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Posted in: Bush visits aircraft carrier named after father See in context

Athletes..

Basing was the word I wanted to use. An honor is being given to a former President and people just want ot bash on his son for any reason. Thats what being a hater is. excerragerate ? What is this? Please explain that word.

As far as Sushi Saki.. I guess the future will tell us if anything he did is notable enough to build anything in his name.But he has done things that have been considered right to most people of the US at some times considering he had a very good approval rating when he took office and maintained it for quite awhile.

Actually Smith and Taka you can prove he wasnt AWOL, if he had been officially AWOL he would have the DH on his DD214, or in his record (hard copy)would be a mention of the Awol.

It also seems Sr had the highest approval rating at one time of any president. (it was at 89% which leads me to believe that he may have had both parties liking him.) He finished his term at a rating of 29%. Makes me wonder why Smith talks about SR like he was a horrid president considering he had ratings that matched Clinton, Carter,and others when he departed as president.

Some of the things the first Bush did that are very note worthy are, Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990/ Clean Air Act /Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), and other note worthy items.

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Posted in: Saudi supertanker sets sail after Somali pirate release See in context

Always good to reinforce the fact theat doing wrong pays well. When will people learn that giving them money just makes them braver and more likely to take the chance to do it again.

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Posted in: Israeli troops mobilize as Gaza assault widens See in context

Shame on Israel for going after the guys firing mortar shells at them for the last 3 weeks, Shame on them for waiting and waiting for Hamas to control its people, shame on them for letting their people die because they didnt want to listen to those opposed to everything say Shame on Israel.

Come on I think anyone can see they took a lot of abuse before they acted on it. Shame on all the people who think its ok for one side to bomb the crap out of innocents, and not ok for that side to respond in kind.

Obama supports Israel and is giving them the same go ahead all presidents of the US have since the ww2. Keep dreaming Obama is the peace loving none violent savior of the world.

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Posted in: Bush gives $17 bil loan lifeline to GM, Chrysler See in context

Madverts, considering my Father was the owner of many autorepair centers, and I owned my own repair and sales center for years I have to disagree with you. Considering it wasnt uncommon for american made cars in my area to have 200k + without major repairs, I find it hard to swallow your story. Also considering that I have worked on all makes of vehicles and have owned every major brand and find that reliablity of the vehicle is a vehicle to vehicle thing and not brand specific. When I retired my 64 valiant convertible it had 385k on its slant six and had no major work on it ever. When I retired my Supra it had 200k on it but had some major work done over the years. I also have owned multiple work trucks (tow trucks) and found the best one I ever had for reliability and ability was a Chevy 3+3 one ton.

I have worked on Honda's, Toyota's, Nissan's, Ford's, GM's, and Chrysler's and I have seen some of each brand with major miles and no major work and I have seen some of each brand that didnt make it to 50k without major work.

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Posted in: Iraqi judge says shoe-throwing reporter was beaten See in context

If the brother had visited him and seen him and said he was a mess then I would believe him, but he didnt, hasnt. And with that I cant take his account as neither fact nor truth.

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Posted in: Iraqi judge says shoe-throwing reporter was beaten See in context

Lmao Smith you act as you know anyone and everyone.

Name one person I have said is guilty without proof he was? You cant becasue I have never said anything of the such. I actually say they are innocent until proven guilty. If the brother had visited him and seen him and said he was a mess then I would believe him, but he did, hasmt, and with that I cant take his account as fact nor truth.

LMAO. please look past your tunnel and actually see something other then your doomsday BS all the time.

Your swwing you miss you swing again and again. Why dont you just give up and stop trying to label everyone who isnt on your warped logic side?

As far as getting blood on the ground after a take down. You sure havent been a person taking someone down before. I suggest since I doubt you can get the hands one aspect of a takledown you should watch a show like cops. Blood happens a lot when taken down a perp.

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Posted in: Bush gives $17 bil loan lifeline to GM, Chrysler See in context

YuriOtani at 11:09 AM JST - 20th December

Earth to Yuritani... come in please.

American cars are built just fine and have just as high ratings in durability, longevity, and customer satifaction as Japanese cars.

Also American cars are not Larger then the Japanese cars in general. If you consider a toyota Crown wouldnt fit in your (10000 yen) parking spot. I guess you dont live in Tokyo considering the amount of non Japanese cars here is staggering, and that most parking spots here are 20000-40000 yen a month minimum.

Maybe you should take some time and research a bit about vehicles before you spout, maybe you wouldnt sound so ignorant about them.

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Posted in: Iraqi judge says shoe-throwing reporter was beaten See in context

Blah blah blah again Smith.

Im posting on the article and not what I think happened or what is my dream that happened.

Smith only beating I get is your post "beating" around the article and ignoring what they said. I do love your way of creating the story as it goes and look forward to more additions to it from you.

Adaydream I saw the take down posted on the Geektube your quoting, and Ive taken down people before as an Officer so I understand from the video that he could have gotten black and blue from a take down. I would love for you top show me how you can say what happened at the take down when the video doesnt show anything of it other then the top of the SS and Iraqi guards, and not the perp. But hey your on par with Smith on the make it up as it goes thing.

I can only go by what the ARTICLE is saying and it is confirming he was "beat" at the takedown time, and only has bruises on his face and eyes (not broken arms and such as Smith quotes over and over).

And Smith Im not 100% sure what happened just as I Know you (even with your story creating powers) are not 100% sure what happened. But I do have the story posted and in that story it states the facts as known right now. I never said they couldnt/wouldnt/shouldnt beat the man, but I also didnt try to create a alter story like you are trying to do.

Sezwho2 from the article it says he wrote the letter, I am going to guess the Judge asked him if he wrote it (I know Im going on an assumption here, but I would ask that question if I was the judge) and thats why the judge stated that to the press.

I think likitis is correct in this post, we dont know for sure what happened, we can only go by the information provided by the people who have seen him.

If you see him Smith or Adaydream then please take pictures and report it so we can find the truth, until then we have to take the judges word for it until proven wrong or right.

And one last thing. Maybe just maybe Smith someone is telling the truth and he wasnt forced to write it and maybe he wasnt beat to do it. Maybe just maybe you had a life where you have to question everyone because they abused you or used you, but I tend to believe the people until they are proven wrong, kinda like innocent until proven guilty.

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Posted in: Iraqi judge says shoe-throwing reporter was beaten See in context

Smith how do you come up with your warped logic of "guess they can no longer deny the man was beaten and coerced into requesting the pardon. "

since the story said. Friday into the beating of an Iraqi journalist moments after he threw his shoes at President George W Bush. Which says he got injured in the taking down right after the shoe throwing and not beat in the jail for a confession.

and this statement The judge also confirmed that al-Zeidi had written a letter of apology to al-Maliki

Which says he did it on his own and not beat to do it.

Talk about stating what you want it to be instead of the actual info posted in the article.

As for the rest of your arguement, well thats destroyed in the above two statements from the article.

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Posted in: Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at Bush asks for pardon See in context

Smith

I would believe the man penned a letter to get out of jail. Hes in jail looking at bars, it changes a persons attitude very quickly. Also the letter is to the PM and asked the PM to forgive him for insulting the country not Bush. He hasnt changeds his stand at all. Really should read the article or the 10000000000 other ones on line right now.

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Posted in: Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at Bush asks for pardon See in context

On Thursday, Dana M. Perino, the White House press secretary, said President Bush had urged the Iraqis “not to overreact, because he was not bothered by the incident, although it’s not appropriate for people to throw shoes at a press conference, at any leader.”

Bush made his statement and it was as good as one can get.

Also every report I can find says the Lawyer and the Judge both say he has no major injuries and is in fine health.

I guess the best thing to do is not read those extremist rags and look for bad news on the subject, and wait for the court case when everyone will get lots of pictures of the man injured or not.

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

Taka313.

You are right that 7 days after 9-11 the Antrax attacks started. They found a American man had sent the Letters out (in 2008 they found him and he killed him self). But at the time the US was still in the middle of 9-11 and considered it part of the same attack. SO you are correct, but considering the closeness of the 9-11 and the 9-18 attacks most consider them the same wave of attacks.

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

Bush said he has made the US safer after the 9-11 attacks and be it as it is we have not had any attacks , therefore at this time in place we have been more secure. Will it last ? who knows.

Just so its clear all airlines had been warned in 1998 when the terrorist threat about airplanes was introduced. None of the intel your listing was introduced in Bush's term it was all introduced in Clintons.

Some people should take the time to read the report congress did. the 911 commission breaks it down very well, and a lot of the changes we have in security came from that document. As sezwho2 stated at the time of the commissions report they did not feel the US was safer, but after that time things changed to increase overall security.

Even Cher (if she could turn back time) couldnt of changed the way the whole deal went down. The intel of when, where, and what wasnt there to see. We become much clearer in our vision after the fact.

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

Sorry smith here is the copy of my request.. I asked for very specific info..

See below..

Show me the Intelligence that Bush ignored that was created and exposed in the months after he took over office, that explains the attack method and time frame, and wasnt already taken off the table as a real threat by Bill Clinton.

This was planned (all the intel shows) under Clintons watch. Even Adaydreams link shows it was all intelligence known before 2000. Bush didnt respond to WHAT intel? What valueable intelligence did he ignore? Please show us this intelligence that would lead anyone to believe they would do the attack on 9-11 2001 with airplanes?

Once again I wait for this intel that states what I asked. Not general information on types of attacks that happened before. On top of this the intel he had all was gone through by Clintons office and deemed not viable..

Clinton could be charged with the same thing as Bush. He could of made things safer, so could all the other presidents who did nothing about outside threats. Only reason any one blaims Bush is out of hatrid of the man and not sound or realistic logic.

Mod I promise last post on this topic for me, I dont really expect an answer since there isnt one.

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

Im a bit lost on your post Smith. How does events of the world change into tangible intelligence that Bush ignored? All the things in your post refer to times way before Bush and discarded by Clinton as not important in the protection of the US. 20/20 is perfect vision, and all the people from 1970 until 9-11 2001 read the same things your posting. Why would it be a red light for Bush to see the 9-11 attacks?

My question was what intelligence did Bush ignore that was about 4 airplanes being flown into buildings in the US as a plot by AQ on 9-11 2001. What you are showing me is examples of attacks by plane. In history people have attacked with cars, buses, planes, boats, people, dogs, cats, rodents, etc etc etc. But no president has locked down everything based off of historical events.

When JFK was killed they said they never expected a president to be shot even though Lincoln meet the same fate.

An estimated 100000 terrorist threats about AQ had been filed before Bush took office. None of the threats where deemed real from Bill's staff, but Bush's staff had beefed up the hunt for cells and such before 911 according to the 911-commission.

I think people are creating the "ignored intelligence" to support a hatrid of the war. He didnt ignore anything that wasnt already ignored by Clinton.

Did Bush make the US safer? Most likely yes. He tightened security in some of the more accesible areas, he brought the fight to the ME and AQ is focused on that area (right or wrong it still did serve to bring the AQ terrorist to that area), and to this date we have not had a major attack (other then the Antrax which isnt labeled an AQ attack) by AQ on US soil since 9-11. Does it mean the US is safeer after we leave the Middle east and AQ can refocus on us at home? Most likely not.

So to sum it up. We are safer at this moment then we were on 9-11 2001, but its a false safty that will disappear as soon as we leave the area of the ME.

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

Well Madverts..

Since you link to the same brief that adaydream did in your second post we will just say you didnt actually read that brief. And no it isnt any kind of actual warning about planes into buildings etc etc etc, and the intelligence was from before 2000. That intelligence was deemed not important by Bill then.

Your other link is to Clark who was unable to prove what he said and was discredited by all the other people in the meeting not to mention his book deal that he made.

What I asked for was "Please show us this intelligence that would lead anyone to believe they would do the attack on 9-11 2001 with airplanes?"

But what I got was the same old August 6th debrief that didnt say anything about the 9-11 attack at all, and a report of Clark "who released a book" then stated Bush knew more. Really is hard for someone to actually give the information requested?_ Or is it that information isnt real and therefore you can not produce such things?

I wait for my requested information.

Moderator: All readers back on topic please.

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

Ahh but Smith I'm not one. Im not a Bush fan nor am I a fan of those who find it a daily ritual to Bash only Bush.Like nothing was caused by anyother person in Washington past or present. I think those who Bash Bush for the sake of bashing him have tunnel style vision and dont see anything close to a whole picture.

Show me the Intelligence that Bush ignored that was created and exposed in the months after he took over office, that explains the attack method and time frame, and wasnt already taken off the table as a real threat by Bill Clinton.

This was planned (all the intel shows) under Clintons watch. Even Adaydreams link shows it was all intelligence known before 2000. Bush didnt respond to WHAT intel? What valueable intelligence did he ignore? Please show us this intelligence that would lead anyone to believe they would do the attack on 9-11 2001 with airplanes?

Also from my understanding of the flow of things we didnt go into Iraq until march 19th 2003. Considering he had the congress approval to invade Iraq in October of 2002 and we didnt invade until March 19th 2003 He didnt seem to rush, but he did seem to not to listen to the UN on the matter.

Im not a supporter of how we went into Iraq, I would of perferred other countries to (for once) be the might of the UN and invade Iraq to enforce the sanctions. Does this mean I think Bush had the goal to invade Iraq from the beginning? NO. Does it mean I think he rushed into Iraq becasue he had intelligence failures on the 911 attacks? NO (considering the intelligence wasnt anything that indicated the attack of 9-11 and was from years ago and dismissed by the former presidents staff and Bill himself)

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

Adaydream.. Another lie(or just plain ignorance).... Since Im a regristered Independent and the last "two party" guy I voted for was Bill (pants around his knees) Clinton..And I still to this day kick myslef for voting for a man who reduced my pay while I protected his butt.

That shows me what? That the FBI in 1998 had a report that AQ thought about Hijacking an airplane to use as a hostage situation to get a political person released? What does that have to do with using a plane for a bomb into the twin towers? Or do I have to put on my X-file issued glasses and see what isnt there?

Even on my best day of being an anti Bush guy I couldnt link that to the hijacking of 4 airplanes (or attempts) to use as self propelled bombs. And considering most of the data in that brief is from Clintons time I have a harder time blaming Bush for it, when it would seem Clinton should of been on top of it. Also with the information on that site you show me that Bush had no reason to think a little over a month later they would do 9-11. But I guess when you want to see something you see it, but when your not aching for something thats not there you just see the truth.

And Adaydream.. I accept your apology :)

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

adaydream at 10:55 AM JST - 18th December

george bush's inaction allowed the 9/11 attacks.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=August6%2C2001%2CPresident'sDailyBriefingMemo

No, there's no debate. If he'd have done hios job to begin with we wouldn't have been attacked.

But the republicans believe hook, line and sinker. < :-)

Lying a habit or a hobby for ya ??? Thats a link in your post. I dont have a truth because I havent access to the information that would give an acurate answer, and hard to believe but you dont either. The truth will not be the one you read in a blog or a wiki page thats for sure.

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Posted in: Bush says there can be 'no debate' about his keeping U.S. safe See in context

adaydream ..

First your wiki style link is a blank link. Nothing on it.

What information should we have listened to_? THe multi pages of reports during the Clinton administration that stated such an event will happen? The information during the late 90's that gave us the exact location for OBL? The information that was passed when Bush took office that OBL is not a threat and not a high priority? Or some information the the CIA and FBI recieved (amonst the millions of pieces of information they recieve daily) about a possible attack on the US? Maybe we should of went after OBL when they did the 93 bombing of the same buildings?

Before 911 the standard routine for a hijacking was to comply with the hijackers and no one got hurt. Been doing it that way since the 70's. That is why the plan they used worked, not because the goverment didnt stop them, because people didnt think what happened would. Now if you try to take a plane over with a box cutter, you will get mauled by the people on the plane.

Every one has a story to tell and just like when you question ten people about a crime you get ten different stories. You have your idea and your tale to tell, Skip has his tale to tell. Neither of you are telling the whole truth, and both of you are speaking from your political view. The truth we may never know, but I know it isnt either political parties version.

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Posted in: Across Mideast, Arabs hail shoe-hurling journalist See in context

Smith doing rude things to a world leader because you dont like the policies is wrong no matter who they are. With you its always "your a Bush lover" when someone points out Bush didnt do it by himself and he is at the core no different then any other political leader. I dont like Bush and never voted for him, but I'm not living to hate him as you are. I also am an adult and find the reporters behavior vile and childish. Even if the shoes had been thrown at the idiot who is in charge of Canada or the Idiot in charge of Japan. My point is simple, those who raise this man to the level of hero are just as stupid as he is for throwing the shoes. Hitler was a hero to many many people and still is today, does that make what he did right?

You blame everything on Bush even though the facts show many people are responsible. You say because he is the leader of the free world he is to take all the blame. In less 24 days everything that happens becomes Obamas issues. I wait to see if you say the same for him (when we go hard into Afghanistan and kill many many people, innocent and not)as you have for Bush.

I hold all those in goverment who made the decisions accountable for the situations we have today. I will do the same in the future. You on the other hand seem to be a broken record and never leave the groove that says BUSH DID IT. Hate to break it to you, but we are in for a long 4 years, and I think they will be far worse then now based on the promises made by Obama and the reality of the world. He is a hero to the same group that already showed how not to act, you know the groups who are killing innocents, looting stores. I have seen as many Iraqis call him a hero as I have I have seen Iraqis call him a fool who just made them look like idiots.

Zaidi, accused by the Iraqi government of a "barbaric and ignominious act" will be tried on charges of insulting the Iraqi state, said the Iraqi prime minister's media advisor, Yasin Majeed.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article5354278.ece

http://baghdadbureau.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/15/brother-is-proud-of-shoe-tossing-iraqi-journalist/

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Posted in: Obama chooses education secretary See in context

As far as a working education system.. umm yea ok what president has provided a good model so far?

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Posted in: Across Mideast, Arabs hail shoe-hurling journalist See in context

So yesterday I pissed on a picture of Bush, then ripped up a picture of Stephen Harper, spit on a picture of Aso, and finished off my day by slapping my shoes on a picture of the Queen of England..

Im a hero now according to some. I say that because people say Bush is EVIL and I pissed on his photo, Mr Harper is equal to Bush and I ripped up his picture, Aso is said to be as bad as Bush and I spit on his picture, and of Course England has invaded and killed every country in the world at least once, forced its rule on so many cultures we cant even count them and slapped my shoes on that evil countries Queen.

Did I just give the best media report in the world now?

Come on some of you sound like kids on a play ground, grow up. Consider for a fact that what the guy did was just simply stupid.If He wanted to stand up and say Bush is an ass he would of gained much more credibility. What he did was fuel the anti Arab feeling many on the world have. Too bad he has a cheerleading team who dont understand its a negative (what he did) to his religion, his race, and his people.

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Posted in: Obama chooses education secretary See in context

Well he was going to have the Governor of Ill. be the guy but something else came up first (like jail time). LMAO

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Posted in: Subaru pulls out of World Rally Championship See in context

I think its a good move, and I also think the other automakers need to pull out of all other sponsored racing. They are all getting goverment money, and spending more then that on racing. I hate to see them all pull out(I love all types of racing), but it is the financial right thing to do.

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Posted in: Obama chooses education secretary See in context

Taka its change..

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Posted in: Across Mideast, Arabs hail shoe-hurling journalist See in context

When the protestors came out to stop the war here in the states they numbered in the 100k+ range. When people came out to show support of their new shoe hero it was under 10k. Seems either Iraqis dont like public displays or the media is over hyping again.

Serving in the military you have to cringe when you hear of a person doing that to your leader, even if you dont like it, because they see you on the front line not him.

Funny part is an Arb reporter was the guy who took him down after he threw the shoe. Dumb move on the shoe throwers part, but at least it isnt going to get him and his family killed for doing it.

Like Bush or not you have to say he sure dodged that shoe well. Hope the next president can dodge the things thrown at him by his fans. Since we now think its ok to throw things at world leaders.

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

Dont believe me, but same goes for your post, I have a hard time believing anything you post since most if not all is in direct contradiction of the facts available on any news site in the world.

Here are some links for you since you dont have the ability to surf your self.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/sep/11/iraq1

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1141359.cms

http://chinadaily.com.cn/world/2006-04/24/content_575732.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/religion.htm

And yes the Christian (only around 800k of them) didnt get the majority of the violence from Saddam, but they did get some of it, and more after the UN defence of Kuwait.

Bottom line is under Saddam many Iraq people died from him for Goverment/religious reasons. No matter how you try to change the facts.

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

Once again you didnt read.

You have become a waste of time sorry.

No more stupid games for you.

Goodbye get your parting gift at the door.

Come back when you not trying so hard to be a bung hole.

See ya.

Enjoy your couch...

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Posted in: Bush dodges shoe protest during visit to Iraq See in context

Wow. You can not read well ey? only dodging is your dodging of the facts and reality.

Friends =Christian.. as stated in the post

I not posting any links as there are to many that explian the religious issues in Iraq before and during Saddam. I posted all that information. As I have said before you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.

Take the time read, study then come back to post your nonesense. Right now your just being silly and wasting bandwidth.

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