslims are not a problem, but Islamic ideology most certainly is. Just read what it teaches.

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Posted in: Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 10 killed See in context

but for my my question:

I would think that in previous 'successful' missions, Israeli personnel checking the ships for munitions were not brutally attacked.

What a joke

The joke is people like you who can't digest facts. Lightly armed personnel boarding a blockade-running ship in order to search for munitions were brutally attacked. Had they not been attacked (as was the case in the other 5 ships) nothing would have gone wrong. But then, there wouldn't have been 10 'martyrs' to whip up an ignorant and hateful frenzy around the world.

You're not giving us any perspective... you're giving us scapegoats!

The output of the Palestinian and Arab mainstream media clearly shows that that culture is dripping with hatred of Jews (not just Israel.) It's the most overtly racist and genocidal culture on earth, and it's disgusting that people who have the gall to call themselves 'humanitarians' give it their unconditional support.

As I said, I'm no fan of Israel, but I'm not going to support genocidal racists is order to raise my right-on PC rating amongst the clueless.

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Posted in: Israeli commandos storm aid flotilla; 10 killed See in context

Never been much a fan of Israel, and I think they were extremely foolish to be so easily set up on this occasion. But I think those posters who are rabidly anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian on every occassion regardless of obvious facts should browse the Media East Media Research Institute website www.memri.org. There you can see the mainstream Palestinian and Arab media teaching kids how to become martyrs, labelling Jews 'bacteria, apes and pigs' etc. You can also hear how the 'peace activists' were chanting "Oh Jews, the army of Muhammad will return" as the ships set sail. Watching this sort of footage should help in keeping some sense of perspective.

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Posted in: Investigators try to unravel Times Square bomb plot See in context

and blame it all on a certain religion when the authorities themselves admit they know little as to why.

People are perfectly entitled to come up with theories as to why he did it. And from what we know it's extremely likely that he did it for a reason relating to perceived attacks on Islam or insults against the Islamic 'prophet'.

A real estate broker who worked with Shahzad in 2004 said the bombing suspect had expressed a dislike for former President George W Bush and his policy in Iraq."r

Count me in that group too. I was on the "No War in Iraq" march in London, just before the illegal invasion. The biggest demo in British history. However, the fact the Bush and Blair started an illegal war, and that the USA and UK continue pointlessly to try to crush the Taliban, doesn't alter the fact that Islam clearly preaches that infidels should be killed. Wishful thinkers may say that 'those texts only apply in times of war'. That may be true. But consider that many radical Muslims interpret the Koran in such a way that Islam will always be at war with the non-Muslim world "Dar al-Harb - the house of war" until the whole world is Muslim. And since the west is obviously killing Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan (justification is totally irrelevant), there is NO DOUBT IN THEIR MINDS that they are now in a war situation. And the war is Islam v attackers/insulters of Islam, and none of the 'enemy' can ever be considered 'innocent'. Shahzad, who was trained in a Taliban stronghold, is just another foot-soldier of Islam. Just like the Fort Hood attacker, who even had "SoA" (Soldier of Allah) written on his meishi, and yelled "Allahu Akbar" as he shot his victims.

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Posted in: Man arrested in Times Square car bomb attack See in context

Without going further into that sort of prejudice

Why am I not surprised that this man is extremely likely to be of Islamic origin, given the facts we know about this case?

or are all of 'them' the same to you

No, not all of 'them' are the same. 4% of Pakistanis are not Muslims. They're the ones who are subjugated or persecuted by the Islamic state, to the supreme indifference of 'liberals' (it's time a new term was coined for 'liberals', because these days they're anything but.)

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Posted in: Muslim group warns 'South Park' creators of death See in context

tkoind2

All very profound, and, I might say, obvious.

But stating the obvious about thousands of years of religious strife doesn't help in dealing with the problem of the one religion which refuses to accept the modern world, or modify in any way either the wording or interpretation of the belligerent and misogynistic teachings of its paeodophile (by modern standards) warlord founder.

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Posted in: 'South Park' producers say network cut fear speech See in context

How about the very Western newspaper the printed the cartoon of the prophet Mohammed that led to the death threat, and even the assassination attempt, of the Dutch cartoonist?

So the only example you can cite resulted in death threats and assassination attempts... ho hum.

but the 1.4 billion people of the earth whose lifestyle you refuse to even try to understand

Your arrogance is astounding. People who don't agree with your head-in-the-sand fluffy thinking are usually those who have read the koran and DO understand what makes Islam tick, and quite rightly come to the conclusion that Islam, in its current 7thC belligerent form, should have no place in the 21stC. Of course, you also seem to think that people who dislike Islam also dislike all Muslims, but that's your own problem.

based on this one example

Are you myopic? You've not seen the attempt by Islamic countries at the UN to make criticism/parody of religion illegal? (Of course, the text of the proposal only mentions Islam...) We're heading back to the days of heresy and blasphemy trials. Of course, they already exist all over the Islamic world, but I'm sure you're fine with that coming to the rest of world too.

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Posted in: Somali Islamists ban songs on radio See in context

@Madverts

The first link I see is one to a Sunni Muslim information site called "SunniPath. The Online Islamic Academy"

That site explains in great detail why music is Haram. Do you think that site is 'Islamophobic?'

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Posted in: Tea Party crashers plan to exaggerate 'racists' and 'morons' See in context

What's happened to the 'liberal left' ? Why have they turned into facists and tricksters? Where is somebody who holds 'liberal', tolerant, secular, reasoned and mature views supposed to stand politically these days? It used to be on the 'liberal left' but they seemed to have forgotten what free speech and rational debate means. Instead, they screech 'racist!' 'moron'! at people they disagree with.

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Posted in: Somali Islamists ban songs on radio See in context

@Madverts

Muhummad states: "Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affair of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance."

"On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress."

The Koran is supposed to be perfect and unchanging. So these Somali Islamists are just being good devout Muslims. That's not to say that Muslims don't enjoy music, it's just that their religion forbids it, or at the very least, strongly suggests that it's un-Islamic. This is just pure logic- no 'hate', no 'bigotry'. Islam needs to revise its holy texts to avoid this sort of thing. But it can't.

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Posted in: Obama bans terms such as Islam, jihad from U.S. security strategy See in context

" And these people are using a perverted form of Islam to create terrorists. "

'Perverting' Islam simply means reading the Koran and doing what it says... and doing what Muhammad himself did. It's all there in the Koran and in 1400 years of Islamic military history.

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Posted in: Mumbai gunman describes indoctrination in Pakistan See in context

Islam is not like any other organised religion, because only Islam claims (and where possible, exercises) supremacy over not only all other religions, but all other political ideologies too.

As for poverty- ok, Islamic jihadists can buy and brainwash 'poor kids.' But if these are unavailable, they employ other means to deliver the jihad, as in New York, London, Madrid, Bali etc. The jihad is the constant; poverty is just ONE weapon in the jihadists' arsenal.

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Posted in: Mumbai gunman describes indoctrination in Pakistan See in context

Bin Laden himself is from an immensely wealthy family. The jihadist who tried to blow up Glasgow airport was a well paid surgeon. The 4 London bombers lived comfortable middle class lives. The Bali bombers included university lecturers. Poverty is universal, yet the vast majority of terrorism is perpetrated in the name of Islam. Just face the unpleasant truth: the Koran incites violence, and needs to be heaviy reinterpreted for the modern age. Yet this is seemingly impossible, since the Koran says it's the 'absolute truth', and cannot be questioned (on pain of death... literally.) A deeply troubling Catch-22, which definitely CANNOT be solved by burying your head in the sand and blaming poverty.

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Posted in: Suicide bombers kill 8, wound 50 in Jakarta hotels See in context

It's fascinating, smithinjapan / madverts, that with all the immense weight of evidence of 'Islamic terruh' (you're disgustingly disrespectful to the victims of these atrocities) you still believe there's no religious motive behind them. Even when the terroritsts themselves are saying they do if for Islam. Are they lying? Are they stupid? No- the reason is that you're in complete denial, and can't face up to an unpleasant truth.

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Posted in: Malaysia arrests 9 Christians for trying to convert Muslims See in context

Gombei424Canada:

I was relieved to see I'm not the only person who read the headline about religious oppression in Malaysia and immediately thought of America

WHAT? There's absolutely NO comparison. In Malaysia and other Islamic countries changing your Muslim religion is ILLEGAL! Is there any such law in America or any other western country?

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Posted in: Malaysia arrests 9 Christians for trying to convert Muslims See in context

JenniferKim is on the right lines. This isn't a 'is proselytizing a good or bad thing' discussion. It's hitting on the fundamental truth that in Islamic countries, the law is stacked firmly in Islam's interests, and minorities are suppressed. It's ok to convert TO Islam, but not from FROM Islam (once born a Muslim, you can never leave.) Other religions are suppressed, or even outright illegal (eg pracitising any religion other than Islam is illegal in Saudi Arabia.) One never hears of non-Muslim's demanding rights in Muslim countries, yet in the west, even though governments go to extremes in order to accommodate the demands of Muslims, it never seems to be enough. When it comes to reciprocation, Islam is all for 'an eye for an eye', but never 'I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine.'

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Posted in: Malaysia arrests 9 Christians for trying to convert Muslims See in context

JoeBigs:

OhioDonna, Muslims do not go door to door trying to convert you.

Then I guess those guys in middle eastern dress who used to push 'submit to Allah' leaflets in my face nearly every day when I worked in Egdware Rd, London, must have been imposters.

If you wish to convert then you go to a Mosque and study.

And if you're a Muslim who wishes to convert to anything else (including agnosticism) you die. Horses for courses really.

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Posted in: Muslims want tangible change on Mideast from Obama See in context

SuperLib: if the Muslims in Cairo had admitted that they needed to change in any way whatsoever, the mainly Islamic-apologist mainstream media would've jumped on it and proclaimed it from the rooftops.

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Posted in: Muslims want tangible change on Mideast from Obama See in context

Notice again how Islam is demanding change from the rest of the world while acknowledging none of its own faults.

Millions of Muslims in Europe struggle to win acceptance and shed the stigma of extremism

They should join in the struggle against the extremists then. But they can't, because the extremists are simply obeying the Koran.

... without sacrificing their customs.

Customs which are illegal and/or immoral, such as forced marriage, subjugation of women, homosexuals, non-Muslims etc must be 'sacrificed'. All other customs are perfectly acceptable, and to be welcomed and encouraged, in the culturally diverse free/western world.

They have fought for the right to build mosques

Fought? Mosques are springing up everywhere in the religiously tolerant free world. Contrast that with the Muslim world: in Saudi (which funds most of the mosques in the west) it's illegal to practise any religion other than Islam. And religious minorities are being increasingly harrassed/persecuted in Egypt, Pakistan, and even Obama's beloved Indonesia.

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Posted in: Hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis flee fighting See in context

Some have said the Taliban are not allowing them to leave, perhaps because they want to use them as “human shields” and make the army unwilling to use force

To Islamic jihadists, using 'their own' as human shields seems to be an accepted policy. Hammas follows the same 'moral' code, resulting in massive casualties. Life truly is cheap in the peaceful world of Islam.

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Posted in: Study: Poverty fueling Muslim tension with West See in context

It’s not about faith, it’s not about ethnicity.

Total rubbish. Non-Muslim Indians, Pakistanis and Arabs have no trouble at all integrating into Western society. Just a lame attempt by Islamists to play the race card.

If UK Muslims follow their faith to the letter, which is what the Saudi-funded Imams insist on, integrating into the west becomes impossible. This is because to them the only acceptable law is Sharia, which deems non-Muslims inferior, and accepts no legislation accept the word of Mohammed. Deal with the Imam problem and there might be some hope.

I also notice that other low paid communities aren't resorting to terrorism. That's probably because they don't subscribe to an ideology which advocates violence and which regards outsiders as 'the vilest of creatures' [Koran 8.55]

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Posted in: U.N. blames Israeli army for Gaza attacks See in context

The UN is fast becoming the political wing of Islamic jihad. While Islamic leaders continue to call for de facto genocide of the Jews (with reference to Muslim texts) and to praise the Nazis, the UN is about outlaw criticism of Islam. Other religions remain fair game of course.

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Posted in: Trio cleared over 2005 London bombings See in context

Madverts:

There are overwhelmingly obvious facts about Islamic doctrine, spelled out clearly in the Koran and repeatedly cited by Islamists all over the world, that some people just choose to ignore.

But as for Britons 'craving dhimmitude' - they certainly do not. However, they seem to be totally ignorant of what the Koran says, or what allowing Sharia courts to operate in the UK will lead to.

BTW, 'dhimmi' is most certainly a real word, meaning a non-Muslim living under Islamic juristriction- and consequently having to submit to various special restrictions and taxes. 'Dhimmitude' is a perfectly acceptable derivative term meaning 'the act of being a dhimmi'.

As for the acquittal: can't argue against it if the evidence wasn't conclusive. UK justice remains fair, and available to all. Until Sharia takes hold of course...

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Posted in: Taliban extend hold, advance near Pakistan capital See in context

End religion to save the world

Yeah, those Buddhists really threaten the world with their rabid messages of peace, love, tolerance and inner reflection!

Here we are in the 21C, and there's only one major religion which overtly preaches violence as one of its core values.

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Posted in: Taliban extend hold, advance near Pakistan capital See in context

And we are giving them special rights in the West" Like what? Are you talking about the multiple wives?

In the UK at least, certain areas of Muslim life are indeed dealt with NOW in Sharia courts. Thus a UK Muslim can have 4 wives. More importantly, he can treat them as inferiors (since the Koran says that 'men are the keepers of women' and he can even beat them with impunity (Koran 4:34). And what's more, the UK then bans a Dutch MP who protests against this.

With all this Islamification going on in the west, it's not surprising that the Taleban is rampant in Pakistan. It seems inevitable that the Taleban will gain control of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal and present the non-Islamic world (starting with India) with the very REAL threat of nuclear attack. Even the most PC of dhimmi PC ostriches must be able to see this now. Likewise, the warmongers Bush and Blair must be slapping their dense foreheads and yelling 'doh - why didn't we READ THE KORAN before deciding to attack Muslims lands??' Then they might have realised that attacking a Muslim land is a de facto attack upon Islam (in the Koran's view), giving the jihadists all the justification they need to redouble their efforts.

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Posted in: Clinton tells Asia: America is under new management See in context

Deepinside

What you said contains many truths but is in no way at odds with what Sarge said.

And besides, we all know the oil rich Arab states are now in a position to control world finances. Mega-rich Saudi is leveraging its financial might to have Sharia imposed in Europe (it's already in parts of the UK.) The US adminstration may have changed, but the goals of Islam remain the same.

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Posted in: New York TV exec accused of beheading wife after she files for divorce See in context

Naturally, murder and domestice violence occurs all over the world.

However, DV is a particular problem in the Muslim community because the Koran specifically states that beating one's wife is permitted. (Verse 4:34 - go and check it.) Killing a fellow Muslim is forbidden however.

And even the most Islam-accommodating apologist will have noticed the Islamic predeliction for beheading. That's because in the Islamic world, emulating Mohummad is considered a holy act, and Mohummad personally beheaded hundreds of prisoners.

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Posted in: Clinton, in Indonesia, seeks to improve U.S. image with Muslims See in context

smith: I now believe that you understand the difference betweem hating Muslims and disliking Islam. Muslims are born into an ideology which they cannot leave (since it's punishable by death.) Women born into that ideology suffer daily (since they are offically owned by their husbands) And I agree that the vast majority of Muslims would not want to harm anyone. However, the ideology they've been born into unequivocally preaches stuff which by modern standards is just evil. Muslims aren't evil, but parts of Islamic doctrine most certainly is.

Terrorists claim they're committing their atrocities in the name of Islam. They even cite specific verses. The USA's insane foreign policy (eg Iraq) gives them an reason to fight. The Koran actually gives them divine sanction to fight. America stumbled blindly into a war with a Muslim country. It attacked Muslim lands. According to Islamic teaching, the whole of Islam is now at war with America and its allies. It's as the jihadists say, a 'holy war'. The Koran mandates this. Mohammed himslef personally beheaded around 600 prisoners of war. That's why jihadists strive to emulate him when executing hostages. That is the nature of Islam.

To cure a problem, it must first be diagnosed, not obfuscated.

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Posted in: Clinton, in Indonesia, seeks to improve U.S. image with Muslims See in context

and many of those same people loathe Muslims in general

I've seen no posters here who state they loathe Muslims. However, there are several who dislike intensely the openly misogynistic and aggressive teachings of Islam. Moreover, I notice that Islam is doing nothing at all to improve its image with the non-Islamic world.

Still, most people in the world actually WANT peace

One of the aggressive teachings to which I referred is the Islamic teaching that the world can't truly be at peace until Islam is in control, ie everyone is under the rule of Sharia. That's not so say all Muslims agree with this; it is however part of Islamic teaching, and therefore cannot be challenged, even by Muslims. You have strong opinions about Islam, smith, yet you don't appear to have read the Koran.

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Posted in: Doctor convicted in failed London, Glasgow attacks See in context

cleo: I'm glad you posted that link. I encourage everyone to read the Koran. The issue of Islamic terrorism and jihad would then be understood by all.

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