They say coronavirus is transmissible two days before one develops symptoms, and some of those who are infected do not necessarily visit clinics in a timely manner. We want to catch those people and prevent further infection," he said.
You want to lockdown and keep on catching them actually for this to make sense.
Perhaps spending money on treatment , equipment and staff would help more ?
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There , finally a little bit of clarity.
Loosing him to competition was a problem so they ambushed him in schemes that were illegal.
But isn't this a bit genius ? Ghosn now can't work for any company.
Nissan exploited the Japanese legal system in such a beautiful way for almost free and solved their problem.
There are now 2 big automakers and 3 countries trying to understand the Japanese income tax system before any of this can move forward.
So next time a company approaches you with a dodgy payment methodology think twice.
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The number of infected people hospitalized with severe symptoms in Tokyo is 144, up 13 from Monday, health officials said. The number nationwide is 881.
So how do we interpret this ?
Sixty-four coronavirus-related deaths were reported.
Is there a way to find more details about the deaths ? Were they hospitalised ?
Today we have 70 in their 70s and 64 died ( perhaps around 54 in Tokyo)
So yesterday is 144-13 = 133 severe cases .
Today 54 die so 133-54= 79 left severe cases
So 79 + 70 in their seventies = 149 (very close to 144)
Is that it ?
If you are old you are very likely to develop into a severe case and if you are unlucky and no one dies that day you are doomed.
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Those that do not are having a difficult time but to say that the system is collapsing is inaccurate.
It is as accurate as it gets. The SoE is the proof.
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My wife works in a large hospital that isn't designated to take COVID patients and everything is running as usual.
Can you please ask her how exactly this separation works ? What if you show up there with a broken arm and covid19 ?
That line tells you what you need to know. 4000 beds are not all of the beds in Tokyo, but the beds set aside for coronavirus patients.
These days same thing if you ask me.
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Seriously, what’s with this “in the limit, almost collapsing” talk. Hard to believe when we’re talking about the world’s third biggest economy ( for some people still the 2nd ), a country with 130 million people.
It is terrifying to be honest.
Just today in the UK there were 4000 c19 admissions.
Is it a fear they are trying to communicate ? What is this ?
Are they looking at covid19 as a solution to the pension insurance deficit ?
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There aren't enough doctors or nurses," said Nakagawa. "Even if hospitals are told to increase the number of beds, what can't be done, can't be done.
The government here must swallow the pride and understand that the medical system in Japan isn't reliable and can't be trusted with a task if this magnitude.
Instead it should look for help into foreign expertise treatment and streamlining self treatment options.
Access to zoom, skype for consultation , also remdesivir, avigan, oxygen bathing gear for everyone in the vulnerable group.
The financial help meant for hospitals should go to family members treating the sick.
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no society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means
I completely agree. It is depressing. Capitalism has its shortcomings.
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Zoroto is right ...
Yeah .. The situation around the hospitals is rather grim. I am hoping the financial incentive will change things around
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Was in Tokyo for the day today, everywhere is packed as usual, cafes shoulder to shoulder and obviously no masks because obviously you cannot eat or drink with a mask on. Subway packed, obviously. People from Tokyo do not care about the virus.
Many people came to live in Tokyo to make money. The virus is the absolute opposite. Why did you visit today ? To ride the hatobus ?
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Compared to the SoE last year today didn't feel different at all.
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Do not underestimate Japanese conformity. Although it will be tricky I am optimistic we will have reasonable numbers on March 1.
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Any conspiracy theories on underreporting now ?
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Number five: Avoid Girls Bars
Hmm.. Interesting perspective!
So the very same urge that help us procreate is also a germ super spreader and is trying to kill us.
Like a built in planet crowd control ...
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Anyone rational would understand that the importance of having daily increasing numbers of cases means the infection is not under control, and that the real consequences begins sharply once the capacity to deal with cases that require hospitalization is surpassed. Irrational people think you should only worry once there is nothing to do.
I just wish the hospitals here in Japan were as rational as you and prepared an adequate response on time for the winter.
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Had a talk with some members of my department on this today, and we are working on the assumption we will get a SOE and it will drag on past January. It’s probably a sensible assumption. A large part could rest on the number of hospital admissions this month.
Same here . We believe the hospitals accepting c19 will need at least a month and a half to solve the scaling problem. So SoE just January is highly unlikely.
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Doesn’t sound much different to any other day in Tokyo
I suppose you have a point. Now having slept well I think it really is the schools closure that will hurt.
If the schools stay open we'll be fine. Even if the SoE lasts until March ( I think it will )
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What I am saying is the false idea of naturally occurring herd immunity will never happen because immunity to this virus is not permanent.
This isn't true. What is true is there are concerns the virus mutates in a way that might one day likely far in the future might escape immunity.
Naturally obtained immunity via infection and immunity obtained via vaccines really is the same thing. The first cost more lives the second more money.
Neither will prevent infections if the virus mutates to the point you worry about. This hypothetical mutation if ever happens will likely be classified like a different type of corona virus.
The only way to achieve herd immunity is that a large proportion of the population gets vaccinated
And here you are saying herd immunity is possible . What happened to the mutation ?
So if we want to avoid another disaster like we have had in 2020 please get vaccinated once it is available.
Understood! I will be the first in line.
But that unfortunately won't prevent disasters like 2020 from happening again. People just simply don't have the resource s to predict every possible future virus and its impact on our health and a vaccine for it.
What you can do is try and rethink the medical response in a way that is capable of handling epidemics / pandemics without bringing the whole country to a halt.
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You should learn about what herd immunity actually is, it doesn't work that way, didn't with nearly all other viruses such a so-called childhood diseases hasn't worked that way with the "Annual" Flu.
So what you are saying is herd immunity isn't possible with this virus ? Why ? Do you know something we don't ?
This virus will not burn it self out because it will mutate into something new and escape immunity but if we lock the world down until everybody and every mink is vaccinated which will can stop the mutation and the virus wont escape the vaccines ?
I really don't understand what your point is.
Immunity doesn't literally corelate to a dead virus. It means it is dead to us. it does nothing to us! like probably many other known and unknown pathogens.
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The medical world is also divided about the best way to deal with the pandemic. Pathologists, virologists, and immunologists from around the world have expressed reservations about the way the pandemic is being handled.
Spot on ! This was and still is the biggest problem with Covid19. From WHO nonsense to political interpretation of statistics and ambiguous definitions. A complete mess.
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Not a single organization of experts in health care in the whole world thinks letting the virus "burns itself out" is acceptable, if you have the data to prove them all wrong it would be good to see it, else that is just your mistaken opinion.
At some point the virus will burn it self out. this is known as herd immunity I think. You dont need data to understand this you need a brain.
Also pretending to protect vulnerable lives by preparing 100 ICU units while blaming kabukicho is just that . Letting the virus burns it self out.
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Is this lockdown only for shops or will schools be cancelled too like last April?
I am not sure 100% and of course there probably is space for exceptions, but by definition the SoE means schools are closed .
Quite honestly the first time around the schools closure nearly wore me down.
If your children small and in a private schools the SoE means pay a lot of money for online learning , do a lot if homework during the day and work at night when they are a sleep.
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Just took my son to the hoikuen, walking past some small bars at 8:30 in the morning there were 20 something's spilling out of all night bars, two girls with no masks drunk and a group of guys with them hugging each other
So ? Are you saying they are irresponsible ?
Tokyo is brought down in its knees with just 101 C19 severe cases . This is big the problem , it isn't the young being young.
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Thanks for the as always good post @noriahoyanen. Very informative.
If declared again, the new SOE should urge "defiant" hospitals to cooperate with the state program by taking covid patients.
Deep down I am hoping the government sees these hospitals as unreliable, rank them as inadequate for public service and remove them from the medical insurance schema.
Obviously this system doesn't work , you can't have 70% of the hospitals refusing service just because they can. You cant hold the public hostage just because you can ! This is borderline criminal.
In my eyes this is similar to TEPCO shutting down the electricity in Tokyo just because they are worried their employees will contract covid19 if they keep the lights on for nightlife establishments.
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Just 101 people in Tokyo with severe symptoms, yet the hospitals are overrun with Covid cases?
Yep ! It is 101 and yes they are at capacity to the point of declaring another SoE.
I always thought Japan would be a country that donates ICU machines to poor countries. it is unbelievable this.
I now started thinking most of the hospitals in Japan actually reject COVID patients because they fear they might loose ordinary business.
That is the reality, so @Reckless no , not the best time to relax, instead buy more masks and disinfectants because if you catch the virus or any other virus for that matter you are more less on your own.
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And how are you going to distribute these doses
It is depressing. The collapse of the medical system and the need to even discuss lockdown makes you question every single detail. I don't blame you.
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Obviously things have gone tits up and i urge the government to please contact Astra Zeneca and Pfizer and offer more money for the first 5 million doses.
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Your position is like not understanding why people obsess over a fire alarm, nobody dies over a loud sound, so why would a disproportionate response such as evacuating a whole building must be done?
There shouldn't be a reason to evacuate the whole building. The building design is the problem.
Lots if fake doctors ! Brainless people with fake degrees . Talk a lot do little.
PFFfff.. f... Embarrassing
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The Japanese government has not done a great deal to control the infection," Sakamoto said
Makes you think this !
Sakamoto says , they can't do it because at capacity and it is all Suga's fault.
So if admission to hospital isn't possible do we get our medical insurance money back ?
Are these (St. Luke for ex ) private hospitals ? Are there state owned hospitals in Japan ?
I strongly believe the SoE not only won't solve the problem inbJapan it will start a vicious cycle of new problems . We likely have another 6 months to herd immunity and if Sakamoto says they can't, Suga should start looking for people that can.
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Smuggled videos show Wuhan during earliest days of COVID outbreak: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/18/new-footage-shows-wuhan-during-earliest-days-of-covid-pandemic Very Interesting! but why release only now?