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Posted in: Activists hurl stink bombs, paint at Japanese whalers See in context

bkh1434...

"what i can do is show my japanese friend what they need to do with the governement.. keep educating them and hope it will change one day. I do worry but one day an activist might injure a fisherman or an activist might get injured .. makes me wonder if that would stop japan? Or law suits.."

a noble, sensible approach.

unfortunately, the experience of every Gaijin I've ever known is that, the only learning from mentioning whales or WW2 to Japanese, is the Gaijin learning that he/she actually doesn't have any Japanese friends.

It's like trying to teach Aussies that BBQing might be unsanitary......

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Posted in: Activists hurl stink bombs, paint at Japanese whalers See in context

I don't necessarily support SSCS's methods, but definately do not equate them with Terrorists. If they were Terrorists, whalers would be unable to continue, due to the TERROR and fear for their well-being induced by a TERRORist.

However, in the last 30 years, the ONLY whales that have been saved have been by the actions of Sea Shephard. Greenpeace haven't saved ANY. IWC haven't saved ANY. Australian Government inaction haven't saved ANY.

I have to respect that.

I would never go out of my way to suport them financially, until I see posts on an International forum that appear to be at minimum, professionally supported. The injustice of this makes me want to contribute to SSCS, just to balance the Leger.

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

"I can't help it if people in Australia mistakenly believe that they have authority and jurisdiction in situations and locations where they don't according to international laws and standards accepted by the rest of the world. It's just too bad if you feel disrespected or offended by another country when it is acting in accordance with the law. You're certainly entitled to your emotional (and far from rational) response but that country certainly shouldn't bear any responsibility for how you feel. It's absurd that you are pinning a territorial and resource oriented dispute between two nations on something other than law."

So if Japanese Government boats sail merrily into Pearl Harbour, 'just for kicks', aven after the US politley asks them not to come within 200 miles, it's no disrespect, coz it's not Illegal?

Nice Logic path

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Posted in: Japan urges Australia to help stop anti-whaling activists See in context

Elvinsilvan....it's an annual RESEARCH.......

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

I'm hearing, "1) It's NOT Australia's Waters, 2) It's in no way illegal, 3) they are not actually a whaling boat, 4) It's not a JCG boat, etc" quite repetitively.

1) It WAS in Australian Territorial waters - Julia Gillard said so.- and it WAS a huge insult to the vast majority of Australians, who consider Japan as a friend.

2) We're not sure if it's illegal, because Japan have yet to meet their obligations under the ICJ, for Justice to be considered by the independant umpire.

3) It was a whaling boat last year, it is travelling as part of the whaling team, it's named in sequence with the other whaling boats (YM1,2,3,etc), it is self-labelled as Government of Japan, and stated it is a Security vessel for the whaling team.

4) It's paid for by JCG (ie YOUR TAXES), manned by JCG, and labelled with ten foot high writing "Government of Japan"

Do you guys have any OTHER points as to why it's OK for The Government of Japan to "thumb their nose" at Australia so thoroughly & arrogantly???

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

For the "I refuse to consider the quotes provided, coz I haven't personally seen the website that they come from" crowd;

Jan. 10, 2012 - 08:37PM JST

For all of our dear posters that want to use "Australia's AG Nichola Roxon says" to prove their own point of view, here's what she said tonight, after ANOTHER Japanese whale boat coming within FIVE miles of Australain Territory....

"We have asked our embassy today to reiterate to the Japanese government that whaling vessels are not welcome in Australian territorial waters," a spokesperson for Attorney-General Nicola Roxon said in response to the claim.

"The Australian government believes strongly that Japan's so-called scientific whaling is illegal."

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/government-reminds-japan-whalers-to-stay-out/story-e6frfku0-1226241198624#ixzz1j3QByj6M

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

Since our ProWhaling friends want to just keep saying the same thing over again and again,

Jan. 11, 2012 - 05:00AM JST

ArrestPaul, your ability to stand in the face of truth & logic are truly impressive, along the lines of North Korea.

For the rest of our regular viewers, from The Age, this morning;

Earlier, Greens leader Bob Brown accused the Japanese of provoking the conflict by sailing into Australian territory. ''The whalers have taken one more step in aggravating this dispute,'' he said. ''They are thumbing their noses at Australia again.''

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-rebukes-japan-over-breach-20120110-1ptlv.html#ixzz1j5PX2veX

as I've repeated, regardless if it's 1 mile or 10, a JCG boat or a whaling boat, etc,etc,etc, MOST Australians see this as a BIG INSULT to us from our 'friends' in Japan.

If these tree huggers took offense, and decided to make a Non-Violent protest that brought Japan's Arrogance into the Front Page media, then I'm proud of their action! It's on a level with ripping up a Parking Ticket, knowing that it's illegal, and being willing to face whatever consequences there may be, as being 'the price of admission' of my protest.

What decides Australian Government's reaction to these things is How Much Grief they get from the public & the media, and you can see from Julia/Nicola/Bob Brown's Reactions, that they've heard PLENTY!

Enjoy your whale meat while you can!

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Posted in: Japan urges Australia to help stop anti-whaling activists See in context

“We told the embassy that we regretted such an obstructive activity and asked for efforts on Australia’s part to prevent it from recurring,” the official said.

Australia HAS made efforts to prevent it from reoccurring.

They have lodged Legal Action against Japan in the ICJ, and are still waiting for Japan to respond (by March 2012, as directed by ICJ).

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

OK, Just to save time....

Arrest Paul's next argument will be..

"But Evil SS TRICKED the whale boats (sorry, Security boats) into following them into Australian (Sorry, 'International, ie Japanese owned') Waters, so it is SS who insult Australia...."

1) YES....the whalers/JCG staff were easily SUCKERED.

2) The reason this works is because A) All Whaling vessels (regardless of nationality)are viewed as illegal, and not allowed to enter Australian ports B) Sea Shephard are NOT viewed as an illegal entity in Australia, and are welcome in Australian waters.

For the Japanese Government to 'demand' that Australia take action to stop SS interferring with their activity that Australia sees as illegal, and is waiting for them to respond to Australia's Legal Action (March 2012 deadline), shows the COMPLETE lack of respect fro Australia's cultural freedom to democratically decide to be disgusted by whaling.

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

ArrestPaul, your ability to stand in the face of truth & logic are truly impressive, along the lines of North Korea.

For the rest of our regular viewers, from The Age, this morning;

Earlier, Greens leader Bob Brown accused the Japanese of provoking the conflict by sailing into Australian territory. ''The whalers have taken one more step in aggravating this dispute,'' he said. ''They are thumbing their noses at Australia again.''

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-rebukes-japan-over-breach-20120110-1ptlv.html#ixzz1j5PX2veX

as I've repeated, regardless if it's 1 mile or 10, a JCG boat or a whaling boat, etc,etc,etc, MOST Australians see this as a BIG INSULT to us from our 'friends' in Japan.

If these tree huggers took offense, and decided to make a Non-Violent protest that brought Japan's Arrogance into the Front Page media, then I'm proud of their action! It's on a level with ripping up a Parking Ticket, knowing that it's illegal, and being willing to face whatever consequences there may be, as being 'the price of admission' of my protest.

What decides Australian Government's reaction to these things is How Much Grief they get from the public & the media, and you can see from Julia/Nicola/Bob Brown's Reactions, that they've heard PLENTY!

Enjoy your whale meat while you can!

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

For all of our dear posters that want to use "Australia's AG Nichola Roxon says" to prove their own point of view, here's what she said tonight, after ANOTHER Japanese whale boat coming within FIVE miles of Australain Territory....

"We have asked our embassy today to reiterate to the Japanese government that whaling vessels are not welcome in Australian territorial waters," a spokesperson for Attorney-General Nicola Roxon said in response to the claim.

"The Australian government believes strongly that Japan's so-called scientific whaling is illegal."

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/government-reminds-japan-whalers-to-stay-out/story-e6frfku0-1226241198624#ixzz1j3QByj6M

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

It's Me

Have you SEEN a picture of SM2 lately???

It's painted white with 10 foot high ENGLISH letters saying "Government of Japan"

Of course, it would have reached out to the English speaking world if it had been more Jinglish.....hehheeeeee

"Japan the Boatist Governmentying (but not holds the Harpooning)"

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

"By International Law"........One country can Nuke another, if it has correctly followed the process (Please note that neither Australia or Japan have any nuclear weapons)......still doesn't make it ethical, let alone how 'friends' treat each other.

If a Chinese Government boat went sailing under the Golden Gate bridge looking to pre-emptively harrass anti-homophobia protestors, who annually go out to protest China's annual Homophobia Hunt (but just for Research) would that be ethical, or acceptable? Especially if they had already been warned by U.S. authorities not to come within 200kms??

And then if you had to read internet posters saying "but their GPS doesn't show that they were actually UNDER the Bridge" so it can't be true, despite live TV coverage with pictures on NBC?????

Ridiculous....

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

Yep.

I read through about 50 posts before anyone even hinted at 'where the boat was'.

Some even Quoted Mz. Gillard, yet chose to overlook THIS quote.???

Some still continue to haggle over 'How do we KNOW where the boat actually was'??

Well, it was "In Australian Waters" and we KNOW this, because Australia's PRIME MINISTER told you so, and nobody from Tokyo has come out to try to discredit it........

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Posted in: Japan urges Australia to help stop anti-whaling activists See in context

"We told Australia to stop letting Australain citizens interfer with us when Our Official 'Government of Japan' boat ignores Australia's demand to not enter the EEZ, then we go 170km closer to the Australian coastline and stalk an Australian port"

Really?

Really????

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Posted in: Aussie PM criticizes antiwhaling activists after Japan decides to free them See in context

"Gillard said the Japanese government had been told the Shonan Maru No. 2 “was not welcome” within Australia’s exclusive economic zone before the three activists boarded it in Australian waters."

Would all postersof the last couple of days, that couldn't accept that The Japanese ship was where it shouldn't be, now like to publicly apologise.

As I said yesterday, This was a Clear & Arrogant Insult to Australia......very disrespectful.

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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

Surely someone in Japan is wise enought to do a Cost-Benefit analysis on holding these guys.........but then again, a person with that logic would have to do a Cost-Benefit on the whole whaling Kabuki show......

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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

"How do you know? Most "normal" people both Japanese and Australians would have enough common sense to recognize that these imbeciles deliberately boarded a ship at night without permission and deserved whatever they had comming. " Ossan America

Please don't dare to suppose what "normal" & "common sense" mean to Australians.

I would imagine that 95+% of Australians can NOT look past "Scientific killing",then continue a conversation about "common sense".

They boarded a WHALING ship .........in a world that has NO LEGAL COMMERCIAL WHALING .........a third of the way around the world from Japan .......Kayaking distance from a public Australian beach.

....and you DARE to propose what Australians THINK??????

I'm in a blended Japanese-Australian family,currently in Australia, watching the hourly news update on TV. This is the LEAD story, and I assure yoy that there is NO suggestion that the Aussies are the bad guys in this situation.

I am offended that you come on an international forum, and use your very false and warped idea of 'what Aussies think is normal' to try to convince others that whaling is a perfectly legitimate exercise!

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Posted in: Noda visits Fukushima See in context

I hope his party ate & drank well while there.......after all, 'there is no appreciable risk to those still living there'!

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Posted in: Sex crimes rising with thermometer See in context

As always in Japan,.....consequences are sorely lacking. Over generations, the original rules have been lost, until now, the youngsters...boys AND girls, don't even KNOW that its wrong.

In the west, we would break your fingers if you touched our CARS.....let alone our woman-folk!

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