Many Japanese remain skeptical about the possibility of holding even a scaled-down Games safely during a pandemic.
I can think of a couple of reasons why I’m sceptical about the Olympics happening
I have no idea when I can get vaccinatedWe already know that our medical system struggles when there is an increase in infections. In some areas it get to the point of breaking down.
We will not know if infections will increase due to the games, until after they have finished. By which time the athletes, officials and IOC will be back home. Maybe taking home a little more than they leaving gift of condoms.
Oh another reason, summer Bon holiday with people travelling back to home towns.
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This issue feels like a distraction to grab the headlines. I’m sure people would be prepared when they travel.
Now they are allowing alcohol into the village, it could be party time. So hopefully they will rethink and make condoms available.
I knew someone who competed in the Olympics, the stories they came back with……..
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Hoping that was a mock up room that’s on the ground floor and next to the pathway.
I remember when they first showed the cardboard beds, the British team commented that they would be using the beds from one of there sponsors.
like previous comments, I hope there is AIr Con.
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So discussion have taken place, meetings held, decisions made and the the medical advisers consolidated. SOE lifted.
I really hope that we do not end up with a dramatic increase in infections before, during or after the Olympics. I also hope that there is a plan in place to deal with it if it happens. One can hope.
If we end up with a Super Spreader event, this will not just be a problem in a Japan, it could end up being a world problem.
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Tokyo is one of the biggest cities in the world, yet they cannot get people through the doors. Has anyone looked into why that is , or would that mean too many meetings?
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However, a former Olympian turned public health expert said she believed the Games can be pulled off with an acceptable level of risk.
I hate to imagine that there was a meeting where they discussed what was “an acceptable level of risk”
At the end of the day no one know what will happen during or after the games. It is just the wrong time to bring people from all around the world to Japan. It is not just going to effect around Tokyo and Sapporo. Teams are going to be in training camps all over Japan over the coming weeks.
Infections have gone down during SOE, then it’s lifted and the infections increase. What is the plan if that happens again? The medical system will struggle yet again right on the eve of the games. Only this time round we already have at least 2 variants in the mix.
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They are also largely confined to a "bubble" environment, consisting of hotel and practice facilities, to minimise contact with people.
Isn’t the idea of a Bubble to stay inside it?
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"However, if you go and look at the very strict controls the Japanese organizers and IOC have put in place, they have practically completely cut off any direct connection between international visitors and Japanese people," he told AFP in a phone interview. "There is the bubble, most foreigners will be vaccinated before traveling, they are tested twice before they fly out and tested every day in Japan
I find it hard to believe that all international visitors for the Olympics are going to be in a bubble. Or for that matter tested everyday, maybe the athletes will get tested daily.
You have to wonder if these “experts” really understand the medical and vaccination situation here.
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A couple of days ago received my invitation for my annual health check. Surly things like this can be delayed for 6 months or so and give vaccine jabs instead.
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Asked what the organizers would do if there was an explosive spread of infections, Endo was non-committal
This is why the Olympics need to be delayed again. We cannot afford to risk flooding our health care system with yet another increase in infections. It is not coping well now.
If we had been able to vaccinate a high percentage of the population this would not be such a big issue.
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MotMotMotToday 08:29 am JST
These are things they should have figured out 6 months ago.
My sister works on the admin side of a local health centre in the UK. They started thinking, considering and planning last summer. Then they used the plan to build a drive through vaccine centre in the car park. This was ready to use for the flu jabs, which allowed them to iron out the problems. She used to think I was joking when I explained what is happen here.
We need better here and quickly now it could become a free for all when we all receive our vaccine tickets at the same time. More people here need to be allowed to think out of the box to get the more staff and facilities up and running. Personally I have no problem with people like vets being used.
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We live in a small town well away from the big cities. My mother-in-law in her 80’s finally yesterday found a clinic locally were she can get a jab. She is on the list and told her the 1st jab could be mid July, hopefully.
To me, it almost sounds like you have problems getting the vaccine in local clinics if you have been healthy and not needed to visit them recently. This may well be because a number of the local clinics and small hospitals only have 1 or 2 doctors.
Maybe to help speed up the vaccine process, the pharmacist checks the patients health form before the nurse gives the vaccine. After all, all the clinics and hospitals have a pharmacy in the car park or across the road linked to them.
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Shouldn’t we be using the SDF medical staff in places like Osaka helping to support the general medical system. It horrified me the other evening when a news report suggested having a heart attack is no guarantee to get into a hospital.
Also the staff dealing with Covid need all the support we as a country can provide. It must be soul destroying for them hearing about all the medical staff being diverted to the Olympics.
Hopefully there is also a plan for a major natural disaster. We will need all the help the SDF can give at that time.
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I have thought for a long time now, that the best money Japan can spend now, is delaying the Olympics again. No one knows what will happen if the Olympics go ahead, but one thing is certain. If we have a spike in infections because of it, the IOC will be long gone, after they got what they wanted.
The government need to put all it time and effort into controlling this virus and getting us vaccinated. After all, other counties are now showing the effect getting jabs in arms is having to there healthcare systems and economies. We are in danger of being left behind as the world economy recovers.
We live out in the sticks and in our area getting 10 infections a day is crippling our hospitals. It is difficult to get an appointment for a vaccine, as it appears at the moment we are getting so few doses. Also so few clinic’s are offering it to non patients.
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You would of thought the the ioc would have turned up for the Tokyo meeting. This would have given them a change to experience The Bubble by staying at the Olympics Village.
The retired nurses are going to be spread thin. Every other day there is talk about them helping with the much needed vaccination effort.
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@Tokyo-Engr is spot on, you have to be living here to know what things are really like. The outside world is always hearing about how low infections and deaths have been. Japan is seen as having weathered the storm well. A few reports in overseas media are starting to highlight some of the problems, but it is a splash in the bottom of the pot.
The medical system is not coping well in a number of places now. People are having to stay at home when they should be in hospital and some have died at home. Ambulances pick up people but then have to find a hospital to take them, this can take hours or all day.
The other big fear hear about getting sick, there is not a welfare system like other countries. You can get a loan, but you do not know if or when you can pay it off. Or you are expected to go around your family first to get support.
The risk for the Japanese people is great and the slow vaccine rollout is not helping. My mother in law is struggling to find somewhere locally that is offering the jab. There are 2 private hospital offering the jab, but only to there current patients. ( town pop over 20,000) So she is trying to get the phone answered in the city next door.
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My 80+ mother-in-law is beginning to think she will still be hanging on the phone trying to get an appointment at the end of July.
Something needs to change very quickly
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I wonder how many people outside of Japan, be they the general public or sports associations understand most of us are not being vaccinated yet. The risk to Japan’s residents is huge.
We are seeing a higher percentage of infections due to the variants. This is leading to infections spreading quicker and leading to more serious hospitalization. There is very little slack left in the medical system. With all the best will in the world, now is just the wrong time for these two events. I understand this is devastating for all people involved in the organisation and taking part.
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At the end of the day we are running out of medical resources to look after ourselves. How and why should we be freeing up staff and medical facilities for a sports event. I don’t understand why athletes are more important than people who cannot work or have lost there business. We need to be putting all our resources into protecting the population, not being distracted by the Olympics and its aftermath.
The most important thing for my family is keeping one step head of the virus. At the end of the day we do not know when we will get the vaccine.
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Maybe the IOC need to understand why there is a negative public opinion. We have a medical system that is failing in some areas and struggling in a lot more. We live in a prefecture that is having a growing number of infections with a high percentage of the variants. However our numbers are still low compared to some. Yet our health system is already being reported at Stage 4.
The athletes maybe vaccinated, but there is all the other people who will be involved from overseas and from all around Japan. It could become a melting pot of variants that get spread around Japan and the world.
frjdrankinToday 08:24 am JST
The IOC seems to be the only group excited about the games.
This is a very valid point, just look back a couple of years and the build up and enthusiasm for the Rugby World Cup. That same enthusiasm is missing now.
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So they could be getting the vaccine before all the medical staff get there jabs. Then before the elderly and people with pre-existing conditions. This event needs to be delayed and they take there turn with the rest of us.
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Now anyone saying it is not that simple, well yes it is. I am a former paramedic and it takes far more skill to place an IV than give an intramuscular vaccine and I never saw anyone that couldn't learn to put in an IV within a few hours training at most.
My wife is a nurse here and she can draw blood, place an IV but has only worked in one hospital where she was able to give an injection. She is now a visitor nurse and if a patient needs an injection at home, she has to arrange for a doctor to visit.
Let more nurse’s vaccinate and the process could be a lot quicker and wide spread.
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I like to believe that a sports organisation does not have the power to override the government of Japan or any other country.
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I cannot make my mind up if the IOC and sports bodies around the world understand the medical situation here. Or is it just being put to one side out of the way.
Only yesterday Sapporo issued a Medical Emergency Declaration and Osaka sounds like it is a nightmare. Our medical system is fighting hard against Covid, but it does not take many days of increased infection to overwhelm the system. We need to protect ourselves until we have the chance to be vaccinated. It really worries me we are going to really suffer with a new mix of variants, all for a sporting event.
I will add, I love sport and the Olympics gives a chance to see sports that are not often showed on TV. Now is the wrong time for this event. I never understood why it was not delayed until 2024.
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A health ministry official has called on people not to rely too heavily on the results from tests conducted when they entered the country, as it is possible to get a false negative result during an incubation period.
"We want people to properly see through their quarantine," the official said.
Forgive me if I have misunderstood. Health Ministry official has said not to rely heavily on the airport test. Yet people involved in the Olympics will be given an airport test and not be required to quarantine. Then these people could be scattered around Japan for training camps before they are allowed in the Olympics village.
So is this one of the “enhanced measures” we keep hearing about?
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My wife will get her first jab on Friday, as she is a home visit nurse. She has also been told to prepare to just be visiting Covid patients in there homes. While doing this they want them to go in a bubble and live in a hotel.
I for one cannot understand were all these spare medical personnel are coming from.
The top priority needs to be caring for all the population first, but I’m not holding my breath on that one.
The Olympics should have been delayed again, by doing this no one is Loosing Face. After all if there is a spike of infection after the event, we will be the one left to deal with it.
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My wife is a nurse and she spends all day visiting patients that are house bound. The patients have been asked to notify the nurses if they have had contact with people outside the Prefecture. If they have, the nurses have to get dressed in head to toe PPE on the patients doorstep. Then for 10 days after the patients last contact with the person from outside the Prefecture. This is all part of the job.
The real worry is the speed at which the medical staff are being vaccinated. As of last night just over 900,000 had received the 1st shot. The rate of 1st jabs is decreasing as they start the 2nd. How long before the 4 to 5 million medical staff get there shot?
These are the people we expect to look after us if we become sick and not just with Covid. At this time my wife has only received info on the side effects, no idea when she will get the shot.
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My view is, not many of us residents will be anywhere near getting the vaccine by July. Yes the elderly start in April, but so far our Prefecture has only been allocated 1000 doses so far.
I fear if the Olympics are not delayed, we could end up with a legacy of a Tokyo mutation of Covid. I hope I’m wrong.
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Waiting lists will be a good idea, if use to ensure all spare vaccines are used. This is how my mother received her first dose. She was a month away from her 80th birthday and got a call late afternoon.
I cannot understand how we can start travelling again without some form of vaccine passport. Testing people every time they reach an airport or port surely will not work for ever.
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I use on a day to day basic my Debit Card issued in the UK. I have never had it refused and at a few shops I can even use it contactless. We Are not in a big city but out in the sticks. So the tech is already out there.
i get totally confused over which digital payment system to use which will cover most of my spending. Also which is one is safe.
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