Himajin-That was my point exactly. Thank you for a more concise way of putting the truth.
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Tamarama- I commend you for calling evil evil, but I must say I see an about face when you start with it's is anyone elses fault. When you say,"I am not trying to say the west is solely to blame" you are inferring the "west" along with others are to blame, but not Islam. The fact is Islam from its foundation was a bloody people and they did "just shoot up from nowhere." Islam tried to conquer the world long before America came onto the seen. Terrorist tactics came along and were used by Islamist long before the birth of America. In fact America is a relatively new nation compared to the many others. Have we meddled in the world? yes! Does that have anything to do with islamic terrorist? absolutely not. That is like saying a criminal who has been a criminal for centuries will be able to blame his behaviour on some future person. What land is there that Islamic people live on that they did not occupy by killing and forcing into their religion. One can say that even America entered North America and killed the natives, but it was a short period and today those natives are free and can worship anyway they want to. I dare you or any muslim in a muslim country to convert to Christianity or spread the Christian Bible around! They talk about peace and tolerance yet this is not an idea they practice. We in America do meddle around in the world, but guess what we keep the Islamic terrorist from taking over the world. It is America that does this not Islam. It is America that is feeding the hungry in the world. It is America feeding and sending doctors to help the poor of the world, many of them Muslim! Where are all the Muslim missionaries? Why do they talk tolerance and then murder those who disagree with their religion?
You are correct about university studies being different around the world. But they do agree on the major parts of history as it relates to other nations. Where you get disagreements is where history is watered down by a country that hides its past. I can assure you where I went to college in the southern United States they did not water it down. We have made mistakes in the past but our heart is good and we make up for it when we can. Just like in Japan.. When we fought the Japanese we did not just turn and abandon them after the war. We stayed and today I feel like they are just like one of the states in the United States. I think most of America feels this way. If you attack Japan it is an attack on America! But notice that after we fought them we do not require them to become Christian. In fact most are not. When Islamist attacked nations its sole purpose was to force them to embrace Islam or die. And so it is to this day when Islam becomes the dominant power in any part of the world.
So I disagree with you that terrorism is complicated, layered, and lightyears beyond a simple equation. I believe you can look at their past and predict the future. Don't listen to what they preach but what they do and have done. Actions speak louder than words. Their history and present conduct is there for all of the world to see. There is really no reason to take anyones word for what kind of tree it is when we have fruits from the tree.
I am glad to hear you condemn the violence however and you should know many of us in America did not agree with the Iraq war. It was a colossal mistake and created a vacuum for terrorist, but not the terrorist themselves. Now I feel like it is our problem and we need to put a stop to it. Regardless though Japan did not attack Iraq and there is no excuse for killing Japanese citizens. I gave you a thumbs up though as I believe you are an honest person and have actually contributed to helping the problem of terrorism.
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Jason-Well put my brother! You have spoken the truth and some may not like it but it is still the truth.
Shaolin74-You are right. I am not sure where some get their education at but they need to ask for their money back. As an American I am proud to call Englanders my brothers. I am also proud of our relations with Japan even though we fought a world war with Japan. That was then and today is today. An attack on Japan is an attack on America! I feel as much anger at the cowardly killing of the Japanese men as I did when it was an American. We need to step up and end this by using the might of the free world.
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Tamarama-You seem to be excusing or blaming the brutal behaviour of these people on the West. You do realize the West was not the West while they were rising up and brutally murdering other peoples and taking their land right? They have a very bloody past and unfortunately a very bloody today. After studying history in college I find it shocking that you make claims that the West is to blame. It's always someone elses fault right?
I am saddened also that people are venting at Abe. This cowardly act of murder was not Abe's fault. The Japanese people have a very high honor code they live by and I could not imagine him contributing in any way or being anything other than distraught; however, I do not follow politics in Japan so maybe the anger at him is coming from some other area and latching onto this current tragedy.
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My apologies to all the board for posting to raf. I will not respond to him again. This is not about he or I, it is about innocent Japanese civilians being murdered and our provocative post back and forth do nothing to help the situation at hand. I am sorry. I am certain the Japanese people will respond appropriately at the right time.
I hope the families and friends have many people with them in this hard and heartbreaking time.
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Jefflee-Drone attacks do not work alone. Never have and never will. Also it is true a lot of times innocent people are killed. Had we not invaded Iraq none of this would probably be going on, but it is what it is. We and every free nation have an obligation to defend against terrorist. They should be eradicated off the face of the earth. Also to try and say war hawk conservatives are less about fighting ISIS is just ignorant. We never should have invaded Iraq, but we did. That is no longer the point. The point is a hornets nest has been opened up and now it needs to be closed by any means necessary. The reason terrorist are so active are because there are those like raf that feel sorry for them, and do not want to hurt their feelings. This does not work. We need to take the gloves off and get rid of them. War is hell but sometimes it is necessary!
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ndwariga-I do not believe the Japanese people no longer have the will. The cost of war is alive and well in the minds and hearts of the Japanese people. I just think they are like America was before WW2, a sleeping giant.
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My heart goes out to Japan. As an American we are use to seeing our people beheaded, and worse our leaders doing nothing. My hope and my prayer is that the Japanese people will not let this go unchecked. May Japan rain down terror on the terrorist. May a million lives be taken for one Japanese life. A full invasion and extermination of the cockroaches is the only way to deal with terrorist. Anything short is just politics. The question is now, will Japan rise up and defend itself, or become like we have in the US, and get use to a lot of talk by our leaders with little action? Our hearts ache with your hearts.
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