The Taylors have not denied helping Ghosn flee but insist they can't be extradited because they say what they are accused of isn't a crime under Japan law. They have asked the judge to rule that the Secretary of State's decision to surrender them to Japan violates the law.
Extradition is based on whether aiding and abetting a bail jumper is a crime under US Federal Law or the Laws of the State of Massachusetts . It is not based on whether it is a crime in the Extradition Treaty Partner Nation.
For example suppose a Muslim country demands a US citizen be extradited because he was guilty of drawing some cartoon of Allah. The US would be under no obligation to comply because it is not a crime in the US. But suppose the charge was theft or murder. Then the US would extradite him because those are crimes in the US.
The Taylor's defense has no merit exactly as DOS says. Their defense is exactly what they should present to a Court in Japan. Who knows, they might even get off.
The Taylors were not acting on behalf of the US government, they took the Ghosn job as paid civilian operators. $1.36 million. Hire a Tokyo lawyer already. They are wasting money fighting State.
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SJToday 04:50 pm JST
Is it normal that the government meddles in civilian legal matters in Japan?
Is it normal in South Korea to allow civilian legal matters that have already been addressed in a signed Treaty with another nation to progress? And is it normal for the South Korean government to refuse to abide by the Arbitration clause in that Treaty designed to resolve differences in interpretation?
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gokai_wo_manekuToday 08:59 am JST
During the war, Japan brought over Koreans as slave labor, and after the war, there was no money to send them back
Korea was part of the Japanese Empire from 1910 until 1945. During which time Koreans held Japanese citizenship and many emigrated to Japan where the economic conditions were better. There were many "Japanese of Korean background" residing in Japan before WWII.
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Desert TortoiseToday 06:11 am JST
Newsflash, Japan never was at war with Korea.
Uh, yes it was. See the events surrounding the Donhak Revolution, which brought Japanese forces to Korea to fight Chinese forces stationed in Korea. The Korean King asked for Chinese help to defeat the Donhak, but Japan considered that a of the Convention of Tientsin. Japan landed forces defeated the Qing forces there, forced them to surrender Korea's tributary status leading to Korean independence. Japan then assisted Korean army to defeat the Donhak Revolution.
Read your own post, Japan was at war with China. The Korean king asked China to to defeat the Donhak rebels, not fight a war with Japan. China sent troops and Japan sent troops to fight China. Not Korea.
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Tom DoleyToday 07:23 am JST
I’ve to commend Japan’s persistence with trying to normalize fallacies. Experts, Japanese lawyers, and even international organizations such as WHO have all commented that the 1965 treaty did not cover slavery nor sex slaves.
So South Korea is now asking the World Health Organization to support their anti-Japan agenda? lol
the South Korean side said, "The Japanese government and the defendant companies need to show a more sincere attitude toward a resolution."
The only side that needs to show a sincere attitude towards a resolution is South Korea. As proven below;
Japan argues the ruling goes against a 1965 bilateral agreement that provided South Korea with financial aid on the understanding the compensation issue was settled "completely and finally."
That 1965 Treaty contains an Arbitration Clause for when any difference in interpretation arises. This is obviously a difference in interpretation yet South Korea continues to refuse to abide by this clause. Only if it were determined in Arbitration in South Korea's favor would the South Korean Court actions not be in contradiction of the Treaty. But South Korea refuses knowing they would be ruled against.
The same way that South Korea has refused ICJ settlement over the Liancourt Rocks three times.
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garthToday 05:25 pm JST
These countries have all done significantly better than Japan in the pandemic
You actually believe China's figures?
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JT needs to update the story headline. State Dept has over ruled the Federal Judge's stay. The Taylors are being extradited.
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The Taylors got paid $1.36 million. They can afford a good Tokyo law firm. As far as jail conditions in Japan that Carlos was too "above it all" to deal with, these former Special Forces guys should have no problem at all.
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A delay for the new petition to be reviewed. And then, it's back to extradition. Don't know how many petitions can be submitted but although that can delay an action it doesn't put it to bed. The Defense argument that it isn't a crime to assist bail jumping in Japan is not one that any Court in the US can address. The defendants would have to appear in a Court in Japan to present that defense. And of they truly believed that defense, they would go to Japan of their own volition and clear themselves of the charges rather than fighting extradition.
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What has irked me for the last 19 years is how we are told that this extremism is just a small minority of Muslims but no Muslim leaders throughout the world speak out denouncing these acts and calling for them to stand down.
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A bit of a pattern here in South Korea. Wonder if Moon is headed that way eventually.
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He may be popular but obviously just a 23 year old. Bad judgement makes the situation worse.
Not sure how anyone living in Japan could not at least know who he is even if they don't care.
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China today is up against a US that has alienated it's allies. Next year China will be up against a US that can work with it's allies and present a united front. No void.
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YubaruToday 07:41 am JST
Folks have to realize this is just another of Trump's plans for shutting Merica' off from the rest of the world.
I rarely if ever agree with Yubaru but in this instance I believe he is correct. This is part of the "anti-immigrant anti-foreigner, anti-rest of the world approach by Trump. In 2017 he appointed Cissna as Director of USCIS, and Japanese restaurants in NYC became unable to obtain working visas for Japanese sushi chefs. Cissna is known to be an "immigrant hater" and USCIS has done everything possible to stop immigration into the US. from everywhere.
This is a prime example of the Trump policy of being unable to differentiate between allies and adversaries. Which causes problems like this article at best, and wrecks our strategic defense posture (NATO) at worst.
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MarkToday 12:20 pm JST
Chinese press Okinawa has been called Japanese occupied Chinese territory
i dont know where you get this kind of info, but it is NOT TRUE. Nobody in China have any interest in Okinawa...it is super self-made imagination. Amazing but not true. I suggest you to read more history and get the real info.
I'm afraid it's true. I suggest you read more history and get the real info.
"the group that gathered at Renmin University was focused on a more enticing prize — Japan’s southernmost island chain, which includes the strategic linchpin of Okinawa, home to 1.3 million Japanese citizens, not to mention 27,000 American troops.
The Chinese government itself has not asserted a claim to Okinawa or the other isles in the Ryukyu chain. But the seminar last month, which included state researchers and retired officers from the senior ranks of the People’s Liberation Army, was the latest act in what seems to be a semiofficial campaign in China to question Japanese rule of the islands.
A magazine affiliated with the Chinese Foreign Ministry published a four-page spread on the issue in March. People’s Daily, the Communist Party’s official newspaper, weighed in next with an op-ed by two scholars at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. Two more pieces appeared in Global Times, another state newspaper.
And a week before the seminar, a hawkish Chinese military official argued that the Japanese did not have sovereignty over the Ryukyu Islands because its inhabitants paid tribute to Chinese emperors hundreds of years before they started doing so to Japan.
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Joe BlowToday 10:09 am JST
Biden will side with China, he's the much worse choice for Japan.
This is October of 2020. No American of any political party will "side with China".
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I'd rather have an old President who takes naps but trusts his experts and has actual plans rather than the megalomaniac idiot who has destroyed the country over the last near 4 years.
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The Atomic bombings are memorialized by not just Japan but the entire world because of their significance the first (and hopefully last) use of nuclear weapons in war. The Atomic bombings are arguably war crimes in their own right and the civilians were indeed "victims" as are civilians in any war in any country. Nobody is attempting to "absolve" the actions of the Imperial Japanese Military in WWII, a concept exclusive to chronic J-haters. Today Japan is allied with it's former WWII adversaries against the fascist Chinese threat of the 21st century. And being under the US Nuclear Umbrella, as are other Pacific allies like Australia and South Korea, Japan obviously can not denounce the only thing that protects it from the nuclear weapons of it's 3 very close neighbors, North Korea, China and Russia. This is not hypocrisy, it is common sense.
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China can kiss the Senkakus off goodbye.
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Japan has nothing to worry about. Trade issues will be as they always have been, give a little, take a litte. Greater diplomatic and strategic relations under the new US Administration will overshadow trade issues.
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I for one am going to sleep soundly now knowing that Honduras won't be going nuclear.
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Trump will be out very shortly. Since WWII ended the US has built alliances because the world knew they were good for their word. Trump is the first president since then who has damaged our relationships. So let's forget about Trump, he does not represent America going forward.
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MickeliciousToday 04:13 pm JST
Japan, time to grow a pair and sign the Treaty.
Japan is protected by the U.S. nuclear umbrella.
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Let me know when countries like North Korea and Iran sign up.
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GoodlucktoyouToday 09:52 am JST
Both parties are the same. Exploit the colonies by bullying and fear.
You mean the way your country is treating Taiwan?
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Under a Biden administration US relations with both European and Asian allies will improve. The "pivot to Asia" started under Obama, not Trump.
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Asiaman7Today 07:57 am JST
The Japanese government unfortunately continues to use this nearly 40-year-old offense to generate support for costly military expansion, as reported just yesterday.
Defense ministry officials are considering ... putting Aegis missiles on ... naval vessels.
No, that is in response to NK's missiles. Not the abductees.
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Why can't Trump do as much for the United States as he has done for Israel?
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Agree,,,,perfect match of photo and headline. What a moron. And what morons cheering him on. In just short of 4 years not only did he fail to MAGA, he's broken it. The next several administrations will have to struggle to repair what he has done to the country.
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